EPTOn March 09 2018 18:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Interesting History lesson:
Interesting History lesson:
Does the truth hurt so much or why is nobody discussing this in a thread where everything else is getting discussed to death?
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[DUF]MethodMan
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Does the truth hurt so much or why is nobody discussing this in a thread where everything else is getting discussed to death? | ||
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Introvert
United States5065 Posts
On March 10 2018 02:55 [DUF]MethodMan wrote: Does the truth hurt so much or why is nobody discussing this in a thread where everything else is getting discussed to death? It's garbage, that's why no one is going to waste their time listening to it, much less waste time responding. It's been a popular meme in certain lefty circles. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On March 10 2018 02:55 [DUF]MethodMan wrote: Does the truth hurt so much or why is nobody discussing this in a thread where everything else is getting discussed to death? lot of stuff in this thread doesn't get discussed to death; many dry boring topics get a passing mention, maybe a comment or two, then disappear. Like all sorts of serious policy proposals. | ||
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Wulfey_LA
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On March 10 2018 03:02 Introvert wrote: On March 10 2018 02:55 [DUF]MethodMan wrote: On March 09 2018 18:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Interesting History lesson: https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/971498749301227521 Does the truth hurt so much or why is nobody discussing this in a thread where everything else is getting discussed to death? It's garbage, that's why no one is going to waste their time listening to it, much less waste time responding. It's been a popular meme in certain lefty circles. And we have our answer. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Sermokala
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Plansix
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 10 2018 03:02 Introvert wrote: It's garbage, that's why no one is going to waste their time listening to it, much less waste time responding. It's been a popular meme in certain lefty circles. Did he miss the casual dismissal of the PragerU video as propaganda a few pages ago? If you're gonna whine about your memes not getting addressed, hold your own on all memes. Past slave laws were focused on denying blacks their second amendment rights to keep and bear arms, "does the truth hurt so much?" Politics is memeing. You're all trending towards mini Trumps now. Own your new identity. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12610 Posts
On March 10 2018 03:38 Danglars wrote: Did he miss the casual dismissal of the PragerU video as propaganda a few pages ago? It wasn't a casual dismissal, it was the opposite of that. I was annoyed that other people were dismissing the PragerU video as random crap and argued that they shouldn't because it's propaganda and it shouldn't be simply dismissed. I realize that you're trying to follow a narrative but please put some effort into it. | ||
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Doodsmack
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 10 2018 03:45 Nebuchad wrote: It wasn't a casual dismissal, it was the opposite of that. I was annoyed that other people were dismissing the PragerU video as random crap and argued that they shouldn't because it's propaganda and it shouldn't be simply dismissed. I realize that you're trying to follow a narrative but please put some effort into it. I'll try to remember to add the "but one guy got annoyed, so we register his annoyance along with the point" next time. Like, when I'm responding to the guy that memes hard with "truth hurts" and "why is nobody discussing this" that clearly only likes his history in propaganda form. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12610 Posts
On March 10 2018 04:05 Danglars wrote: I'll try to remember to add the "but one guy got annoyed, so we register his annoyance along with the point" next time. Like, when I'm responding to the guy that memes hard with "truth hurts" and "why is nobody discussing this" that clearly only likes his history in propaganda form. The other guys weren't saying it's propaganda, so you were specifically talking about my post. Also the notion that when something is propaganda, people get to dismiss it, is absurd. If you genuinely believe that someone is maliciously spreading a false narrative to help their cause, that's when you need to address it the most. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 10 2018 04:12 Nebuchad wrote: The other guys weren't saying it's propaganda, so you were specifically talking about my post. Also the notion that when something is propaganda, people get to dismiss it, is absurd. If you genuinely believe that someone is maliciously spreading a false narrative to help their cause, that's when you need to address it the most. It's in keeping with similar treatments of those videos in the past. You're not the first to allege it, and frankly it's not an insightful deep read of a conservative outlet posting the facts in a conservative framing. Methodman needs some help along with the history of "random video, ignore that and listen to my facts instead" in this forum and in political discourse today. Then, he'll know to provide why this one's different, or why the past doesn't matter or is different than was perceived. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12610 Posts
On March 10 2018 04:27 Danglars wrote: It's in keeping with similar treatments of those videos in the past. You're not the first to allege it, and frankly it's not an insightful deep read of a conservative outlet posting the facts in a conservative framing. Methodman needs some help along with the history of "random video, ignore that and listen to my facts instead" in this forum and in political discourse today. Then, he'll know to provide why this one's different, or why the past doesn't matter or is different than was perceived. Do you distinguish between "posting the facts in an ideological framing" and "propaganda" and if you do, please let us know what the difference is for you. We will then be able to discuss whether PragerU is in the first category or in the second using your criteria. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 10 2018 04:31 Nebuchad wrote: Do you distinguish between "posting the facts in an ideological framing" and "propaganda" and if you do, please let us know what the difference is for you. We will then be able to discuss whether PragerU is in the first category or in the second using your criteria. Stop clowning around. I'm not looking for semantic games with you after you thought I intended to single you out. This subject is dead until the original person gets back on to post something. You're just trying to bait and troll until you find somebody dumb enough to talk about a youtube series along the lines you want to discuss it. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12610 Posts
On March 10 2018 04:41 Danglars wrote: Stop clowning around. I'm not looking for semantic games with you after you thought I intended to single you out. This subject is dead until the original person gets back on to post something. You're just trying to bait and troll until you find somebody dumb enough to talk about a youtube series along the lines you want to discuss it. Every time your beliefs are actually challenged you bow out with this type of message. Also, the difference between giving an ideological framing to facts and propaganda is semantics? | ||
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farvacola
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 10 2018 04:46 farvacola wrote: How dare you ask him to clarify with regards to a dispute pertaining to the meaning of words used! On a text-based forum no less! You have a very low regard to the meaning of dispute. I dispute this, therefore both of us better recognize that this disputation is central to our argument! Is this what your teachers focus on in law? | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12610 Posts
- The left is trying to dismiss my opinion. - Hi, I'm politically to the left of Sauron so you're talking about me, let me engage your opinion. - I repeat my opinion. - I'd like to challenge that. - You're a troll, I'm dismissing what you said. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 10 2018 05:04 Nebuchad wrote: Every conversation with Danglars ever: - The left is trying to dismiss my opinion. - Hi, I'm politically to the left of Sauron so you're talking about me, let me engage your opinion. - I repeat my opinion. - I'd like to challenge that. - You're a troll, I'm dismissing what you said. 1. Oh you singled me out 2. Oh you didn't single me out? Let's discuss the difference between propaganda and ideological framing of facts 3. Oh you don't want to do that instead? You're running from the argument! Yeah. You're reminding me to not even bother. | ||
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