EPTAlso as a side question, when is the Tot invite tourney ever going to finish? I was looking forward to sen vs draco.
Draco = best foreigner?
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tfeign
United States2980 Posts
Also as a side question, when is the Tot invite tourney ever going to finish? I was looking forward to sen vs draco. | ||
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Slipgoon
Sweden390 Posts
its cool that he has a great pvp, a quality not that common. | ||
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SixSongs
Poland1455 Posts
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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ky[Z]
China1730 Posts
For the furture big foreign tournaments, invite more Chinese players (especially super/phoenix) and we will see who's the best foreigner. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
Yeah, base your ideas on one tourney, nice. Best foreing PvZ, now thats for sure. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
;p And PJ could be thrown in there somewhere, unfortunately none of them are terrans so -.- But his PvP is great too. | ||
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Knickknack
United States1187 Posts
Even if he wasent its his style of play i like most. Learned a lot from him and theres few p players that i woudl rather watch. Too bad he doesent seem to want to post on the forums... | ||
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Wicked_Monkey
Denmark61 Posts
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NonYold
United States2814 Posts
On April 02 2006 09:56 ky[Z] wrote: lol, i doubt it. For the furture big foreign tournaments, invite more Chinese players (especially super/phoenix) and we will see who's the best foreigner. definitely not a chinaman. organizers could invite chinamen so that the players have to put up with laggy games, but at least we could show our superiority! | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3024 Posts
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
He is imo best foreign P cuz i really dont see anyone close to him. He is top foreigner too, but i cant say top3/top5 etc. Testie is best random and race picker. Mondi is best Z but sen is near ^^ Best T was Androide and i hope he will prove it on this WCG too :-] Chinese Terrans are v.good too, but most of them have some weak mu, each one other ^^ | ||
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Wicked_Monkey
Denmark61 Posts
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
On April 02 2006 10:18 CultureMisfits wrote: there is never one top absolute foreigner same is with koreans ~~ | ||
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JiYo
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Raidern
Brazil3821 Posts
the guy just got the final in 3 tournaments: ggl, the ace, tanl, and I think it's still in the loser brackets of tot invite. | ||
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
Draco has won TANL. I laugh when u say Mondragon isnt in shape | ||
ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On April 02 2006 10:10 Sfydjklm wrote: *cough*androide*cough* You gotta stop with that man. Androides "LAN onlyness" really limits the conditions under which we can judge him. I do however enjoy seeing him place so highly in WCGs though. | ||
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GuYuTe-
United States550 Posts
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tKd_
United States2916 Posts
On April 02 2006 10:32 YoiChiBow wrote: Mondragon is the best foreigner. Recently hes 3-1 advokate in ESL KOTH, 3-0 Odin ESL KOTH, beat Testie very decisively couple times now, won GGL, and hes just rapin it up recently Draco has won TANL. I laugh when u say Mondragon isnt in shape Agreed. Mondragon for me has been a zerg inspiration from a couple of years back too. Learned a lot from his zvp - even zvt this thread could've been better as best "p" | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
On April 02 2006 10:49 GuYuTe- wrote: People always mention Testie up there with the top foreigners but every single time I watch reps of him he's getting raped. What gives? u should watch more replays ~~ And not only Testie vs Mondi's ones. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On April 02 2006 10:44 ManaBlue wrote: You gotta stop with that man. Androides "LAN onlyness" really limits the conditions under which we can judge him. I do however enjoy seeing him place so highly in WCGs though. Its not LAN onlyness  its WCG onlynessAnd i disagree. It doesnt limit. it just doesnt leave no room for crap like draco-testie feud. I wish all the players were like androide and stopped caring about games that mean nothing(talking about ff game ofc, tanl and americup are semi-important of course ) | ||
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HumbleZealot
Canada508 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On April 02 2006 11:01 HumbleZealot wrote: Andriode is not the best non-korean nor is he the best non-korean terran, he just had 1 good run @ WCG. How does that make him best? Try getting your info straight before you post  | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
i mean Draco,Testie,Mondi havent been in pro-team and playing/training so much vs koreans only. | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
He lives there you know. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
I thought he quit. | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
On April 02 2006 11:07 Musli wrote: because we dont see him in tournaments and hes more Korean than non-korean :D i mean Draco,Testie,Mondi havent been in pro-team and playing/training so much vs koreans only. I think this is ironic because PJ is still being discussed even though he's been in Korea for a while now. On April 02 2006 11:07 Twisted wrote: Because most people count Assem as a Korean. He lives there you know. Not anymore.. | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
On April 02 2006 11:12 1tym wrote: I think this is ironic because PJ is still being discussed even though he's been in Korea for a while now. for a while - too short to be called korean ^^ | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
and such players are called non-koreans :-] | ||
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zrucrem
Afghanistan425 Posts
Slayers Bxer was #1 korean /world for 18 mnths... thats omg | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
On April 02 2006 11:58 zrucrem wrote: Slayers Bxer was #1 korean /world for 18 mnths... thats omg KeSPA isnt the 100% true src of who is no1 gamer in Korea -.- | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
On April 02 2006 12:04 Musli wrote: KeSPA isnt the 100% true src of who is no1 gamer in Korea -.- Then what do you suggest as the true source of measuring one's performance in Korea? | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
On April 02 2006 12:10 1tym wrote: Then what do you suggest as the true source of measuring one's performance in Korea? nothing can ^^ | ||
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[X]Ken_D
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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HumbleZealot
Canada508 Posts
On April 02 2006 11:02 Sfydjklm wrote: Try getting your info straight before you post I konw he's done more then making finals of WCG, but it wasn't until he got to finals of WCG until people seriosly started considering him to be one of the best. Compared to what mondi, testie, and draco have managed to do in their time, andriode hasn't accomplished THAT much. Not unless russia has a shit load of huge tournies and such we don't know about. | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
2nd WCG.Ru 2002, 2nd WCG.Ru 2004, 3rd WCG.Ru 2005 Testie and Draco are far behind. Mondys online accomplishments probably make up the difference in lacking offline titles. | ||
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Luhh
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
All I can say is that it's undenyable that Androide did the best against the pros in WCGs. He beat leg and control both in the final stages of the tournament. The kid played fucking great the whole time, so you gotta hand it to him. But again, I'd be very comfortable betting on half of the ToT lineup to beat him in a showmatch. Take it how you will. Bottom line is there's no way to pick a best player so we shouldn't bother. | ||
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rel
Guam3521 Posts
My best foriengers list: Assem Pj Lx Super Mondragon Testie Draco Advokate Order isen't important but Im sure the chinese players are better then the europeons+testie, except for maybe assem. | ||
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[SvS]Pretty_GG
China86 Posts
draco is best pvz non-kor player. PvP and PvT not is him. | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
Pj is only PvT, im sure that Testie can easily ZvP him, Mondi as we could see too ^^ who is best PvP ? :D | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4653 Posts
They usually lose to Europeans+Testie. Maybe one day PJ & LX would possibly be the best since they're on a pro team as training dummies | ||
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rel
Guam3521 Posts
But most people generalize china as only pj, cause people think he's the best in china lol. | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
HBQ was v.good, but nothing else. Super's TvZ doesnt impress me. | ||
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Guam3521 Posts
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RiSE
United States3182 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
But again, I'd be very comfortable betting on half of the ToT lineup to beat him in a showmatch. Not because of skill^^ | ||
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Mr.Testie
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On April 02 2006 12:50 Luhh wrote: Seriously, cut this "foreigner" crap already. He's not a fucking gupsy, I'm sure he's a native citizen in his country... its a generally accepted term used to mean non korean. theyre not saying hes a foreigner of his country. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On April 02 2006 11:07 Twisted wrote: Because most people count Assem as a Korean. He lives there you know. hes back in georgia now | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
if draco isn't already the best foreigner, he will be. He's the next big thing imo | ||
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
ZvT: SEn ZvP: Mondragon/Testie PvT: PJ by far PvP: Fisheye/Lx PvZ: Draco TvT: Super/a2 TvP: Androide/Lamer/Rushgoon noone really stands out here except Androide@WCG TvZ: Assem/ret | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
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Guybrush
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
and most people have forgotten about fisheye. even though hes pretty inactive now, he always does well when he shows up, always. | ||
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craZypivoUseR
Ukraine70 Posts
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
Ah ok.. I don't follow progaming =] | ||
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fEAthEr
Canada482 Posts
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k3fka
Argentina1267 Posts
Theres an old school tot revival with spawn and the ugliest dutchole strafe playing massive on pgtour. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On April 02 2006 14:36 Guybrush wrote: TvT: Super/a2 have you seen androide vs control?^^ | ||
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DaZe
Sweden2111 Posts
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Guam3521 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Hasn't androide quit? Although I think I did see him online on west a few days ago -...- (the nal clan bot did a /last seen users thing and androide was listed). Anyway, draco's PvZ is fantastic but his PvT is t_______t On April 02 2006 14:36 Guybrush wrote: ZvZ:Breakdown ZvT: SEn ZvP: Mondragon/Testie ;;;;;;; Breakdown isn't very active right now -,-a PvT: PJ by far PvP: Fisheye/Lx PvZ: Draco PJ is very good at PvP too, maybe even better than an inactive fisheye. TvT: Super/a2 TvP: Androide/Lamer/Rushgoon noone really stands out here except Androide@WCG TvZ: Assem/ret I think Super has pretty nice TvP.. although that might just have been draco's (relatively) bad pvt making it look better than it is. And why mention so many retired players? Ret is back but not playing a lot, assem is inactive (I think?) and androide has quit. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
didnt draco beat pj 2 or 3 -0 pvp in something recently? doesnt mean much but i dont think pj's pvp is that good. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
Hasn't androide quit? I did believe that at first, but then i thought to myself, of course Androide is mighty, but can he hold against the power of the GAME? | ||
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rSWisdom[9]
United States117 Posts
On April 02 2006 10:14 Musli wrote: imo Draco is better than LX or PJ. He is imo best foreign P cuz i really dont see anyone close to him. He is top foreigner too, but i cant say top3/top5 etc. Testie is best random and race picker. Mondi is best Z but sen is near ^^ Best T was Androide and i hope he will prove it on this WCG too :-] Chinese Terrans are v.good too, but most of them have some weak mu, each one other ^^ polish ppl are always so proud of their own players ;] | ||
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
There isnt exactly a wave of P players that has impressed me PvP. Fisheye won Pusan and took a game from Nal_rA. Perfectly just to name him in that MU regardless of activity (he played just over two months ago), and you need to look at results over a reasonable amount of time ie 6 months to 1 year to accurately judge a players current skill level. 6 months ago I had Draco in top 3 PvZ and got laughed at, now everyone is praising him like a god because he finally proved it. When it comes to Androide I just havent seen any foreign terran having sexy vulture control like him, and generally play nonstandard harass micro intensive TvP and winning with it against good Ps. Doesnt mean there arent others who are really good though. I just havent seen anyone that stands out which makes it hard to come up with a certain player. Androide stood out in that MU when he was playing, but Im not gonna argue on it because that's my opinion based on the replays I saw from him in tournaments(not only WCG). Of course many players arent that active now, because there's basically nothing to practice for. ECG got cancelled WCG prelims are still 3-4 months ahead so meh. Oh and Supers TvP is pretty solid yes, though I havent seen enough replays of him in that MU(past 4 months) to tell if he's the best. | ||
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ky[Z]
China1730 Posts
On April 02 2006 17:02 Guybrush wrote: Im mentioning players that stand out for those particular matchups. Come up with other players that can compare to assem/rets tvz then. Anyways we know rets gonna start playing so I think its totally just to name him even though he isnt that active right now. Breakdowns ZvZ can only be matched by Mondragon, and iNcontroL/Scnibl0r when they're in the zone. There isnt exactly a wave of P players that has impressed me PvP. Fisheye won Pusan and took a game from Nal_rA. Perfectly just to name him in that MU regardless of activity (he played just over two months ago), and you need to look at results over a reasonable amount of time ie 6 months to 1 year to accurately judge a players current skill level. 6 months ago I had Draco in top 3 PvZ and got laughed at, now everyone is praising him like a god because he finally proved it. When it comes to Androide I just havent seen any foreign terran having sexy vulture control like him, and generally play nonstandard harass micro intensive TvP and winning with it against good Ps. Doesnt mean there arent others who are really good though. I just havent seen anyone that stands out which makes it hard to come up with a certain player. Androide stood out in that MU when he was playing, but Im not gonna argue on it because that's my opinion based on the replays I saw from him in tournaments(not only WCG). Of course many players arent that active now, because there's basically nothing to practice for. ECG got cancelled WCG prelims are still 3-4 months ahead so meh. Oh and Supers TvP is pretty solid yes, though I havent seen enough replays of him in that MU(past 4 months) to tell if he's the best. I read on yaoyuan that Super will release a rep pack soon featuring most of his PGT games. hehe that'd be a feast. | ||
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
On April 02 2006 16:49 rSWisdom[9] wrote: polish ppl are always so proud of their own players ;] soo..were not supposed to be proud? | ||
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Sun
United States551 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
would be nice if it wasnt excessively proud to the point of annoyance. | ||
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1tym
Korea (South)2425 Posts
On April 02 2006 17:44 HungZerg wrote: would be nice if it wasnt excessively proud to the point of annoyance. .... like German Dr. Phil? | ||
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miNi
Korea (South)2010 Posts
Pj and Lx however, are good enough to have been scouted by SK Telecom and are doing very well against some high-leveled Korean amateurs. Pj 2-0'ed quite a few recently. | ||
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On April 02 2006 20:03 PaeZ wrote: having a top1 in this game is almost impossible because draco may own right now but in 2 months or so he will slump, besides testie did raped zvp, and mondi raped testie, and pj imo is pretty incosistent, because i just cant believe a guy with so many training in korea cant do what draco, testie, mondi and even assem did, but W/e dont say top 1. top is plural. Ill fix one person at a time. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On April 02 2006 20:00 miNi wrote: He's not the best foreigner, or else he would be playing in Korea. Pj and Lx however, are good enough to have been scouted by SK Telecom and are doing very well against some high-leveled Korean amateurs. Pj 2-0'ed quite a few recently. bad reasoning. skill is far from the only determining factor in going to korea, especially in the case of pj/lx. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On April 02 2006 13:36 Musli wrote: cuz he is ^^ HBQ was v.good, but nothing else. Super's TvZ doesnt impress me. Obviously you didn't seem him tear apart Siva in CKCG. He demonstrated a level of micro/macro that goes unseen in the European/American scene. I can name only one person outside of Asia who has that macro in TvZ, and only a few names with that micro. | ||
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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ky[Z]
China1730 Posts
On April 02 2006 20:40 YoiChiBow wrote: Super is pretty good tho. imo he should be in Korea. Lx just got to go to korea cuz he dt dropped and got lucky. He will probaly get picked up by a pro-team after this year's China-Korea CEG type of tournament. | ||
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EtErNaLAeOn
Germany214 Posts
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b_unnies
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
i don't see much talent in lx though. i think he will be one of those players who must rely on risky builds to win. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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Into.Love
China172 Posts
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linyu)wufan18
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On April 02 2006 20:51 ky[Z] wrote: He will probaly get picked up by a pro-team after this year's China-Korea CEG type of tournament. I don't think so. | ||
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linyu)wufan18
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0-6 ggon 0-4 much[gm],His tvz is not that good too. | ||
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littlechava
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linyu)wufan18
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Broken.Mind
United States364 Posts
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shasin
Romania899 Posts
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
On April 03 2006 03:18 shasin wrote: Officialy, Androide is the best non-kor. How? | ||
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neotoss
China217 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
just out of interest, what did mondragon actually achieved? if you are going to compare wcg results then except for fisheye, the russians and chinese have dominated the placings and both of their scene is not exactly foreign -_-(meaning they keep to themselves alot). if you are going to compare with pgtour results then super ranked highest out of anyone out side of krea ever. if you are going to rate this on how many times they beat pros then fisheye is definately the winner since he beat nal_ra once pvp. mondragon won once versus reach but the matchup is -_-. Btw i think super would do well given a chance. Pj and Lx are naturally handicapped because of their race and they have to work themselves to half death before they can overcome any pro zergs. | ||
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Texas
Germany2388 Posts
Achievements: 1st place, DSC 2on2 Tournament 1st place, VIP I-II 1st place, ScT Invite Tournament 3rd place, WGTour Season 3 (1v1) 1st place, WGTour Season 3 (2v2) w/ ToT)LaZer( 1st place, WGTour Season 7 (2v2) w/ ToT)Testie(rS 1st place, GosuGamers Power League #1 1st place, World Class Tournament 1st place, bw4ever Invited Cash Tournament (50€) 2nd place, TLT-Ladder (400€) 1st place, WCG Germany 2004 1st place, WGTour Season 9 (1v1) 1st place, Teamliquid.net Tournament (2v2) w/ ToT)Testie(rS 1st place, ToT Invite Tournament 2004 1st place, Giga Liga Grandslam 2 (2000€) 1st place, Giga Liga Grandslam 4 (2000€) 1st place, Giga Liga Grandslam 5 1st place, Samsung European Championships 2005 (5000€) 1st place, (2005-09-27) » GG22BB (2on2) w/ Testie[pG] Won with team Europe in Blizzard's Mystery Map Invitational competition against team North America and team Asia Awarded 2005's Gamer of The Year by GG.Net 1st place GGL Americup Top 4, The Ace 2nd place, TANL-3 dunno if its up to date, not following his games that much. | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
On April 03 2006 01:39 zulu_nation8 wrote: good, i dont either.. admit it. u thought he was sexy but you were afraid 2 say it | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On April 03 2006 05:00 haduken wrote: no... super is super. phoenix is pheonix. just out of interest, what did mondragon actually achieved? if you are going to compare wcg results then except for fisheye, the russians and chinese have dominated the placings and both of their scene is not exactly foreign -_-(meaning they keep to themselves alot). if you are going to compare with pgtour results then super ranked highest out of anyone out side of krea ever. if you are going to rate this on how many times they beat pros then fisheye is definately the winner since he beat nal_ra once pvp. mondragon won once versus reach but the matchup is -_-. Btw i think super would do well given a chance. Pj and Lx are naturally handicapped because of their race and they have to work themselves to half death before they can overcome any pro zergs. Hehe, winning a PvP vs a pro is not harder than winning a ZvP vs a Pro. PvP/ZvZ both have quite a bit of build order luck ;o | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On April 03 2006 05:19 ml1710 wrote: admit it. u thought he was sexy but you were afraid 2 say it i cant say i think hes sexy, not even as a joke | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
For sure if we are talking about right now FiSheYe, Androide and ret are no choices, but if they are active they are under the top gamers easily. Right now i think Draco and Sen are fucking good nowadays . Extra props for mondragon with still doing so good, although the lack of training.. pretty awesome.. And plz do never ask again : who is the best foreigner ?? Cause there is no best foreigner. Not at anytime.. There is a top 10. Thats for sure.. but i'd have a hard time naming a top 5. If you begin to count inactive gamers, too its getting even worse.. So .. there is NO best foreigner... but there are like 3-5 who are standing above others in accomplishments AND / OR skill .. and there are like 10 who can easily beat each other.. stop this nr.1 foreigner shit i even hated when they called it the two best foreigners Testie and Mondi in some news or such things, cause it's simply not true and not even proveable.. no nr.1 never.. byebye | ||
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4523 Posts
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Norway28876 Posts
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sMaCkEr
Peru295 Posts
super > draco super > mondi super > testie make a showmatch super vs mondi that will be great =) | ||
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ColorDra
China251 Posts
Zerg: Mondragon Sen Protoss: Pj Draco Terran: Super Phoenix66 Random: Testie Mondragon can be the best, if he can beat Draco and Super Sen can be the best, if he can beat Draco and Phoenix66 Pj can be the best, if he can beat Mondragon and Sen Draco can be the best, if he can beat Testie and Super Super can be the best, if he can beat Pj Phoenix66 can be the best, if he can beat Pj Testie can be the best, if he can beat Mondragon and Phoenix66 and I think Europe does not have super terran now. A2? no, I do not think he is on the same level with Super and Phoenix66. Europe is a Zerg land. | ||
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RiSE
United States3182 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
Thus I regard myself inactive, as I only play nation wars for Netherlands atm ; ) | ||
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IcedEarth
United States3661 Posts
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shasin
Romania899 Posts
I consider WCG and ECG as official tournaments. Put together he ended up higher then any other non-kor. He did well in every WCG btw. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On April 03 2006 09:08 shasin wrote: I consider WCG and ECG as official tournaments. Put together he ended up higher then any other non-kor. He did well in every WCG btw. Srry, but you are calling for it, sir ! He did not end higher than any other non kor, cause FiSheYe got 2nd, too. Not sure about Elky, but i thought he got 2nd, too, but dont know. Androide did well in every WCG ? Well, no idea but if you go by how well guys did in wcg you have to go for fisheye. He is the only player all around the world to make it to wcg korea 4 ( or 5 ? ) times. I think he always got top 16 or .. almost always made it trough the group stage.. For whatever reason you think Androide is the best non korean gamer ( he never is, btw there is NO single best gamer.. when will you stupid guys learn that ? ) he isnt the best cause of his wcg achievements. If you go by wcg achievements you would have got to take fisheye.. ;( so better think of something else or accept, there is NO best foreigner, nor Nr.1. And if there would be one it would mostlikely be Mondragon, Elky, Nazgul, Slayer or maybe FiSheYe.. bye | ||
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United States339 Posts
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cuteFayth
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Broken.Mind
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DaZe
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1tym
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nicksson
Sweden110 Posts
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
On April 03 2006 11:48 {ToT}Strafe wrote: I just got a message from fisheye. He said his ass was incredibly well licked lately *giggles* | ||
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1tym
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
On April 03 2006 12:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote: phil rubbing fisheye's balls again? People bashing Testie? Strafe making random homosexual comments. Me flaming again... some things never change. ^^ | ||
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
On April 03 2006 11:52 HungZerg wrote: naz and i think froz have been to as many wcgs as fisheye. i know naz did and i think there was one other. maybe it was elky. No. I can tell you the right away because Fisheye has been to them all. Froz didnt win WCG USA like 3 years ago, that was when Rekrul and Assem went. And Froz also lost in 2005 where Day & Cocoa played in the grand fianls. (Froz lost to Nero in round 1 at USA Finals) And Nazgul didnt go last year, due to the Netherlands not having Starcraft, as well as a bunch of other games. (2005) (had to edit) | ||
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Xeroth
United States432 Posts
People who still consider them are just racist fucks who think video games are written into Korean's DNA or some shit. THEY PLAY PROFESSIONALLY FOR 13 HOURS A DAY. Of course they are going to be better than amateurs. | ||
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1tym
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Pros play about 8 hours a day before a major tourney. Otherwise I'd say about 5~6 hours or less a day which is comparable to some of the hard-core amateurs. A lot of the training include not only playing but also meditation. | ||
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On April 03 2006 13:16 cuteFayth wrote: oh shit i shud start playing 13 hours a day! you'd still be ugly and gay and probably suck harder than you already do. you cant even beat a retired failed progamer. my favorite progamer is that protoss guy in tot from nld | ||
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
On April 03 2006 13:36 {ToT}Strafe wrote: you'd still be ugly and gay and probably suck harder than you already do. you cant even beat a retired failed progamer. my favorite progamer is that protoss guy in tot from nld you can't even beat oldy a single game, and ive beaten rek bo7 now fuck off u fucking newbie, u were never good | ||
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On April 03 2006 12:32 {88}iNcontroL wrote: phil rubbing fisheye's balls again? People bashing Testie? Strafe making random homosexual comments. Me flaming again... some things never change. Haha, only worthwhile post in this thread. | ||
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On April 03 2006 14:20 Mickey[aCt] wrote: I really like Draco's play. I also remember him beating iloveoov in PvsT/PvsP on Season 4 PGTour. that was Dunaj | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On April 03 2006 05:40 zulu_nation8 wrote: i think zia is #1 this ain't GashCraft | ||
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Poland19 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
draco beat him pvt on requiem on season. when oov was using ggom i think. | ||
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Poland19 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
i take it back then | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
i guess fisheye really is the awesomest:D | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
On April 03 2006 13:40 cuteFayth wrote: you can't even beat oldy a single game, and ive beaten rek bo7 now fuck off u fucking newbie, u were never good oldy raped the shit out of your ugly nerd face as well, cuz oldy is good and you fucking suck. 1;1 fayth? bo1,3,5,7 all fine with me for 100-200$? | ||
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ROOTheognis
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fayth is the white version of Bruce Lee... short and ripped | ||
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