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Doodsmack
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Mohdoo
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
Questioning the alliance to our closest ally. But let's not forget Putin's perspective on the matter. Surely he deserves benefit of the doubt. It is actually very analogous to deny Trump's subversion to Russia (this goes beyond favoritism), to denying Putin's tyrannical behaviors, at this point. They both carry a thin-veil of deniability against a thousand predictable, ongoing coincidences. So it's kind of... comical to do so. Before the Trump-era, it was rather unanimously agreed upon that Putin was a pretty wanton criminal. Now... not so unanimous. I blame Hillary. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On March 14 2018 22:50 Danglars wrote: Because the right wing needs a story as stupid to match the “despite all the evidence, Tillerson was fired because Trump-Russia.” It’s kind of a Vince foster for the new millennium. weren't you one of the ones screaming about how we need to investigate the seth rich death with the same fervor we did Ben Ghazi's death? | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
One day before Tillerson's firing they were planning on (finally) hiring some actual personnel. Regardless of Tillerson's disastrous service, his firing puts a hiatus on things like "hiring initiatives". The State Department will remain gutted for the near future. And it further proves that Tillerson's firing was not planned with anyone in the entire State Department. Just spur of the moment, and what a perfectly dubious moment. Coincidence that it happened when it did. Although no logical reason has even been given by the White House, so I'm not sure what it is I'm even pretending to deny. What changed just before Tillerson's firing? He takes a new line on Russia and plans to hire people? I guess that's why he was fired! Unlike someone like Betsy DeVos, who has just been the definition of competency and professionalism as of late. | ||
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Plansix
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Plansix
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 14 2018 23:49 hunts wrote: weren't you one of the ones screaming about how we need to investigate the seth rich death with the same fervor we did Ben Ghazi's death? Lol. Maybe at least search for content “Seth rich” under username “Danglars” before marching out your presuppositions. If I’d actually done half the things I was accused of doing here, I’d be in a pretty sorry state, let me tell you! My favorite recently was when someone thought I was mr “y’all on the left.” | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 15 2018 01:08 Plansix wrote: https://twitter.com/DaviSusan/status/973949711941079041 Senate Democrats are lining up in opposition. So it’s like every nomination and appointment since the inauguration? lol. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 15 2018 01:40 Danglars wrote: Senate Democrats are lining up in opposition. So it’s like every nomination and appointment since the inauguration? lol. You really didn’t think very hard about this post before you wrote it, did you? You sure you want stand by that assertion? | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On March 15 2018 01:40 Danglars wrote: Senate Democrats are lining up in opposition. So it’s like every nomination and appointment since the inauguration? lol. Who's the newest SCOTUS appointee again? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Was there every a vote on Merrick Garland? Did the Republicans have to line up to oppose that nomination or did the leadership just block the vote from taking place at all? | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On March 15 2018 02:00 Plansix wrote: Was there every a vote on Merrick Garland? Did the Republicans have to line up to oppose that nomination or did the leadership just block the vote from taking place at all? leadership blocked the vote from taking place; iirc they even blocked the hearings where the senate can talk/listen to the nominee, no tsure on that though. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 15 2018 02:07 zlefin wrote: leadership blocked the vote from taking place; iirc they even blocked the hearings where the senate can talk/listen to the nominee, no tsure on that though. It was a rhetorical question. The leadership put that entire process on hold until after the election in one of the more cynical political maneuvers in the last 20 years. One of the biggest problem the Republican congress is the leadership in both chambers. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23515 Posts
On March 15 2018 01:27 Plansix wrote: Doubt it. Schumer likely knows that more than a couple Republicans are going to object to both of them. Few Democrats are going to want to be the vote that seals the deal. So why put on a front facing fight when the Republicans are already going to do that for him? I think the word you're looking for is 'integrity'. I don't know what you guys are going on about anyway, these two are going to get confirmed, Pompeo already did for the CIA with bipartisan support and Haspel is supported by Obama's old CIA head. Separate but related question: Were Democrats participating in the Kremlin's master plan when they helped confirm Tillerson? Will they be when they confirm Pompeo? Or can you vote to put someone you know to be a Russian shill into power and take no responsibility in the Democratic party? | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 15 2018 01:48 Plansix wrote: You really didn’t think very hard about this post before you wrote it, did you? You sure you want stand by that assertion? Senate Democrats have been doing that for a slew of nominees, even moderate Democrats showing their true colors for all to see. You could blindly predict Senate Democrats lining up to oppose a Trump appointment and have an excellent batting average. But maybe you’re still sore about Scalia’s seat? Who knows these days. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 15 2018 02:18 Danglars wrote: Senate Democrats have been doing that for a slew of nominees, even moderate Democrats showing their true colors for all to see. You could blindly predict Senate Democrats lining up to oppose a Trump appointment and have an excellent batting average. But maybe you’re still sore about Scalia’s seat? Who knows these days. A “slew of nominees” is not “every nomination and appointment since the inauguration”, so I’ll take that as you correcting your mistake. Thank you for doing so. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 15 2018 02:20 Plansix wrote: A “slew of nominees” is not “every nomination and appointment since the inauguration”, so I’ll take that as you correcting your mistake. Thank you for doing so. The response has been so massive and so massively different than Republican Senators during Obama’s appointments to very truly be called “like every nominee and appointment.” It’s the culmination of #Resist, so own it. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23515 Posts
On March 15 2018 02:22 Danglars wrote: The response has been so massive and so massively different than Republican Senators during Obama’s appointments to very truly be called “like every nominee and appointment.” It’s the culmination of #Resist, so own it. I wish this was true. I really do. But like I pointed out, they voted to empower someone we're told here was a Russian puppet. #resist is more of a # than an action. | ||
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