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Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 15:18:42
June 01 2012 15:16 GMT
#201
They be taking our women!

Xenophobia like that is common in much of Asia so it's not like it's surprising.


Everywhere. It's everywhere.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
June 01 2012 15:19 GMT
#202
On June 01 2012 23:10 DwD wrote:
Oh look. There are racists even in korea. I know Japan has a real problem with hate towards foreigners sad to see it's widespread


Just wanted to jump in on this - Japan doesn't have a real problem with hatred towards foreigners. If it did it wouldn't sponsor the immigration of tens of thousands of foreign workers to work in their schools. I've also been treated very kindly by most of the people I actually met in Japan in my time there. There are those who do mistrust and fear foreigners in Japan, and there is an undercurrent in society of groups who will spread lies and malicious propaganda about foreigners, but thankfully it isn't a mainstream thing.

It looks to be more of a problem in Korea if this kind of thing is being shown on national television - that said people I know who have lived in Korea have had both good and bad experiences with native Koreans. The video itself was shockingly bad as journalism and didn't actually present anything close to a fact in the whole piece - it seemed to take for granted that you the viewer thought of foreigners as bad and mixed-race couples as a terrible thing. What gets me is when they say these poor, dumb Korean women being stolen by those evil forriners have no-one to complain to. What about the real victims of this piece, the foreigners living in Korea? Who do they complain to about racial stereotyping, slander and the outright lies in this piece - am I right in thinking foreign teachers working in Korea have to be checked for HIV/AIDS?
You live the life you choose.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 15:26:46
June 01 2012 15:22 GMT
#203
On June 01 2012 23:28 unbal3 wrote:
Um... I just should say..
This video is a lot less xenophobic than some people are taking it to be.

Keep in mind that sex is generally less casual in East Asian (specifically Korean, in this case) cultures, relatively speaking.

I don't know how the subtitles are making this sound, but the subtext of this video is "we should try and not do this" as opposed to "omfg foreigners get them out of here".

It IS open for interpretation, though, as can clearly be seen from some of these responses. If someone's already xenophobic, they're going to see this to confirm their pre-existing bias. I don't really see this as making anyone (or trying to make anyone) xenophobic, though.


How is this not xenophobic? Assuming the subtitles are correct, they basically said "a lot of foreigners come here to take advantage of our women and when they are done they take their money and transmit the HIV virus."

On June 02 2012 00:19 Sanctimonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 23:10 DwD wrote:
Oh look. There are racists even in korea. I know Japan has a real problem with hate towards foreigners sad to see it's widespread


Just wanted to jump in on this - Japan doesn't have a real problem with hatred towards foreigners. If it did it wouldn't sponsor the immigration of tens of thousands of foreign workers to work in their schools. I've also been treated very kindly by most of the people I actually met in Japan in my time there. There are those who do mistrust and fear foreigners in Japan, and there is an undercurrent in society of groups who will spread lies and malicious propaganda about foreigners, but thankfully it isn't a mainstream thing.


I'm very aware the gov wants people to come to Japan either to work or for holiday. However just because you had a pleasant time doesn't mean there aren't people who have problems. I know this shit exists everywhere but trust me I did a whole lot of research when I was looking into Japan about ESL etc a while ago. It's very common for people to get "kaijin" etc yelled at them and to be looked down upon.
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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
June 01 2012 15:24 GMT
#204
that music is just amazing
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
June 01 2012 15:24 GMT
#205
On June 02 2012 00:15 Shiragaku wrote:
I hope there are more Koreans who support anti-globalization rather than ethnic nationalism.


And this is nothing new. Whenever we have a male foreign exchange student in the school, all the girls want him and sometimes, the guys will react harshly.

Same with female exchange students. All the guys will flock around them and many of the girls will call her a slut.

Why? Why do they even care? :S I would never ever ever date a girl in my class, for very obvious reasons.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
BillClinton
Profile Joined November 2009
232 Posts
June 01 2012 15:27 GMT
#206
This video is a good example for propaganda and fear mongering, it will have an effect on the uneducated. I was often wondering why there was so much xenophobia in south korea, now I dont have to wonder any longer.
Before you judge sth, keep in mind that the less you know about sth, the more that what you think or pretend to know about it, it says about yourself and your environment.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 01 2012 15:30 GMT
#207
Lol this is great, even if this was a serious problem what does it say about the Korean women who mess around with the "foreign" men? Like anything you see on TV/Internet you take it with a grain of salt.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 01 2012 15:34 GMT
#208
There is already page 11, so I just skimmed over the replys, but it seems that the answer is not there, so I doulf like to ask, if there is someone speaking Korean, who can tell whether the subtitles are correct? Because this really made me mad towards whoever did this and I don't want to be mad just because someone mistranslated it!

Anyway, if it really says what the subtitles say, I believe that some formulations would be outgirht illegal here (at least it would be punished by the Broadcasting overview comitteee). Do they really not have any provisions against spreading xenophobia on TV in Korea?

And the last point about the wholesome relationships, is that really Korea, not Iran? I knew something was going on in there for a long time, but had no idea that it is that bad.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Kahlgar
Profile Joined June 2011
411 Posts
June 01 2012 15:36 GMT
#209
i mostly found the documentary hilarious, would probably be a bit more annoyed if i lived in Korea tho
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 01 2012 15:37 GMT
#210
On June 02 2012 00:16 Chunhyang wrote:
They be taking our women!

Show nested quote +
Xenophobia like that is common in much of Asia so it's not like it's surprising.


Everywhere. It's everywhere.

People in China LOVE foreigners... cuz money
:)
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
June 01 2012 15:40 GMT
#211
On June 01 2012 15:50 rbx270j wrote:
Best Korea Tourism Ad I've ever seen


Exactly that, where do I sign to go there?
Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
June 01 2012 15:41 GMT
#212
This is bullshit, I hope one day it will become leagal to execute people who obviously spread bullshit, damn the streets would be running red with blood ....
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
June 01 2012 15:43 GMT
#213
On June 02 2012 00:30 Stress wrote:
Lol this is great, even if this was a serious problem what does it say about the Korean women who mess around with the "foreign" men? Like anything you see on TV/Internet you take it with a grain of salt.


It says alot about the korean media. Instead of focusing on highlighting injustices they focus on this instead.

In Sweden we have ALOT of foreigners. We even have so many that we barely can take care of them properly because new people arrive almost everyday and we already have such a large number of foreigners that it's a huge problem for them to get any work. This is what the swedish media have been focusing on lately that we need to make it better for the foreign population so that they can get jobs and get more integrated into swedish society.

We've even had a foreigner that tried to blow himself up to try to kill innocent people (although thankfully he failed). And many other incident who have happened in other EU countries.

This just feels really petty by the korean media. Is this their major problem to report about?

Only the racist's whine about the foreigners. If the swedish media did a news report like this there would be riots in the streets by both foreigners and ethnical swedes.
Hexadecimal
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada55 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 15:47:12
June 01 2012 15:43 GMT
#214
What I find more appalling than the video itself is some of the comments on TL. You can understand why the video would sensationalize this story and portray it in this light; the network wants to increase their ratings. But, some of the replies here saying that it isn't Xenophobic or saying that it's a legitimate problem is depressing. There have already been comments explaining logically why it's erroneous to perceive this video as legitimate journalism so I won't waste my time on that debate.

The video was extremely racist. You would have to be ignorant not to see how terrible this video is, not only in the quality of journalism, but also terrible in the sense that it will affect the South Korean society in a negative way by perpetuating hostile, hyper-critical, Xenophobic, and racist views towards foreigners.

CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 15:47:21
June 01 2012 15:44 GMT
#215
They are different from us! Get EM!

Korea is pretty well known for its, at best, cultural "undertones" of superiority. I'm looking forward to my (eventual) vacation to Korea, and understand that any foreign country is a mix of opinions. The dangerous thing in this situation, or any one simmilar, is to assume that a whole country feels this way. Same goes with any country. There is variance and dissent in any country and this is just a sample of what I'll assume is probably a minorty in Korean opinion. I can't stand when Americans say things like "Iranians are like this" or "the Chinese are like that"... everywhere has a variety of people and it's pretty unfair to charactarize a large population off of one thing like this.

edit: lol my first thought was this was going to be a collection of opinions about how bad the rest of the world is at Starcraft. I'm actually kinna glad it wasn't that. Racism is everywhere and it doesn't surprise me in the least.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
June 01 2012 15:46 GMT
#216
if theres an opportunity for girls to get girls and its easier than normal who wouldnt take it?

the entire video is essentially guys being guys, and a SELECT amount of korean girls being well... girls, it just so happens that korea is not supportive thats it, this happens in every single country
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 01 2012 15:47 GMT
#217
On June 01 2012 20:13 Rekrul wrote:
LOL

the man in charge of producing that vid's daughter is obviously dating a white man and he is frustrated with his family blood line being ruined


lmao

Dan strikes again.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
June 01 2012 15:47 GMT
#218
On June 01 2012 23:10 Durp wrote:
The funniest thing to me however, is that where I'm from there's a pretty large Korean population, and for the most part it is well known that they don't find white men attractive. Koreans here tend to centralize to one area of the city and generally only date other Koreans.


You live in Toronto too, don't you?
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truewt
Profile Joined June 2008
Singapore121 Posts
June 01 2012 15:48 GMT
#219
This is an issue with many countries (developed) that are ageing and needs immigration to prop up the declining birth rates.

Immigrants integrating into the country's social fabric is never easy.
for Adun!
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
June 01 2012 15:49 GMT
#220
On June 02 2012 00:46 JitnikoVi wrote:
if theres an opportunity for girls to get girls and its easier than normal who wouldnt take it?

the entire video is essentially guys being guys, and a SELECT amount of korean girls being well... girls, it just so happens that korea is not supportive thats it, this happens in every single country


Yeah it happens in every country. Jealous men or racists being cranky that "their" women sleep around with foreigners. But that the media in a country does a news report like this is HUGE.
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