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publicenemies
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
458 Posts
August 03 2012 02:37 GMT
#61
On August 03 2012 08:37 saksy2 wrote:
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On August 03 2012 08:34 Verror wrote:


another video by CNN about gaming in south korea, but in a more negative light. Features MKP and tasteless some.

HAHAHAHA "Tasteless 9" @ 7:10

MarineKing sister is pretty hot..
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 03 2012 02:38 GMT
#62
On August 03 2012 11:26 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 10:26 Wuster wrote:
On August 03 2012 09:26 nadafanboy42 wrote:
On August 03 2012 09:11 Awesomeness wrote:
On August 03 2012 08:47 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
On August 03 2012 08:34 Verror wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ClBeaT4chA&feature=relmfu

another video by CNN about gaming in south korea, but in a more negative light. Features MKP and tasteless some.


They kind of overexaggerated the part with the suicidal guy and made me not take the video seriously after that.


It's not that bad really, it shows both sides of the argument and says that there is a difference between competitive gaming and gaming addicts.

That scene where they show the therapy for a gaming/internet addiction really reminded me of "a clockwork orange" btw. :D

It's not that bad, but it's still bad. Do documentaries about tennis show 'tennis addicts', do documentaries about violinists show 'violin addicts'? When someone spends all day playing the piano people go 'look how dedicated and hard-working they are', but when they spend all day playing videogames it suddenly becomes 'oh my god that crazy addict'! The MVP one is much better eSports-wise.
That said I do think videogame addiction is a real thing, and something worth discussing. But not in the context of eSports, and definitely not in the way mainstream media has been doing.



I think you're being overly defensive. There is such a thing as internet and gaming addiction. There's no such thing as Tennis addiction. Of course the problem for those involved is separating addiction from hobby and competition and career. The story doesn't try to draw a connection between eSports and addiction either, in fact it called eSports the bright side to mass-gaming (for lack of a better term). Plus, the prevention center was about engaging with the internet and games without losing control, not avoiding them altogether.

Anyways, my favorite part was where MKP's middle school cut off internet because too many kids were watching him play instead of going back to class (crowd favorite from the beginning I see!).


you can definitely get addicted to sports and exercising, much rarer than video games addictions for sure but its definitely a problem for some people.

those people get high off of it, and shows almost all addiction signs. End up exerting themselves that it hurts them physically and mentally.

Preeeetty much, people can get addicted to virtually ANYTHING.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 03 2012 02:47 GMT
#63
Great stuff.
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zuperketla
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway212 Posts
August 03 2012 02:49 GMT
#64
this is awesome
heyho
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10373 Posts
August 03 2012 02:54 GMT
#65
Wow nice video CNN! Hurray for an actually good documentary (respects esports, etc. etc., and is accurate) from a news channel (let alone anything) from CNN :D
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
August 03 2012 02:55 GMT
#66
Yeah, this is great for eSports
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FinalForm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
August 03 2012 03:04 GMT
#67
Great coverage! Glad they didnt have to include a kid dying of exhausion or portray gamers as obese kids living with their parents. Great emphasis on the legitimacy and professionalsim of esports

but damn mvp you could have ran a bit on the treadmill lol
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10373 Posts
August 03 2012 03:07 GMT
#68
About the addiction video

first of all the narrator's voice gets annoying with all the random pauses <_>

Anyways...

Tasteless says there is a difference between addicted gamers and competitive gamers, and that addicted gamers cannot truly be competitive. The narrator goes on to say that's not always true, and that there are a range of addicted gamers between the professional and amateur level... I guess CNN didn't understand (from that quote) that Tasteless was trying to just point out that competitive gamers are not all addicted gamers, but many are simply dedicated (as he says elsewhere) to mastering the intellectual games. At least, that's how I see it. Tasteless meant competitive gamer as in a gamer who is dedicated to being a professional gamer, while CNN seemed to interpret it in that quote as a "good" or "skilled" gamer (and that you can be "skilled" in games that you can't beat but are neither intellectual like Starcraft).
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Ritchie
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada206 Posts
August 03 2012 03:11 GMT
#69
I don't really feel like they did a great job at this because they are CNN. The title is kind of mis-leading. This documentary doesn't provide much of the perspectives of pro-gamers at all. I feel like they just do it because they want to do something to increase the diversity in the general topic: gaming in South Korea. Or maybe I have watched too much starcraft and interview to feel that this is not informative? Maybe!
After all, we just want to be happy, don't we?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51619 Posts
August 03 2012 03:13 GMT
#70
nothing will ever eclipse the xellos national geographic documentary.
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GT350
Profile Joined May 2012
United States270 Posts
August 03 2012 03:17 GMT
#71
Finally we're getting mainstream attention.
zerger420
Profile Joined April 2012
30 Posts
August 03 2012 03:18 GMT
#72
OP could use a little more substance.
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
August 03 2012 03:21 GMT
#73
Wow, this is freakin pretty awesome. Gj Mvp, for SC2!
Mmm, what to watch.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10373 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 03:30:48
August 03 2012 03:25 GMT
#74
On August 03 2012 12:13 GTR wrote:
nothing will ever eclipse the xellos national geographic documentary.


Agreed! NG's documentary (in both length and quality) trumps all by far. I hope they make another one soon, now that eSports has grown a lot (that documentary was 7 years ago, which is a lot for eSports since eSports is relatively very new).

In that documentary, i got the impression that people were still prize hunting and many practiced uncomfortably (looking at SC2 practice houses these days, they are much better). I mean, people still do prize hunt and such today, but there are many more sponsorships, and progamers today can make a lot of money coaching/streaming, which is additional revenue on top of their already steady salaries, paid-for-food/water/shelter/electricity/etc., tournament winnings, public appearances, modeling, etc. The only real thing I can criticize about NG's documentary is that I don't think they made it clear how much exactly they were living on. I don't know if this was intentional or if it was to make the documentary more interesting (passionate people working with little reward) and xello's story more amazing, but I got the impression that they were living almost completely on prize money alone. With winning only $20,000 or so with Xello's gold for 1 year, and the money being shared... seemed very very little to me once you spread it around ~10-15 people. You could look at this as a good or bad thing; it shows how passionate these people are but also gives an impression that the scene is very "small" and maybe not even "serious" when what seems to be the greatest tournament (WCG) only gives ~$20,000 to one starcraft progamer.
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
August 03 2012 03:25 GMT
#75
On August 03 2012 08:34 Verror wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ClBeaT4chA&feature=relmfu

another video by CNN about gaming in south korea, but in a more negative light. Features MKP and tasteless some.


Wow they got Tasteless again!

Also you should watch it. There's a MarineKing bio in the middle and it's not negative (it's good).

MPK fans should definitely watch that video for MKP .
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monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2409 Posts
August 03 2012 03:38 GMT
#76
Its cool that CNN is doing this. I also enjoyed watching the one about whether or not gaming is an addiction. To me its somewhat similar to asking "are people adding to work" or "are olympians addicted to training". But I do believe that being a pro-gamer isn't a very healthy lifestyle and I can understand why people can confused actual addicts from the competitive pro-gamers.
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
August 03 2012 03:50 GMT
#77
On August 03 2012 12:13 GTR wrote:
nothing will ever eclipse the xellos national geographic documentary.



That was an awesome documentary, but National Geographic made a name on documentaries. CNN did a a good job putting together a nice piece about MVP. I would love to see them do one at an MLG to show that foreign scene is really big too!
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
August 03 2012 03:55 GMT
#78
Tasteless looked so handsome in this.

To bad MVPs injury is holding him back, seems like all the best and most dominating players in the world gets injured at some point or another.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 03 2012 03:56 GMT
#79
On August 03 2012 12:13 GTR wrote:
nothing will ever eclipse the xellos national geographic documentary.

THAT was sick but it's nice seeing this generation getting some attention.
whodat92
Profile Joined September 2011
United States48 Posts
August 03 2012 04:12 GMT
#80
On August 03 2012 11:27 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Other players good for documentaries:
IdrA, HuK, iNcontroL, Grubby, DRG, Sheth, NaNiWa, WhiteRa, and maybe DeMusliM?
I just noticed that 4 of these are EG players... o.o

Just a small comment, when you show shots of the game, make it look exciting and make sure that the player's race is in the screen and that a Terran player (because it was Mvp who was in the documentary) was the one selecting the units etc. and doing whatever.


Grubby would be great for a documentary, especially if/when he goes to China.
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