EPTTwo things remain unchanged though: No Korean Contract was available (not implying that there was no translator at the place and/or skype call, which ever one it is. I'm trying to keep it as honest as possible) when Crane signed it, and Crane did not know about blackfoger's past before signing (at least, to certain scale. I guess FXOBoss warned him, but I don't know how much advice he gave Crane. I want to thank him though; shows that he still cares about the players even after they have left the team).
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supernovamaniac
United States3048 Posts
Two things remain unchanged though: No Korean Contract was available (not implying that there was no translator at the place and/or skype call, which ever one it is. I'm trying to keep it as honest as possible) when Crane signed it, and Crane did not know about blackfoger's past before signing (at least, to certain scale. I guess FXOBoss warned him, but I don't know how much advice he gave Crane. I want to thank him though; shows that he still cares about the players even after they have left the team). | ||
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Unsane
Canada170 Posts
Blackfoger wrote: In several other communities we have slowly been gaining the trust back such as CSS. AHEM, let them speak for themselves, you've had your credability revoked. Mo0Rauder wrote: Where is the money coming from? Blackfoger wrote: I have personally put in 70k You ask for 2k's at a time, yet you've personally invested 70k? Also, i wouldnt say you've dropped 70k on anything when you apparently owe very many people very much money. This is just in addition to what others have input. It feels too censored to say that you're just a plague upon esports, so, get off the fucking planet. | ||
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Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
On September 07 2012 03:02 UnRealXenoth wrote: Maybe he just is a pathological liar and mentally ill, and wants to be the "owner" of an esports team. I can't believe so many people have fell for it after the wealth of information of all his past scams. There are millions of people who believe homeopathy was legit. Not to say what billions believe to be legit. Just saying... a little confirmation bias and greed can go a long way to ignore or neglect looking for evidence to the contrary. | ||
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jdsowa
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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wattabeast
United States957 Posts
On September 07 2012 08:42 Blackfoger wrote: See right there misquoting what he said it was in a Audio interview and he said he saw it on an online email transcript. Then again he had not posted any of the proof thus it's a running "gag" If we shut down operations we can't pay off debt because we have source of revenue. Think of it this way, we have sponsors that pay say 1500 a month and we only use 1000 of that for players. We are not accumulating more debt we use the extra 500 a month to pay old expenses. Our current plan is slowly working well, we will be announcing another sponsor shortly that will help our teams. With this new company can work to progress quicker but if people email them it causes us to go backwords. OK, so now that it is confirmed that you guys don't make any money from sponsors, how come you just said that you make 1500$/month from sponsors? That's a lie right there... And then even if somehow dolby was miscommunicating with the public (extremely unlikely.... .0000000001%), the 500$ in between 1k player salaries and money made is meant to go to player TRAVEL, not personal debt... that money is not profit, as you still have to pay players to go to events, and clearly 1k/month is not accurate for player salaries anyways, as Crane must be making a few hundred a month, and Cyto was looking for 800 euros per month, so you are clearly lying to them about that... seems to me like a game of jenga, you pull a piece out of your parents credit card money, pay it to one player that month, tell the other players that their cash is a "little late", then hope that the whole jenga block doesnt' come crashing down on you. | ||
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Zedromas
Canada112 Posts
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Brasi
United States12 Posts
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EliteSK
Korea (South)251 Posts
On September 11 2012 08:08 wattabeast wrote: OK, so now that it is confirmed that you guys don't make any money from sponsors, how come you just said that you make 1500$/month from sponsors? That's a lie right there... And then even if somehow dolby was miscommunicating with the public (extremely unlikely.... .0000000001%), the 500$ in between 1k player salaries and money made is meant to go to player TRAVEL, not personal debt... that money is not profit, as you still have to pay players to go to events, and clearly 1k/month is not accurate for player salaries anyways, as Crane must be making a few hundred a month, and Cyto was looking for 800 euros per month, so you are clearly lying to them about that... seems to me like a game of jenga, you pull a piece out of your parents credit card money, pay it to one player that month, tell the other players that their cash is a "little late", then hope that the whole jenga block doesnt' come crashing down on you. Not trying to defend him here but the 1500/month example was merely an example he used to explain how he plans to pay off his outstanding debt. Not saying that it's a good plan/valid plan but he used it as an example, so you're attacking him on the wrong basis. He also has not publicly released any concrete info on the amount of revenue and expenses he/his team has. That being said, from the info posted here we can pretty much sum up he has no capital provided by sponsors and according to him, all of it comes from his own pocket and "private investors." | ||
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dearyuna
United States322 Posts
On September 07 2012 07:07 Blackfoger wrote: I think I covered everything http://blightgaming.com/2012/09/06/607/#.UEkedpbi-L0 Our players know our history they have had people message them, they have talke to our current teams and some of our old teams. That being said none of them want to leave us currently they are however being cautious which is 100% understood. LOL you make me sick to my stomach when I hear bs like this from you. How dare you try to scam innocent hardworking players and then try to cover up your tracks. Like I mentioned previously, Crane did NOT know about your team history, nor did he talk to a translator, nor did he have his contract translated into Korean like any other respectable team would. I have proof, but it's kind of stupid dragging an innocent player into the drama. On September 07 2012 02:27 VirgilSC2 wrote: Just for some standpoint as to how delusional Blackfoger has gotten, the list of players he mentioned to me he was looking at acquiring are:  CoCaLife inoriYongHwa^ that's so LOL by the way. Inori?! lolol over my dead body. This Blackfoger guy is so freaking ridiculous. | ||
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Antimatterz
United States1010 Posts
On September 11 2012 12:28 dearyuna wrote: WOW PLEASE LIE MORE. LOL you make me sick to my stomach when I hear bs like this from you. How dare you try to scam innocent hardworking players and then try to cover up your tracks. Like I mentioned previously, Crane did NOT know about your team history, nor did he talk to a translator, nor did he have his contract translated into Korean like any other respectable team would. I have proof, but it's kind of stupid dragging an innocent player into the drama. ^ that's so LOL by the way. Inori?! lolol over my dead body. This Blackfoger guy is so freaking ridiculous. None of those players strike me as someone who would leave their current team. This guy is a scam like none other. | ||
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JagerGard
Sweden135 Posts
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gronnelg
Norway354 Posts
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RuMCaKe
United States559 Posts
Hope you have at least 3-4 months of these guys salaries already stashed away in some bank account so you don't rip off some poor kid that doesn't even speak your language. One day maybe you will get a clue that being dishonest to people, isn't the easiest way to achieve long term success, despite the very, very, very, short term gain you seem to get on a regular basis. IE having some new player for 2 weeks before they bail. | ||
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zaxx
United States66 Posts
On September 11 2012 15:33 RuMCaKe wrote: BF, you wanna pay me the rest of the money you owe me why your at it? I mean its only from Columbus last year and with all your new recent success I could only imagine you can afford the 800 dollars difference that came out of my pocket. I gave you an honest chance, made a fair deal, and you were unable to follow through. I however do think you at least wanted to, you just weren't able to deliver. Hope you have at least 3-4 months of these guys salaries already stashed away in some bank account so you don't rip off some poor kid that doesn't even speak your language. One day maybe you will get a clue that being dishonest to people, isn't the easiest way to achieve long term success, despite the very, very, very, short term gain you seem to get on a regular basis. IE having some new player for 2 weeks before they bail. Spoken very well. Another prominent business person/manager coming to this thread to share his experience with Blight. Another person Blackfoger owes money to, and RuM is even in the SC2 community just like the rest of us on TL.net. Just another person James Larson fails to prioritize over his dream at e-Fame. At some point this guy has to be held accountable for everything he has done rather than be given a 16th [hypothetical] chance at a situation that we can all predict the end result of. I think that is why his partners and sponsors should be aware of the person they are doing business with. Just wish there was a way to accomplish that without risking alienating them from the scene altogether. But, if you think about it, a bad experience with Blight (which will happen inevitably) will discourage them from the industry regardless. Which is the lesser of the two evils? | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
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Adrenaline789
United States1 Post
I know he contributed a fair amount to zomblerz (good friends with pham who was apart of the team) with a small salary and travel to an ESEA lan. As far as all these issues with him I cant say that they arent true but I think and hope that he is just trying to contribute to esports. Everyone deserves a second chance, I just hope he doesnt blow it within the sc2 community and makes promises to players that he immediately can fulfill | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On September 11 2012 16:58 Adrenaline789 wrote: At ESEA Lan S5 I remember talking to him and he told me he won a settlement with some medical problem from a crash or something and was getting paid a large amount for it. He seemed like a good, genuine hearted kid when i met him, although much younger than I expected. At the time he was trying to pay for a teams league fee in an attempt to not just be on the roster but actually play(he was young and wanted to play 1.6 at the highest level, cant blame him for that). I know he contributed a fair amount to zomblerz (good friends with pham who was apart of the team) with a small salary and travel to an ESEA lan. As far as all these issues with him I cant say that they arent true but I think and hope that he is just trying to contribute to esports. Everyone deserves a second chance, I just hope he doesnt blow it within the sc2 community and makes promises to players that he immediately can fulfill You made a new acc just for this :/ | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On September 11 2012 16:58 Adrenaline789 wrote: At ESEA Lan S5 I remember talking to him and he told me he won a settlement with some medical problem from a crash or something and was getting paid a large amount for it. He seemed like a good, genuine hearted kid when i met him, although much younger than I expected. At the time he was trying to pay for a teams league fee in an attempt to not just be on the roster but actually play(he was young and wanted to play 1.6 at the highest level, cant blame him for that). I know he contributed a fair amount to zomblerz (good friends with pham who was apart of the team) with a small salary and travel to an ESEA lan. As far as all these issues with him I cant say that they arent true but I think and hope that he is just trying to contribute to esports. Everyone deserves a second chance, I just hope he doesnt blow it within the sc2 community and makes promises to players that he immediately can fulfill A 2nd chance yeah, not a 15th or 20th chance. He's still shady as fuck, still lies about shit and dodges questions. He's had more chances than he deserves and it's about time he gets the fuck out of pretending to be part of esports. | ||
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