while its amazing you play like this at that level, i dont think you can come anywhere close to the speed and precision of a good mouse. >__< i'd like to see a video of the joystick zerg in action though hahaha

AngryFarmer

United States560 Posts

June 15 2012 17:09 GMT

#86

Wow reminds me of my friend that plays DOTA well with a track pad. ppl these days are too epic man

Karthane

United States1183 Posts

June 15 2012 17:10 GMT

#87

Wow that is strange. Would love to see a video

DarKcS

Australia1237 Posts

June 15 2012 17:10 GMT

#88

lol nice troll OP :X

Pimpmuckl

Germany528 Posts

June 15 2012 17:12 GMT

#89

Too obvious, still a pretty funneh idea

Sapphire.lux

Romania2620 Posts

June 15 2012 17:16 GMT

#90

On June 16 2012 02:12 Pimpmuckl wrote:
Too obvious, still a pretty funneh idea

Not obvious enough though lol

Wander if you could add kinect. How fast can you say "s-pause-z z z z z z z z z ..."

sVnteen

Germany2238 Posts

June 15 2012 17:18 GMT

#91

that sounds awesome

video plssssss

From Afar

United States19 Posts

June 15 2012 17:19 GMT

#92

For people saying it's a troll,
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Extreme-Joystick-Silver-Black/dp/B00009OY9U
It exists, and I don't see what's stopping someone for using it for Starcraft.

EchoZ

Japan5041 Posts

June 15 2012 17:21 GMT

#93

On June 16 2012 00:49 Terrorcore wrote:

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Laughed really hard at this. Thank you for making my day.

LOLOLOL. Dam..

FliedLice

Germany7494 Posts

June 15 2012 17:22 GMT

#94

So Joysticks DO exist?

Najda

United States3765 Posts

June 15 2012 17:22 GMT

#95

On June 16 2012 02:19 From Afar wrote:
For people saying it's a troll,
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Extreme-Joystick-Silver-Black/dp/B00009OY9U
It exists, and I don't see what's stopping someone for using it for Starcraft.

No one was doubting the existence of the joystick, but rather the practicality of the application.

pallad

Poland1958 Posts

June 15 2012 17:22 GMT

#96

Someone belive it ? common..-_-

bhfberserk

Canada390 Posts

June 15 2012 17:23 GMT

#97

Clicking the mini map at bottom left, then back to main screen microing some units would be troublesome.
Who knows, maybe OP actually pwn with it

Hoon

Brazil891 Posts

June 15 2012 17:23 GMT

#98

On June 16 2012 01:54 MVega wrote:

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On June 16 2012 01:16 Hoon wrote:

On June 16 2012 01:12 Fyrewolf wrote:

On June 16 2012 00:58 Hoon wrote:

On June 16 2012 00:44 Fyrewolf wrote:

On June 16 2012 00:25 Hoon wrote:

On June 16 2012 00:21 Fyrewolf wrote:
It looks like fun.

But as to your question as to whether it's faster/better: No.

The inherent design of mouse movement vs stick movement means the mouse will ALWAYS be faster and more accurate than a stick.

Oh wow that's some pretty serious analysis man.
You should make an article or something that shows the difference and proves that mouse is actually better than the joystick.

I don't have to because it's well-known fact. But since you don't seem to understand.

For controlling a cursor, a stick is inherently mechanically worse than a mouse. A stick must be held in a direction and WAIT for the cursor to scroll to the desired destination. The position you want to hit is based on the amount of time the stick was held. + Show Spoiler +

(which is why sticks often have acceleration to try to compensate, which mouse users often hate because it screws with their mechanic)

A mouse must simply move a set distance from it's position to get to the desired destination. + Show Spoiler +

(the distance gets screwed by acceleration, hence why mouse users often don't like it)

Being able to pinpoint move the mouse say, 1.5 inches, for it's desired destination is more accurate and faster than holding the stick and waiting say, .5 seconds, for a cursor to scroll there. As I said, the inherent design, the non-relative mechanic of estimating distance vs the relative mechanic of estimating time, means the mouse will always be more accurate and faster.

But moving the mouse to the left and the stick to the left is the same thing and ends with the same result.
Do you have any actual proof that stick movement is slower than mouse movement?

I just explained how they are not the same thing, a different process to achieve the desired result (which both users wanted to do anyway), and how one of those processes is less accurate. I haven't heard of many studies that focused specifically on speed, and a joystick could have a high sensitivity and/or acceleration, but the process is inherently less accurate, which is far more important than speed. "It's not about clicking things fast; it's about clicking things at the right time" -Day[9]

@humanimal A mouse can move circularly too. Also, extra mouse buttons can give access to key spells if you want. Can the joystick control everything on its own, for 1 peripheral? I see no place for camera keys and the like on the joystick. Or did you mean jouse+joystick instead of mouse+keyboard? And no I am not from Romania.

Yeah, you explained that it is more accurate, but I could explain you how birds can breed dogs, but it doesn't make it true.
I bet a pong player has more accuracy in his game with a stick than with a mouse.

Say I want to move the in-game cursor to a specific point, with a mouse all I have to do is move the mouse slightly. The position of the cursor is controlled by the movement of the mouse. Mouse movement is pretty much instant. With a stick however it doesn't matter if you tilt it slightly or if you tilt it as hard/far as you can you still have to wait. That's just the nature of a stick and the nature of a mouse. :/

Now you are discussing speed, no accuracy.
And no, the mouse movement is not instant.
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I'm outta here, enough trolling for me.

PanN

United States2828 Posts

June 15 2012 17:26 GMT

#99

A troll is someone that goes out of their way to bait people in order to start a shitstorm.

This is not a troll. This is someone messing around. Know the difference! The more you know!