EPTAnd dozens of other things.
I think you're going to be very surprised when Mueller shows his hand. This is not conspiracy theory bullshit anymore.
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
And dozens of other things. I think you're going to be very surprised when Mueller shows his hand. This is not conspiracy theory bullshit anymore. | ||
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Mercy13
United States718 Posts
Did everyone forget that Tillerson was alleged to have called Trump "a fucking moron" a bit ago? | ||
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Sermokala
United States14211 Posts
On March 14 2018 10:15 micronesia wrote: That's a bit misleading due to the fact that the remaining votes are expected to tilt significantly more red than the votes already counted. However, that brings us to the discussion a few months ago about whether or not these real-time election analyses tools are ridiculous. They're pretty worthless because their value requires a ton more information that never gets passed on in real time. You'd need to relate the results from the last election in comparison and that never fits in a headline. I'm fairly certain that the area was a 20 point red advantage in the last election or at least near that number. That its a huge swing is noteworthy but the polls still had it in the margin of error leading up to today with the edge among good polls to be lamb leaning. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On March 14 2018 10:43 hunts wrote: GH how can you possibly accuse someone else of believing in conspiracy theories without your face turning bright red with shame? Because his aren't mainstream. | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
Part of me can't help but to feel so much schadenfreude over Americans freaking the eff out over the chickens finally coming home to roost. Of course then I remember that a more powerful and assertive Russia under the current regime means only bad things for my personal safety and the safety of those I care about, and then I get sad. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14211 Posts
Whats the difference between mainstream conspiracy theories and non mainstream conspiracy theories? I know hes a 9/11 truther and belives the CIA runs the drug cartels but those seem pretty mainstream for conspiracy people. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24385 Posts
On March 14 2018 10:37 Ayaz2810 wrote: You're dodging. No sanctions. Documented attempts to lift sanctions on day one. No critical words for Putin for interfering. No critical words for the attack on the U.S. military by Russian troops. Alfa Bank and Trump Tower. Meetings to try and set up a business in Moscow AFTER declaring he has no business in Russia. Trump junior stating that a lot of their money comes from Russia. Fawning over Putin at every turn. An-hour long meeting with Putin at the G20 with no chaperone. Leaking of intel to Russians in the oval office. The documented efforts of Russia to "okay" any pick for SoS. Tillerson being chosen as SoS. Tillerson being fired less than 24 hours after being critical of Russia. And dozens of other things. I think you're going to be very surprised when Mueller shows his hand. This is not conspiracy theory bullshit anymore. I'm not dodging, I'm pointing out that you guys tend to just dismiss anything that doesn't fit your narrative like the several things Trump has done and is still doing that aren't in Russia's interest. Nothing you've said can't be explained by Trump and co. selfishly and stupidly serving themselves, and in no way requires some mastermind in the Kremlin. In my opinion, remarkable incompetence and brazen greed does a much better job of explaining it than thinking Trump is a remote controlled Russian road runner and Mueller/Democrats are the Coyote. What do you think is going to happen when "Mueller shows his hand"? It's definitely a conspiracy theory, whether it's bullshit or not is something I'm presuming will be determined for you by whatever Trump is or isn't convicted of. Unless the courts are going to be doing the bidding of the Russians by then too of course. | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On March 14 2018 10:46 Sermokala wrote: Whats the difference between mainstream conspiracy theories and non mainstream conspiracy theories? I know hes a 9/11 truther and belives the CIA runs the drug cartels but those seem pretty mainstream for conspiracy people. If that's true, then GH and I have something in common re: 9/11. Kind of shocked to be honest. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On March 14 2018 10:46 Sermokala wrote: Whats the difference between mainstream conspiracy theories and non mainstream conspiracy theories? I know hes a 9/11 truther and belives the CIA runs the drug cartels but those seem pretty mainstream for conspiracy people. It's not about the conspiracy, it's about seeing through the lies that the sheeple are being fed and being smarter than them. | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On March 14 2018 10:50 WolfintheSheep wrote: It's not about the conspiracy, it's about seeing through the lies that the sheeple are being fed and being smarter than them. You literally sound like my dad haha. He refuses to watch the news anymore, and doesn't follow national politics at all. He is of the opinion that anyone who thinks Trump is in bed with Russia are just "sheeple" (he actually said that word). It's remarkable how so many people can deny and yet do so little research on the subject. It's like contending that the sky isn't blue without ever looking out the damn window. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24385 Posts
On March 14 2018 10:46 Sermokala wrote: Whats the difference between mainstream conspiracy theories and non mainstream conspiracy theories? I know hes a 9/11 truther and belives the CIA runs the drug cartels but those seem pretty mainstream for conspiracy people. I can't talk about why the first accusation is preposterous but I'm happy to have any of the people who have said this and I already asked or anyone who still thinks this is true to actually ask (in PM) and see if they know what they think they know about my position and how sure they are of theirs. To date, no one has. Every single person immediately backed off when confronted with what my actual contention is. As to the second one it was mostly a joke, but you're right that most people are pretty familiar with the roles the CIA, DEA, and ATF play in the drug trade, and if they want to claim it's "fighting drug consumption/distribution" they have to own the catastrophic failure it has been (and explain away the creators of the drug war saying it was to suppress political opposition and deprive people their constitutional rights) if they think that's better than admitting it's a racket. As for hunts, lol. If it were true I'd imagine I'd do it much the same way you're able to post the way you do. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
98% reporting, Lamb in the lead by .4% Pretty massive swing towards Democrats. | ||
micronesia
United States24805 Posts
The result would probably be the same at this point. edit: oh it was CNN with 64 of the most outrageous lies of the speech | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
People who watch those rallies are either not voting for Trump or are the sort of people who get are excited that the US is going to land on Mars, never mind the huge logistical and political problems that sort of thing brings to the table. | ||
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Introvert
United States5044 Posts
I hope these special elections are the odd sign out. The GOP has the money, but can they actually hold out? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24385 Posts
On March 14 2018 12:11 Introvert wrote: I am very curious to see how these special elections translate to general elections. The generic ballot is still within reason for Republicans but very obviously Democrats want to vote more than Republicans. Combine that with what should be otherwise good conditions (good economy, no wars) we'll have a clash of unpopular president vs. good economy. I hope these special elections are the odd sign out. The GOP has the money, but can they actually hold out? I wouldn't read too much into turn out in these special elections. What's often not emphasized in the reporting on these races is why they are special elections and not incumbent elections. I think 3 out of the last 4 had the previous Republican (the one being replaced) either retire or kill themselves out of shame and public embarrassment. Hardly the type of thing that motivates Republicans to come out for a special election. This one has it's own flare making it especially inconsequential in comparison to the attention it will get if the Dem wins being that their district won't exist next election. | ||
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