EPTYou just write Yes/No (and sometimes "no, but new alternate regulation") or fill in the name(s) of the people you want to vote for.
Then you send it back or drop it on voting/electionday.
Registration? For what exactly?
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Velr
Switzerland10886 Posts
You just write Yes/No (and sometimes "no, but new alternate regulation") or fill in the name(s) of the people you want to vote for. Then you send it back or drop it on voting/electionday. Registration? For what exactly? | ||
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On October 30 2014 03:00 xDaunt wrote: It shouldn't be that hard to create and enforce a fairly fraud-proof voting system that also doesn't create any undo barriers to voting. If nothing else, it will make people finally shut up on the issue. We could use biometric identification if people weren't so paranoid. | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On October 30 2014 05:10 Velr wrote: In Switzerland each person over 18 just gets a letter. You just write Yes/No (and sometimes "no, but new alternate regulation") or fill in the name(s) of the people you want to vote for. Then you send it back or drop it on voting/electionday. Registration? For what exactly? There are different voter groups who vote on different elections. For example, as someone who lives in Massachusetts I can't vote for who is the Governor of Texas. Since people tend to move around a lot, you have to have some system in place to keep track of who votes where and for what. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11843 Posts
On October 30 2014 05:10 Velr wrote: In Switzerland each person over 18 just gets a letter. You just write Yes/No (and sometimes "no, but new alternate regulation") or fill in the name(s) of the people you want to vote for. Then you send it back or drop it on voting/electionday. Registration? For what exactly? Well, you would need to be registered somewhere if they send you a letter, otherwise how would they know who to send the letter to. This is similar to how it works in germany, except you don't get the votethingy to send back right away, you have to personally vote at the voting place that is mentioned in the letter you get, which is usually pretty close to where you live. But for this to work, it needs to be registered where people live, and i am not sure america actually does that, considering they don't really have federal identification documents either. So i guess this is once again a problem with some weird american legacy system. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10886 Posts
We got communal, cantonal/state and countrywide elections/votes all the time. Too hard? | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23965 Posts
On October 30 2014 04:46 Introvert wrote: But statistically it doesn't appear to make it any harder to vote. And I'm all for making sure things are as clean as can be. If we should have GMO labels just because, then let's do voter id just because. Edit: I dont think "just because" is a good reason, to be clear. Increased turnout doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't harder to vote. Increased motivation (an unintended consequence) can result in increased turnout despite an increase to the number of barriers and altogether new ones (think the elderly people who have voted for decades and were told they no longer could without jumping some new hurdles). In Texas, for example, challengers to the law cited an African-American grandmother who could not afford the $25 to purchase her birth certificate to get an ID, and an elderly African-American veteran and longtime voter who was turned away at the polls in 2013 despite having three types of ID, because none qualified under the new law. And new research from the Government Accountability Office, an independent agency that prepares reports for members of Congress, suggests that voter ID laws are having an impact at the polls. Turnout dropped among both young people and African-Americans in Kansas and Tennessee after new voter ID requirements took effect in 2012, the study found. Source If you buy any of the reasons not to label GMO's than this and countless other reports have to stand as reason to stop these voter id laws... There is case after case of who these laws are hurting. Besides preventing legitimate voters from voting (extremely bad) , and riling the bases, what have these new laws accomplished? | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On October 30 2014 05:23 Velr wrote: If you move you have to tell your new commune that you live in it now. We got communal, cantonal/state and countrywide elections/votes all the time. Too hard? Right. Registering to vote in the US is that "telling your new state you live in it now." It's really simple to do, but it's a procedural step and that catches people. We also have basically no system of national identification. SSN is theoretically what we have, but it's not really a full system. The government really doesn't have an easy-access database of all citizens and their residency. States have voter rolls, and that's about it. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10886 Posts
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bookwyrm
United States722 Posts
Theres still ZIRP of course. le roi est mort vive le roi. And since the economy is still dysfunctional and the next collapse is just around the corner, that means more 'unconventional' policy just around the corner. Well never have normal monetary policy again in the foreseeable future because boomersl kleptocrats need to have their assets inflated | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On October 30 2014 05:57 Velr wrote: How do you get your taxbill then? From employers for income tax. If you need a form for something else, like investment accounts, you get it specifically from that institution. When you get a new job you get to fill out all of that wonderful tax documentation so they know where to find you. | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On October 30 2014 05:57 Velr wrote: How do you get your taxbill then? You don't. You file your taxes i.e. get the forms, fill them out, calculate what you owe / are owed, and send it in. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10886 Posts
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On October 30 2014 06:02 JonnyBNoHo wrote: You don't. You file your taxes i.e. get the forms, fill them out, calculate what you owe / are owed, and send it in. Right, which is insane. US tax code, for reference, is 5 times the length of the Bible. | ||
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Introvert
United States4955 Posts
A) there are obviously things that go wrong, and the guy will get his due. B)With respect to the turnout question for those states, I'm not sure what conclusion can be drawn since it didn't affect other subgroups, just those two. And that's only in two states. If that's the whole of the opposition, then it seems kind of weak. The general trend is pretty clear. 5 studies found no reduction, 4 found some, and one an increase. And I know in some states it has gone up. | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On October 30 2014 06:07 Velr wrote: yeah, but how do you get the forms ^^. I mean, the institution needs to have your adress for that? They don't send them to you, you go get them yourself. You can go to the IRS's website, find them hanging around public buildings, buy tax software, etc. On October 30 2014 06:10 Yoav wrote: Right, which is insane. US tax code, for reference, is 5 times the length of the Bible. Yeah it sucks, most people can get away with a 1040EZ though  | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6274 Posts
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Wolfstan
Canada605 Posts
The problems with the tax codes are that the code is comprised of over 200 years of election promises, and loopholes with the goal of very targeted applications of breaks and credits. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
The Federal Reserve confirmed Wednesday that it intends to scrap its bond-buying program at the end of the month — an indication that the central bank is confident that the U.S. economy is on the right trajectory. In its monthly statement, the Fed also signaled that it would keep its benchmark interest rate at a record low. The move is aimed at supporting a U.S. job market that is improving but still not fully fit and helping lift inflation from unusually low levels. The rate would remain close to zero "for a considerable time," the central bank said in its statement. Most economists predict that the Fed won't raise the benchmark, which is used to calculate many consumer and business loans, before mid-2015. The Fed displayed a cautious optimism regarding job growth at the end of the two-day policy meeting. The statement dropped a previous reference to "significant" in referring to an "underutilization" of available workers. Source | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23965 Posts
On October 30 2014 06:11 Introvert wrote: Right now i can only skim, but A) there are obviously things that go wrong, and the guy will get his due. B)With respect to the turnout question for those states, I'm not sure what conclusion can be drawn since it didn't affect other subgroups, just those two. And that's only in two states. If that's the whole of the opposition, then it seems kind of weak. The general trend is pretty clear. 5 studies found no reduction, 4 found some, and one an increase. And I know in some states it has gone up. So best case scenario they do nothing, worst case they disenfranchise millions. Seems pretty obvious that they should be abandoned unless the sole objectives are the motives I mentioned. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On October 30 2014 05:23 Velr wrote: If you move you have to tell your new commune that you live in it now. We got communal, cantonal/state and countrywide elections/votes all the time. Too hard? communes??! burn the communist | ||
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