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..that are East Asian, attractive, socially well-adjusted, highly intelligent, and reserved?
I am currently a university undergraduate in his first year and a biochemistry major. My ethnicity is 100% Chinese, my height is approximately 5 feet and 3 inches, my age is 17, and my appearance is "somewhat above-average" (not my own judgment, I consulted a female friend regarding this matter) in the sense that it is not distinctively amazing but has no particular negative characteristics.
I am trying to devise an efficient strategy for the identification of potential friends; preferably female ones, because I already know where to find all of the ̶a̶u̶t̶i̶s̶t̶i̶c̶ slightly quirky and highly intelligent males.
To elaborate, my criteria are:
* East Asian, preferably Chinese or Japanese
* Intelligent and preferably majoring in math, science, or engineering or (and this is the OR operator, not the XOR operator) planning to pursue postgraduate studies
* Decently attractive in a traditional Chinese sense
* Socially well-adjusted but modest and reserved
* Possessing somewhat conservative (traditional Asian) values; must not be promiscuous, must not drink alcohol frequently, must not use any recreational drugs whatsoever at all
* Good personality
Please respond.
(To clarify, I am seeking female friends before I am seeking girlfriends, but the latter is naturally a subset of the former so if the former is merely the empty set then, well...)
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You sound like you have a charming personality, and you seem to be realistic in your criteria for selecting girls. Good luck.
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On September 08 2012 12:54 Suichoy wrote:
You're joking, right?
99% of the people who post blogs asking some variant of this question do so in an incredibly obtuse manner. They are more often than not vague, non-specific, indirect, and embellished with irrelevant information. I am simply asking what I want to ask while directly providing the relevant information as well as a clear-cut, unambiguous list of criteria. In other words, I am doing what many other people on this forum also do, but merely in a more straightforward manner.
I mean, if you really want me to provide you with some drawn-out, poorly written (well, no, I'd write it well, I suppose) account of my past along with a lot of adolescent angst sprinkled in about how things went wrong, along with some ridiculous attempt at reflection or introspection, I would be happy to provide that, but I think that I am just as tired of seeing that kind of idiocy as everyone else is.
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On September 08 2012 12:57 meguca wrote:99% of the people who post blogs asking some variant of this question do so in an incredibly obtuse manner. They are more often than not vague, non-specific, indirect, and embellished with irrelevant information. I am simply asking what I want to ask while directly providing the relevant information as well as a clear-cut, unambiguous list of criteria. In other words, I am doing what many other people on this forum also do, but merely in a more straightforward manner.
I predict epic lack of success.
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On September 08 2012 12:57 meguca wrote:
I mean, if you really want me to provide you with some drawn-out, poorly written (well, no, I'd write it well, I suppose) account of my past along with a lot of adolescent angst sprinkled in about how things went wrong, along with some ridiculous attempt at reflection or introspection, I would be happy to provide that, but I think that I am just as tired of seeing that kind of idiocy as everyone else is.
but but but but.... that's what girl blogs are for!! You can't come storming in here with your "logic." Girls know no logic. I predict your attempts will be failure unless you immediately change the entire girl blog to include everything that you so correctly pointed out are requisite for a girl blog. If you decide to follow your exemplary predecessors, I am positive that success will find you!
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Start by transfering to UC system or a big Canadian university, like UofT, Waterloo, UBC.
We have almost the exact same values. Too bad I go to a school where all the Chinese girls lack the 2nd criteria. They came here to escape the Gao Kao, so they're either lazy, dumb, or a combination of both.
Ya ok ill give some practical advice I guess. The few girl friends that you have? Use them to meet other East Asian girls and guys. Don't overlook the guys; there are those guys that know all the girls but wouldn't date them, these are the ones that you need to befriend. They'll be the ones that'll introduce you to all them sexy ladies.
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
At my university there was ASA (Asian student association)
Since you are biochemistry major, there should be a lot of Asians in that field. You should have no problem conversing with them if you are Chinese. If you don't initiate conversation with them in class, you can try studying in the library where you might run into them.
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Don't go into engineering. Or do? w.e
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Step one: Stop thinking of a girlfriend selecting as a sort of cyborg shopping.
Step Two: Stop talking like this: "and this is the OR operator, not the XOR operator "
Step three: Get fit, become charming, become socially popular, and become confident
Step 4: talk to girls
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You are thinking too logically. You can obviously devise a reliable strategy for meeting these girls, but they will not be attracted to you if this is the personality you are showing them.
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Where are you located? Most bigger cities have some sort of Chinatown, or AsianSuburbia. Once you have located such a place, proceed at once to your nearest thrift store. Arrange yourself in the latest incognito clothing. I recommend a trench coat, binoculars, over sized floppy hat, and some david caruso glasses. Make sure you pull that collar up. Also brown or grey trench coats work best. Also make sure to purchase a newspaper, that will come in hand later.
Once you have located your Asian depository and you have attired yourself accordingly, attempt to blend in with the asian crowd. Make sure you don't talk to anyone directly, or ever take off your clothes. You don't want people knowing what you actually look like.
Once you have found a suitable candidate, follow them from a reasonable distance. As you creep along, make sure you spot ahead of them future hiding spots. Bushes, building alcoves, and fat old people seem to work best. If you ever find yourself with no respectable hiding place, simply whip out that newspaper you bought earlier and hold it so that your eyes are just peering over the top. Follow your target until she reaches her main dwelling.
After finding out where she lives, it is only a simple matter of discovering where they deposit their trash each week. If it's a dumpster you're golden, however if it's on the sidewalk outside her house, you may have difficulty opening it in private. I suggest grabbing the bag during the night, when less people are sure to be around. However, you better keep on your clothes just in case.
Once you have her garbage, eventually you should locate vast amounts of useful information. What bank she uses, what school she attends, how much money she has, etc. etc. The sky really is the limit depending on how much time you want to invest.
Good luck old friend! And remember, if you ever doubt what you should do next, you can always come to TL and ask what to do next.
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You shouldn't worry about finding women now. You're probably not ready for it. If you meet someone, great, but for now I'd suggest just focusing on your school life -- study, and enjoy your time with the friends you have. Meet their friends. If you want to meet new people, just find groups in the university that you're interested in. Don't make it a scientific mission -- it doesn't work, and it's not terribly flattering to be told that someone is interested in you because you match six of their seven ridiculous criteria (and yes, "Chinese or Japanese," "attractive in a traditional Chinese sense," and "majoring in math, science, or engineering" qualify as ridiculous criteria).
Alternatively, use online dating sites where you can filter for those things, or ask your parents to consult a traditional matchmaker for you.
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T.O.P.
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On September 08 2012 12:46 meguca wrote:
5 feet and 3 inches
I don't want to discourage you. But that's tough to compensate for.
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First off, ditch your whole criteria and loosen up a bit. Now that you have done that read on. Join a club that you like. Talk to girls in that club. Get to know them. If you like them become friends with them. They will introduce you to their friends. The more people you meet there will be a higher chance you will find a girlfriend.
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I think if you want to attract an intelligent female you should be more modest and lower your standards; it isn't attractive to talk like you think you're smart.
Based on your criteria probably just keep your eyes peeled in class. Form study groups in every class you'll be popular enough.
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Sounds like you are stereotypical introverted awkward Asian in an UC. Let me guess, Davis/Irvine? You'll feel right at home. Plenty of other stereotypical introverted awkward Asians.
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To elaborate, my criteria are:
* East Asian, preferably Chinese or Japanese
* Intelligent and preferably majoring in math, science, or engineering or (and this is the OR operator, not the XOR operator) planning to pursue postgraduate studies
* Decently attractive in a traditional Chinese sense
* Socially well-adjusted but modest and reserved
* Possessing somewhat conservative (traditional Asian) values; must not be promiscuous, must not drink alcohol frequently, must not use any recreational drugs whatsoever at all
* Good personality
That's a pretty fucking long list, I'm sure if a girl who meets all those criteria were to have a list of her own, she'd have something like 180 cm or some other criteria that you don't satisfy. Why don't you take that list, a reduce it to just two or three points and go with that first?
To boil it down, really, you are just looking for a Chinese girl who's not ugly, intelligent and has a decent personality, and to be honest, they really aren't that hard to find, especially if you aren't too selective in the physical appearance department. So to answer your question, probably libraries or through friends or friends of friends.
Don't take this the wrong way: you are short, and Chinese girls usually have a height minimum.
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I think this blog is unintentionally extremely ironic and fitting at the same time on levels that I can only vaguely comprehend. To the OP . . .
If you have no respect for the people who write and read the girl blogs on here, why are you asking their advice? Because I don't think you would like any of the advice we would give you. A few things from me . . .
Learn to communicate better. You might go a long way academically with your style of writing, but women like to talk about feelings and desires without using mathematical metaphors. Plus, your style is terrible for actually getting across your ideas. I guarantee you I can write a lot better than you because my college had a good writing center. I had to give up my notions of what good writing was and learn a little humility. Now I know how to communicate, even if I don't sound as smart as you. It's easy to sound smart. It's hard to communicate well.
Learn to value and cultivate what you seem to despise. Self-awareness, introspection, and emotional intelligence go a long way in relationships. It will help you realize you aren't perfect and how you can make yourself a lot more attractive. It will also help you understand other people's emotions. Relationships are all about emotions. If you understand a girl's emotions you can figure out how to make her like you.
Relationships are about compromise, even before the relationship happens. You will never be ideal boyfriend material. Right now, you seem to be well below ideal despite what you think. Some girl is going to compromise when she accepts you as her boyfriend. You are going to have to compromise when you find a girl. She isn't going to be perfect, but it will be the best you can do, just like you will be the best she can do. That's how the world works. Accept that now or accept it after a lot of frustration.
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On September 08 2012 13:16 TheKwas wrote:
Step one: Stop thinking of a girlfriend selecting as a sort of cyborg shopping.
Step Two: Stop talking like this: "and this is the OR operator, not the XOR operator "
Step three: Get fit, become charming, become socially popular, and become confident
Step 4: talk to girls
this x1000.
You shouldn't look for a girl with your pre-set idea of what you want. You will get bored after a few years of marriage. Just socialise and find a girl you click with imo
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Seriously, if you don't spend your twenties fucking around with girls from all over the world, one of three things is going to happen
1) you are going to be monogamous and married to your "dream chinese girl", and your life is going to be miserable
2) you are going to cheat on your "dream chinese girl" with girls from all around the world, and her life is going to be miserable
3) you are going to divorce your "dream chinese girl" and your kids are going to be miserable
Don't force yourself into that Morton's fork. College is a wonderful time to get stoned with that gorgeous Georgian (the country, not the state) exchange student, naked, on a bed, while both of you listen to Bob Dylan and talk metaphysics, among other things.
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My favorite part about college is that it allows you to meet all these people exactly like yourself. Having stepped outside the box once or twice myself I can tell you will never find another place as safe, warm and fulfilling. Cherish it always. As for meeting girls, remember you're better than your classmates both mentally and socially so pick the most eligible girl in any of your classes and claim her. Compared with those autists you'll look like a million bucks
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As others have observed, okay your approach is specific and well-defined, but probably too much so. The way you write comes off as exceedingly odd, at least to me, with inclusive/exclusive parameters set solidly. While these might be your criteria, if you express yourself this way and continually insist on holding this kind of specific and undeviating attitude, you will likely find yourself having a hard time getting anywhere.
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Someone post that moltke quote, we need it here asap
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Put bluntly, girls don't wanna fuck a computer.
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Drink heavily, do what your penis tells you to.
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On September 08 2012 14:21 Dfgj wrote:
Someone post that moltke quote, we need it here asap
The point is none of these women are marriable. Pictures don't tell much about how attractive someone really is. How can you know whether you're attracted to a person or not until you know -Their religion, and respective piety -Their family and family history -Their socio-economic class -Their artistic and literary talents -Their sensitivity, romanticism and sentimentalism -Their patriotism, provincialism, and rootedness in their native culture -Their cooking, cleaning and other domestic abilities -Their mental and emotional stability -Their historical attitude and preferences regarding bourgeois family life -Their racial origins (if not already clear) -Their feminine virtues (virginity, modesty, etc) The above listed constitute 95% of the qualifications for any marriable and therefore attractive girl 
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On September 08 2012 14:21 Dfgj wrote:
Someone post that moltke quote, we need it here asap
I gotcha. Ninja'd though 
+ Show Spoiler +On June 09 2005 21:10 MoltkeWarding wrote:
The point is none of these women are marriable.
Pictures don't tell much about how attractive someone really is.
How can you know whether you're attracted to a person or not until you know
-Their religion, and respective piety
-Their family and family history
-Their socio-economic class
-Their artistic and literary talents
-Their sensitivity, romanticism and sentimentalism
-Their patriotism, provincialism, and rootedness in their native culture
-Their cooking, cleaning and other domestic abilities
-Their mental and emotional stability
-Their historical attitude and preferences regarding bourgeois family life
-Their racial origins (if not already clear)
-Their feminine virtues (virginity, modesty, etc)
The above listed constitute 95% of the qualifications for any marriable and therefore attractive girl For additional giggles, courtesy of disciple: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/disciple/moltke1.jpg)
Classic. Not entirely relevant to the blog but kinda has to do with it, I guess.
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"their cooking, cleaning, and domestic abilities"??!?!?! Seriously?
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On September 08 2012 14:15 Shady Sands wrote:
Seriously, if you don't spend your twenties fucking around with girls from all over the world, one of three things is going to happen
1) you are going to be monogamous and married to your "dream chinese girl", and your life is going to be miserable
2) you are going to cheat on your "dream chinese girl" with girls from all around the world, and her life is going to be miserable
3) you are going to divorce your "dream chinese girl" and your kids are going to be miserable
Don't force yourself into that Morton's fork. College is a wonderful time to get stoned with that gorgeous Georgian (the country, not the state) exchange student, naked, on a bed, while both of you listen to Bob Dylan and talk metaphysics, among other things.
I love you, man
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On September 08 2012 14:35 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
"their cooking, cleaning, and domestic abilities"??!?!?! Seriously?
Would it offend you less if it was say....5% of the 95% that make up the qualification for a marryable girl?
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On September 08 2012 14:42 Megaliskuu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 14:35 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
"their cooking, cleaning, and domestic abilities"??!?!?! Seriously? Would it offend you less if it was say....5% of the 95% that make up the qualification for a marryable girl?
>5% for me, unfortunately. I'm a total slob and a glutton =P
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On September 08 2012 14:42 Megaliskuu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 14:35 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
"their cooking, cleaning, and domestic abilities"??!?!?! Seriously? Would it offend you less if it was say....5% of the 95% that make up the qualification for a marryable girl?
I'm not offended, I'm just amused that I solved the mystery of your virginity.
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On September 08 2012 14:15 Shady Sands wrote:
Seriously, if you don't spend your twenties fucking around with girls from all over the world, one of three things is going to happen
1) you are going to be monogamous and married to your "dream chinese girl", and your life is going to be miserable
2) you are going to cheat on your "dream chinese girl" with girls from all around the world, and her life is going to be miserable
3) you are going to divorce your "dream chinese girl" and your kids are going to be miserable
Don't force yourself into that Morton's fork. College is a wonderful time to get stoned with that gorgeous Georgian (the country, not the state) exchange student, naked, on a bed, while both of you listen to Bob Dylan and talk metaphysics, among other things.
Option 2 doesn't sound that bad
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On September 08 2012 15:09 mynameisgreat11 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 14:42 Megaliskuu wrote:On September 08 2012 14:35 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
"their cooking, cleaning, and domestic abilities"??!?!?! Seriously? Would it offend you less if it was say....5% of the 95% that make up the qualification for a marryable girl? I'm not offended, I'm just amused that I solved the mystery of your virginity.
This just in: quoting old posts on TL causes virginity.
I'm so sorry, the two of you I led down this road.
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On September 08 2012 14:54 Chill wrote:
lol
The Chill has spoken
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Your use of language in this post is hilarious, be it irony or simply the awkward 'intelligent eloquence' of a teenager.
5*
But really, the way you write screams your age. It is only justifiable to use 'big words' and complex grammar structure when it adds meaning. This is usually the case in academic or technical work (this blog is not). So if it is your goal to be a more intelligent person, (and communicator) part of that lies in learning how to properly use the words (syntax) you have picked up rather than tossing them about willy-nilly in a way that is correct but distracting.
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On September 08 2012 13:09 The_LiNk wrote:
Start by transfering to UC system or a big Canadian university, like UofT, Waterloo, UBC.
We have almost the exact same values. Too bad I go to a school where all the Chinese girls lack the 2nd criteria. They came here to escape the Gao Kao, so they're either lazy, dumb, or a combination of both.
I am at a major state flagship West Coast university with a massive number of incoming Chinese internationals. Unfortunately, they are mostly, well, "bad stock", so to speak... I don't even really understand why Chinese students find the Gaokao so difficult. I've seen English-translated questions, and all of the math problems are downright trivial.
On September 08 2012 13:11 illsick wrote:
At my university there was ASA (Asian student association)
Since you are biochemistry major, there should be a lot of Asians in that field. You should have no problem conversing with them if you are Chinese. If you don't initiate conversation with them in class, you can try studying in the library where you might run into them.
How would I initiate conversation in class? During a lecture, I am always taking notes attentively or working on problems. Moreover, it would be rather strange to initiate conversation with someone in a library.
On September 08 2012 13:15 obesechicken13 wrote:
Don't go into engineering. Or do? w.e
I don't really want to.
On September 08 2012 13:16 TORTOISE wrote:
Lower your standards :D
No.
On September 08 2012 13:16 TheKwas wrote:
Step one: Stop thinking of a girlfriend selecting as a sort of cyborg shopping.
Step Two: Stop talking like this: "and this is the OR operator, not the XOR operator "
Step three: Get fit, become charming, become socially popular, and become confident
Step 4: talk to girls
Well, I don't actually talk like that in real life; naturally, I am simply trying to get my point across on this forum in an efficient but precise manner, but I would not say such stilted phrases in a real-time face-to-face conversation. Moreover, selecting a person who may eventually become one's wife in the future is a non-trivial task and should naturally be undertaken with care and finesse; it would not do to be too liberal in one's expectations and standards.
I am already moderately fit. I don't, however, know how I can become "charming". I have no interest in being socially popular, as even the process of doing so would require a fair amount of interaction with society at large; generally speaking, I find this unpleasant. I prefer the company of small groups of qualified individuals.
Finally, I am already confident, and I already do talk to girls.
On September 08 2012 13:19 CosmicSpiral wrote:
You are thinking too logically. You can obviously devise a reliable strategy for meeting these girls, but they will not be attracted to you if this is the personality you are showing them.
The problem resolves itself if I do not show them this personality.
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On September 08 2012 15:09 mynameisgreat11 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 14:42 Megaliskuu wrote:On September 08 2012 14:35 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
"their cooking, cleaning, and domestic abilities"??!?!?! Seriously? Would it offend you less if it was say....5% of the 95% that make up the qualification for a marryable girl? I'm not offended, I'm just amused that I solved the mystery of your virginity.
HAHA! You dun got me good
+ Show Spoiler +Obviously offended
White Knight/10
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On September 08 2012 15:21 Ryalnos wrote:
Your use of language in this post is hilarious, be it irony or simply the awkward 'intelligent eloquence' of a teenager.
5*
But really, the way you write screams your age.
Professors tell me that I write like an academic, so I imagine you'd find browsing through old journals and papers quite amusing (that in an of itself is a rather amusing image).
I will admit, though, that many academic papers *are* written in an incredibly roundabout and superfluous manner (as far as the prose goes, at least).
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On September 08 2012 15:22 meguca wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 13:09 The_LiNk wrote:
Start by transfering to UC system or a big Canadian university, like UofT, Waterloo, UBC.
We have almost the exact same values. Too bad I go to a school where all the Chinese girls lack the 2nd criteria. They came here to escape the Gao Kao, so they're either lazy, dumb, or a combination of both. I am at a major state flagship West Coast university with a massive number of incoming Chinese internationals. Unfortunately, they are mostly, well, "bad stock", so to speak... I don't even really understand why Chinese students find the Gaokao so difficult. I've seen English-translated questions, and all of the math problems are downright trivial. Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 13:11 illsick wrote:
At my university there was ASA (Asian student association)
Since you are biochemistry major, there should be a lot of Asians in that field. You should have no problem conversing with them if you are Chinese. If you don't initiate conversation with them in class, you can try studying in the library where you might run into them. How would I initiate conversation in class? During a lecture, I am always taking notes attentively or working on problems. Moreover, it would be rather strange to initiate conversation with someone in a library. Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 13:15 obesechicken13 wrote:
Don't go into engineering. Or do? w.e I don't really want to. No. Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 13:16 TheKwas wrote:
Step one: Stop thinking of a girlfriend selecting as a sort of cyborg shopping.
Step Two: Stop talking like this: "and this is the OR operator, not the XOR operator "
Step three: Get fit, become charming, become socially popular, and become confident
Step 4: talk to girls Well, I don't actually talk like that in real life; naturally, I am simply trying to get my point across on this forum in an efficient but precise manner, but I would not say such stilted phrases in a real-time face-to-face conversation. Moreover, selecting a person who may eventually become one's wife in the future is a non-trivial task and should naturally be undertaken with care and finesse; it would not do to be too liberal in one's expectations and standards. I am already moderately fit. I don't, however, know how I can become "charming". I have no interest in being socially popular, as even the process of doing so would require a fair amount of interaction with society at large; generally speaking, I find this unpleasant. I prefer the company of small groups of qualified individuals. Finally, I am already confident, and I already do talk to girls. Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 13:19 CosmicSpiral wrote:
You are thinking too logically. You can obviously devise a reliable strategy for meeting these girls, but they will not be attracted to you if this is the personality you are showing them. The problem resolves itself if I do not show them this personality.
I think we are all being trolled here, hard.
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this is golden...truly a thread with the potential to become legendary
troll or not, i have a massive grin on my face right now after reading his responses
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You made me laugh, for that I thank you.
As to your problem, try south Asian, they are less discriminatory of height.
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On September 08 2012 15:26 meguca wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 15:21 Ryalnos wrote:
Your use of language in this post is hilarious, be it irony or simply the awkward 'intelligent eloquence' of a teenager.
5*
But really, the way you write screams your age. Professors tell me that I write like an academic, so I imagine you'd find browsing through old journals and papers quite amusing (that in an of itself is a rather amusing image). I will admit, though, that many academic papers *are* written in an incredibly roundabout and superfluous manner (as far as the prose goes, at least).
You write like a douche, not an academic. Academics write the way they do for very specific reasons (namely that terminology needs to be very clear and specific), there's absolutely no reason to write that way on a forum unless you're trying to look smart.
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On September 08 2012 15:41 corpuscle wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 15:26 meguca wrote:On September 08 2012 15:21 Ryalnos wrote:
Your use of language in this post is hilarious, be it irony or simply the awkward 'intelligent eloquence' of a teenager.
5*
But really, the way you write screams your age. Professors tell me that I write like an academic, so I imagine you'd find browsing through old journals and papers quite amusing (that in an of itself is a rather amusing image). I will admit, though, that many academic papers *are* written in an incredibly roundabout and superfluous manner (as far as the prose goes, at least). You write like a douche, not an academic. Academics write the way they do for very specific reasons (namely that terminology needs to be very clear and specific), there's absolutely no reason to write that way on a forum unless you're trying to look smart.
I write this way everywhere: in papers, on forums, in letters, in e-mails, etc. I am used to writing in this style and I do not intend on deviating from it anytime in the near future. I suggest you deal with it.
Moreover, you imply that there is no need for my terminology to be very clear and specific in a forum post. Might I ask why you believe that to be the case? I am, after all, trying to communicate.
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You really annoy me. I'm closing this. It's unfounded and completely subjective. If another moderator disagrees, I encourage them to reopen it.
You really annoy me.
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