EPTGood watch and very nicely done by CNN.
CNN does a video profile inside the life of Mvp
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Fionn
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Good watch and very nicely done by CNN. | ||
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Klipsys
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Wrathsc2
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Thylacine
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phodacbiet
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GinDo
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Nice video. | ||
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Verror
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eviltomahawk
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And it would've been my thread if it hadn't been for you meddling kids  | ||
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iky43210
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:28 iky43210 wrote: I see snipes, must be very old. Isn't CNN suppose to be a NEWS network? Most of the clips are from last year's WCG, so they're obviously using outdated footage. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
 Ouch lost by a hair Fionn! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/z6WQ1.png) | ||
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sTrike17
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Kazeyonoma
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Verror
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another video by CNN about gaming in south korea, but in a more negative light. Features MKP and tasteless some. | ||
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saksy2
Norway520 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:34 Verror wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ClBeaT4chA&feature=relmfu another video by CNN about gaming in south korea, but in a more negative light. Features MKP and tasteless some. HAHAHAHA "Tasteless 9" @ 7:10 | ||
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Rachnar
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phodacbiet
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Dodgin
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Okee
Sweden54 Posts
I wish they would have gotten more shots of the emotions going through a crowd when a tense and epic game is decided, and the emotion of a player after winning or losing a truly important match, to show the world how seriously this is actually taken by those involved. I also saw no mention of the huge following the esport has, especially in south korea, and there was no mention of the large cash prizes either. Both which could show people not familiar with esports just how huge it is growing. I am however glad that at least it all was done in a positive light. | ||
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Blazinghand
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EdenPLusDucky
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On August 03 2012 08:34 Verror wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ClBeaT4chA&feature=relmfu another video by CNN about gaming in south korea, but in a more negative light. Features MKP and tasteless some. They kind of overexaggerated the part with the suicidal guy and made me not take the video seriously after that. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Sean Plott = Day[9] Nick Plott = Tasteless[9] | ||
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Awesomeness
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Farmer Poopy
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ragz_gt
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I nearly missed that thinking "OMG! MKP's sister!" | ||
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StateofReverie
United States633 Posts
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Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:47 EdenPLusDucky wrote: They kind of overexaggerated the part with the suicidal guy and made me not take the video seriously after that. It's not that bad really, it shows both sides of the argument and says that there is a difference between competitive gaming and gaming addicts. That scene where they show the therapy for a gaming/internet addiction really reminded me of "a clockwork orange" btw. :D | ||
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Meatloaf
Spain664 Posts
Tasteless defended Esports there like a boss , GJ! | ||
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nadafanboy42
Netherlands209 Posts
On August 03 2012 09:11 Awesomeness wrote: It's not that bad really, it shows both sides of the argument and says that there is a difference between competitive gaming and gaming addicts. That scene where they show the therapy for a gaming/internet addiction really reminded me of "a clockwork orange" btw. :D It's not that bad, but it's still bad. Do documentaries about tennis show 'tennis addicts', do documentaries about violinists show 'violin addicts'? When someone spends all day playing the piano people go 'look how dedicated and hard-working they are', but when they spend all day playing videogames it suddenly becomes 'oh my god that crazy addict'! The MVP one is much better eSports-wise. That said I do think videogame addiction is a real thing, and something worth discussing. But not in the context of eSports, and definitely not in the way mainstream media has been doing. | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
It sucks having to see it in negative light sometimes though. | ||
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ragz_gt
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On August 03 2012 09:39 SHOOG wrote: I like seeing the exposure esports is getting. It sucks having to see it in negative light sometimes though. It's better than the FOX one at least... | ||
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ArcticRaven
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bakedace
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ODKStevez
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Demonhunter04
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MarCoon
Germany493 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:48 MCDayC wrote: hahahahah Tasteless 9 in the other video, I like that. 9 must be the online version of Plott. Sean Plott = Day[9] Nick Plott = Tasteless[9] [9] was actually a very old bw clan with people like [9]eVERLAST in it. Both Sean and Nick weren't a part of it, but liked the tag very much so they used it in their bw times | ||
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Wuster
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On August 03 2012 09:26 nadafanboy42 wrote: It's not that bad, but it's still bad. Do documentaries about tennis show 'tennis addicts', do documentaries about violinists show 'violin addicts'? When someone spends all day playing the piano people go 'look how dedicated and hard-working they are', but when they spend all day playing videogames it suddenly becomes 'oh my god that crazy addict'! The MVP one is much better eSports-wise. That said I do think videogame addiction is a real thing, and something worth discussing. But not in the context of eSports, and definitely not in the way mainstream media has been doing. I think you're being overly defensive. There is such a thing as internet and gaming addiction. There's no such thing as Tennis addiction. Of course the problem for those involved is separating addiction from hobby and competition and career. The story doesn't try to draw a connection between eSports and addiction either, in fact it called eSports the bright side to mass-gaming (for lack of a better term). Plus, the prevention center was about engaging with the internet and games without losing control, not avoiding them altogether. Anyways, my favorite part was where MKP's middle school cut off internet because too many kids were watching him play instead of going back to class (crowd favorite from the beginning I see!). | ||
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Makro
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
YAAAAY RANDOM TASTELESS CAMEO!! At the end, holding up the flag, that's Mvp, MarineKing, aaaaand... who (on the left)? O_o | ||
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shindigs
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ragz_gt
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On August 03 2012 10:31 cLAN.Anax wrote: Well huh. Something from CNN that I find worthy of watching. X-D YAAAAY RANDOM TASTELESS CAMEO!! At the end, holding up the flag, that's Mvp, MarineKing, aaaaand... who (on the left)? O_o SuperNoVa | ||
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chocopan
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hkf
Australia354 Posts
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
Aaaaooooohhhh, you're right. Thought he looked familiar. Thanks. :-3 | ||
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Maxd11
United States680 Posts
I thought he was right when he said that players that are addicted aren't really competitive but I don't live in Korea so I don't really know. | ||
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Flossy
United States870 Posts
1. This is way better than a news article from a couple years back on BW. I got so angry when the lady said players control 1 of 3 tribes?!? 2. They should have done Nestea instead and got Artosis on. nuff said | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
Ah, they were the days when we were looking at the undisputed best player in sc2. I don't know how long it will be until we see someone that far above again. So far this year there's no standout dominator. A lot of the players I thought would carry this year (MVP, DRG, MMA, MKP) haven't been at a consistently dominating level so far. Anyway, on topic (MVP) it was a nice news piece. I was sort of hoping they'd bring up his injury but it was sort of at the time where he was only starting to first mention it in interviews so I guess not. I really hope that he's getting it all sorted, given that he's not travelling to IPL TAC grand finals it feels like he must be at home for that very reason. | ||
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mango_destroyer
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iiGreetings
Canada563 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:34 Verror wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ClBeaT4chA&feature=relmfu another video by CNN about gaming in south korea, but in a more negative light. Features MKP and tasteless some. "marineking hasnt made it to the top of the players..." when this was shot he had already been a silver medalist in code s? | ||
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Treyus
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CeriseCherries
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On August 03 2012 11:03 iiGreetings wrote: "marineking hasnt made it to the top of the players..." when this was shot he had already been a silver medalist in code s? idra did their research #hue | ||
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leviathan400
United Kingdom393 Posts
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
Also Mvp was friggin adorable as a kid. | ||
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HornyHydra
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jobber123rd
United States501 Posts
On August 03 2012 11:03 iiGreetings wrote: "marineking hasnt made it to the top of the players..." when this was shot he had already been a silver medalist in code s? Top tier, yes, but "the top" as in #1, or having won a premier tournament, no. Sort of like Andy Murray in tennis. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:26 Wuster wrote: I think you're being overly defensive. There is such a thing as internet and gaming addiction. There's no such thing as Tennis addiction. Of course the problem for those involved is separating addiction from hobby and competition and career. The story doesn't try to draw a connection between eSports and addiction either, in fact it called eSports the bright side to mass-gaming (for lack of a better term). Plus, the prevention center was about engaging with the internet and games without losing control, not avoiding them altogether. Anyways, my favorite part was where MKP's middle school cut off internet because too many kids were watching him play instead of going back to class (crowd favorite from the beginning I see!). you can definitely get addicted to sports and exercising, much rarer than video games addictions for sure but its definitely a problem for some people. those people get high off of it, and shows almost all addiction signs. End up exerting themselves that it hurts them physically and mentally. | ||
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Zealot Lord
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NOOBALOPSE
Canada802 Posts
IdrA, HuK, iNcontroL, Grubby, DRG, Sheth, NaNiWa, WhiteRa, and maybe DeMusliM? I just noticed that 4 of these are EG players... o.o Just a small comment, when you show shots of the game, make it look exciting and make sure that the player's race is in the screen and that a Terran player (because it was Mvp who was in the documentary) was the one selecting the units etc. and doing whatever. | ||
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dragoon
United States695 Posts
On August 03 2012 11:23 jobber123rd wrote: Top tier, yes, but "the top" as in #1, or having won a premier tournament, no. Sort of like Andy Murray in tennis. oh wow, that was a really good analogy | ||
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Trasko
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publicenemies
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MarineKing sister is pretty hot.. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On August 03 2012 11:26 iky43210 wrote: you can definitely get addicted to sports and exercising, much rarer than video games addictions for sure but its definitely a problem for some people. those people get high off of it, and shows almost all addiction signs. End up exerting themselves that it hurts them physically and mentally. Preeeetty much, people can get addicted to virtually ANYTHING. | ||
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Torte de Lini
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zuperketla
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Yoshi Kirishima
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Lumi
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FinalForm
United States450 Posts
but damn mvp you could have ran a bit on the treadmill lol | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10325 Posts
first of all the narrator's voice gets annoying with all the random pauses <_> Anyways... Tasteless says there is a difference between addicted gamers and competitive gamers, and that addicted gamers cannot truly be competitive. The narrator goes on to say that's not always true, and that there are a range of addicted gamers between the professional and amateur level... I guess CNN didn't understand (from that quote) that Tasteless was trying to just point out that competitive gamers are not all addicted gamers, but many are simply dedicated (as he says elsewhere) to mastering the intellectual games. At least, that's how I see it. Tasteless meant competitive gamer as in a gamer who is dedicated to being a professional gamer, while CNN seemed to interpret it in that quote as a "good" or "skilled" gamer (and that you can be "skilled" in games that you can't beat but are neither intellectual like Starcraft). | ||
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Ritchie
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GT350
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zerger420
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10325 Posts
On August 03 2012 12:13 GTR wrote: nothing will ever eclipse the xellos national geographic documentary. Agreed! NG's documentary (in both length and quality) trumps all by far. I hope they make another one soon, now that eSports has grown a lot (that documentary was 7 years ago, which is a lot for eSports since eSports is relatively very new). In that documentary, i got the impression that people were still prize hunting and many practiced uncomfortably (looking at SC2 practice houses these days, they are much better). I mean, people still do prize hunt and such today, but there are many more sponsorships, and progamers today can make a lot of money coaching/streaming, which is additional revenue on top of their already steady salaries, paid-for-food/water/shelter/electricity/etc., tournament winnings, public appearances, modeling, etc. The only real thing I can criticize about NG's documentary is that I don't think they made it clear how much exactly they were living on. I don't know if this was intentional or if it was to make the documentary more interesting (passionate people working with little reward) and xello's story more amazing, but I got the impression that they were living almost completely on prize money alone. With winning only $20,000 or so with Xello's gold for 1 year, and the money being shared... seemed very very little to me once you spread it around ~10-15 people. You could look at this as a good or bad thing; it shows how passionate these people are but also gives an impression that the scene is very "small" and maybe not even "serious" when what seems to be the greatest tournament (WCG) only gives ~$20,000 to one starcraft progamer. | ||
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Goldfish
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On August 03 2012 08:34 Verror wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ClBeaT4chA&feature=relmfu another video by CNN about gaming in south korea, but in a more negative light. Features MKP and tasteless some. Wow they got Tasteless again! Also you should watch it. There's a MarineKing bio in the middle and it's not negative (it's good). MPK fans should definitely watch that video for MKP . | ||
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monitor
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
On August 03 2012 12:13 GTR wrote: nothing will ever eclipse the xellos national geographic documentary. That was an awesome documentary, but National Geographic made a name on documentaries. CNN did a a good job putting together a nice piece about MVP. I would love to see them do one at an MLG to show that foreign scene is really big too! | ||
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Hypemeup
Sweden2783 Posts
To bad MVPs injury is holding him back, seems like all the best and most dominating players in the world gets injured at some point or another. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 03 2012 12:13 GTR wrote: nothing will ever eclipse the xellos national geographic documentary. THAT was sick but it's nice seeing this generation getting some attention. | ||
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whodat92
United States48 Posts
On August 03 2012 11:27 NOOBALOPSE wrote: Other players good for documentaries: IdrA, HuK, iNcontroL, Grubby, DRG, Sheth, NaNiWa, WhiteRa, and maybe DeMusliM? I just noticed that 4 of these are EG players... o.o Just a small comment, when you show shots of the game, make it look exciting and make sure that the player's race is in the screen and that a Terran player (because it was Mvp who was in the documentary) was the one selecting the units etc. and doing whatever. Grubby would be great for a documentary, especially if/when he goes to China. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On August 03 2012 10:31 cLAN.Anax wrote: Well huh. Something from CNN that I find worthy of watching. X-D YAAAAY RANDOM TASTELESS CAMEO!! At the end, holding up the flag, that's Mvp, MarineKing, aaaaand... who (on the left)? O_o  EffOrt experimented in cloning. Unfortunately, the result was a Terran player. | ||
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swim224
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On August 03 2012 08:34 Verror wrote: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ClBeaT4chA&feature=relmfu another video by CNN about gaming in south korea, but in a more negative light. Features MKP and tasteless some. WOAH WOAHWOAH WOAH MKP's cute sister spotted at 6:46. And MKP's bio is very interesting and enlightening. | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
That kind of mistake just makes this video a joke. Really insulting to see how CNN could make such a glaring mistake. Clearly shows how little they actually care about the topic | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On August 03 2012 09:49 bakedace wrote: Well done. The gaming addiction video is silly but I didn't expect anything different. How is it silly? It differentiates gaming addiction and competitive gaming. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10325 Posts
On August 03 2012 13:41 MasterKang wrote: That kind of mistake just makes this video a joke. Really insulting to see how CNN could make such a glaring mistake. Clearly shows how little they actually care about the topic LOL just noticed that... how could they make such a messed up mistake? I can't think of where they got the 9 from. I mean, obviously there's day9 and they're brothers, but... where did they get "tasteless 9" from? | ||
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1682 Posts
On August 03 2012 13:12 eviltomahawk wrote: EffOrt experimented in cloning. Unfortunately, the result was a Terran player.SUPAHHHNOVAAHHHH | ||
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hiyo_bye
United States737 Posts
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Shellshock
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Brutaxilos
United States2624 Posts
On August 03 2012 13:23 eviltomahawk wrote: WOAH WOAHWOAH WOAH MKP's cute sister spotted at 6:46. And MKP's bio is very interesting and enlightening. Baby MKP is much cuter. <3333 6:44 | ||
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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Novalisk
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LeLfe
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DarkPlasmaBall
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Cuce
Turkey1127 Posts
whats about with shots of tasteless over there | ||
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Blennd
United States266 Posts
On August 03 2012 14:11 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: LOL just noticed that... how could they make such a messed up mistake? I can't think of where they got the 9 from. I mean, obviously there's day9 and they're brothers, but... where did they get "tasteless 9" from? They're brothers, so they have the same last name. And that last name is 9. That's better logic than most of what you'll find on CNN actually. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On August 03 2012 11:26 iky43210 wrote: you can definitely get addicted to sports and exercising, much rarer than video games addictions for sure but its definitely a problem for some people. those people get high off of it, and shows almost all addiction signs. End up exerting themselves that it hurts them physically and mentally. You're right, I glossed it over because clinically it's so much rarer than gaming/internet addiction (although most expercts are only guestimating and starting to accept that game/internet addiction is a real thing so the numbers could be quite inflated there too). I mean therer's that lady addicted to sun-tanning, but she's probably the only one in the US, so ya, anything you can think of there's probably someone who's clinically addicted to it. | ||
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