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To make sure there is no misunderstanding, I don´t know if Moletrap will cast SCII for OGN but Artosis said it will most likely be the case in this episode of SotG. I think all people who know who Moletrap is will know about certain discussions so I will not repeat everything again in this thread. Instead I would rather make a poll to see how the majority of people think about this.
Please only vote if you watched GSL Code A and are familiar with the matter.
Poll: Would you like Moletrap to cast SCII for OGN?No, I would prefer an other caster (1048) 74% Yes, I want him to cast (213) 15% I don´t care (155) 11% 1416 total votes Your vote: Would you like Moletrap to cast SCII for OGN? (Vote): Yes, I want him to cast
(Vote): No, I would prefer an other caster
(Vote): I don´t care
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well OGN Kespa etc they NEED an english cast ... i not want korean only like in sc1
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Nothing against Moletrap, but I couldn't stand to watch Code A or GSTL when he casted. Hopefully they find other casters.
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On May 04 2012 16:32 CoR wrote:
well OGN Kespa etc they NEED an english cast ... i not want korean only like in sc1
Thats why I tried to ask what people would ideally like to happen. 
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I got the sense throughout that whole show that they didn't realize that Moletrap/Torch got hired by OGN to cast LoL. It hasn't been announced or confirmed that Moletrap will be casting OSL or whatever they end up calling it, and it was frankly a little silly that they spent so long talking about it based on nothing but an assumption.
That said, Moletrap really isn't a good choice. I like him, personally, but most people don't, and they have the resources to get someone more popular.
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OH GOD PLZ NO!!!!!
Hopefuly someone else will do the casting for OGN. NO MOLETRAP, PLZ.
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What's the point of this thread? If you know how people feel about Moletrap, why would you make this poll? Just check previous polls in previous threads. I wouldn't mind Moletrap btw.
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On May 04 2012 16:35 corpuscle wrote:
I got the sense throughout that whole show that they didn't realize that Moletrap/Torch got hired by OGN to cast LoL. It hasn't been announced or confirmed that Moletrap will be casting OSL or whatever they end up calling it, and it was frankly a little silly that they spent so long talking about it based on nothing but an assumption.
That said, Moletrap really isn't a good choice. I like him, personally, but most people don't, and they have the resources to get someone more popular.
who though?
they cant get Tastosis, DJwheat, Day9 or bitterdam unless they get dApollo and Totalbiscuit i dont think there going to find a better caster
hopefully if Moletrap does get the gig he works hard on improving his casting, and Artosis did make a good point that theyd need someone who can cast BW as well
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Dear god, no. I stopped watching code A because of his incessant high-pitched screaming.
OHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOO WHOAAAAAAAAAA
no thanks
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Pay Day9 and Husky all the money in the world to go out to Korea and cast this!
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Noooooooooo...
No disrespect to Moletrap, but it was not good experience watching him at GOM. Please someone else caster.
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I hope they bring Moletrap in.
I can't stand the hate he gets around here.
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I don't see any of the major popular casters having the time to go to Korea, so I wish some of the more unknown/less popular casters would make their break with this opportunity. I think any caster in a position at OGN would definately have the incentive to improve as casters, and it's good for the community to have more diverse casters.
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On May 04 2012 16:39 Fueled wrote:
Pay Day9 and Husky all the money in the world to go out to Korea and cast this!
they could probably get Husky (hard to say havent seem at an event for a while so maybe hes not interested in full time casting) but no way they could get Day[9] to give up the Day[9] daily, besides is that the publicity they want?
"hey SC2 scene, its us KeSPA, remember us? to show how much we love the community we jsut killed the AHGL and the Day[9] Daily!!!!"
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On May 04 2012 16:38 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 16:35 corpuscle wrote:
I got the sense throughout that whole show that they didn't realize that Moletrap/Torch got hired by OGN to cast LoL. It hasn't been announced or confirmed that Moletrap will be casting OSL or whatever they end up calling it, and it was frankly a little silly that they spent so long talking about it based on nothing but an assumption.
That said, Moletrap really isn't a good choice. I like him, personally, but most people don't, and they have the resources to get someone more popular. who though? they cant get Tastosis, DJwheat, Day9 or bitterdam unless they get dApollo and Totalbiscuit i dont think there going to find a better caster hopefully if Moletrap does get the gig he works hard on improving his casting, and Artosis did make a good point that theyd need someone who can cast BW as well
There's a lot of casters out there. It's entirely possible that OGN could poach casters from another tournament, they almost undoubtedly have more money than most organizations. I don't know enough about the logistics to give any sort of expert opinion, but there's a lot of people out there that have gotten a general better reception than Moletrap. They could even potentially convince a player like Grubby to cast for them if the deal is sweet enough.
edit: off the top of my head, Katu, orb, Husky, Apollo, Axeltoss, and Adebisi all are better casters than Moletrap
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They could even potentially convince a player like Grubby to cast for them if the deal is sweet enough.
I could see this happening.
Painuser, too. He said he would be making more money flipping burgers then what he is being paid now to cast, on Inside the Game this week. Perhaps if the money is right he'll go?
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I get it now ... moletrap is a spy sent by GOM to destroy OGN from the INSIDE!
Joking aside. I really couldn't care either way. The only time moletrap bothered me was early when he first started casting for GOM and had a tendency to cut people off but he got better at that towards the end.
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I dont think there is a long line of casters who want to move to Korea permanently or for an extended period of time. Stop saying Day9/Husky/Apollo. Its not gonna happen. They are all doing rather well right where they are right now.
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Doesn't affect me because I will watch the Korean broadcast if available, if there will no longer be a Korean broadcast offered to the foreign community then I will be upset though.
Moletrap doesn't have a good approval rating, everyone knows this. It's not even 50%. But there's only so many casters available for Korea when two leagues are running and not sharing casters so they don't have much of a choice unless someone else wants to come live in Korea permanently and cast for OGN like Incontrol or Grubby.
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I really disliked this part of SOTG when INC kept ripping on OGN possibly having Moletrap as a caster for SC2. There's so many assumptions being made here. The first assumption seems to equate OGN with GOM. GOM relies on an English audience for a signifcant portion of its revenue because of its lacking popularity in Korea. Whereas GOM may truly be an awesome company that wants to satisfy the fans, we need to realize they do it because they need to. OGN seems to be existing quite fine without foreign revenue. Also, OGN is EXTREMELY good at what they do, so I wouldn't be so hesitant to give them the benefit of the doubt. Who even said Moletrap would be casting SC? It's somewhat logical to think he is, but why start ripping on OGN for something that we are making up on the spot?
I for one don't mind Moletrap, or any casters for that matter. I enjoy all of them. I like some more than others, but I'm more thankful than anything than OGN is even attempting to cater to us. Let's be happy for now, and everyone can start complaining later when something is actually known...
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oh god, please dont do that
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Not sure what the point of the poll is, but as Artosis also said, who else would you get? Someone that is willing to move to Korea and stay there. Someone that knows both Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2. Someone that has lots of experience casting. It'd be pretty hard to find someone.
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On May 04 2012 16:41 corpuscle wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 16:38 Forikorder wrote:On May 04 2012 16:35 corpuscle wrote:
I got the sense throughout that whole show that they didn't realize that Moletrap/Torch got hired by OGN to cast LoL. It hasn't been announced or confirmed that Moletrap will be casting OSL or whatever they end up calling it, and it was frankly a little silly that they spent so long talking about it based on nothing but an assumption.
That said, Moletrap really isn't a good choice. I like him, personally, but most people don't, and they have the resources to get someone more popular. who though? they cant get Tastosis, DJwheat, Day9 or bitterdam unless they get dApollo and Totalbiscuit i dont think there going to find a better caster hopefully if Moletrap does get the gig he works hard on improving his casting, and Artosis did make a good point that theyd need someone who can cast BW as well There's a lot of casters out there. It's entirely possible that OGN could poach casters from another tournament, they almost undoubtedly have more money than most organizations. I don't know enough about the logistics to give any sort of expert opinion, but there's a lot of people out there that have gotten a general better reception than Moletrap. They could even potentially convince a player like Grubby to cast for them if the deal is sweet enough. edit: off the top of my head, Katu, orb, Husky, Apollo, Axeltoss, and Adebisi all are better casters than Moletrap
arent Katu and orb people who got crucified by the community in the past? im pretty sure OGN would prefer to have a caster that some people hate then casters with history like that
the thing your missing is few casters are good enough and have a long enough track record for OGN to be willing to bring them out to Korea and not every caster is willing to drop everything in there life and move out there
since there not going to find a better caster (debatable i suppose) then Moletrap and Torch, and they already proved there worth doing LoL it wouldnt surprise me if they have them do SC2
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The drama will not cease
its almost a ban trap at this point
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I would prefer somebody else to be honest. The biggest reason in both SCII and LoL that I don't like listening to him is he's quite frankly not very knowledgeable about either game. That in and of itself is not a huge problem, but it doesn't seem like Moletrap is attempting to improve either. Torch after a few weeks at casting LoL had a noticeable improvement in both knowledge and casting quality. Moletrap on the other hand..
Also the incessant screaming that adds basically nothing.
I guess I may be somewhat biased because I'd rather have calm correct analysis commentary than screamed sometimes correct play-by-play that sometimes does a bit of analysis due to my formerly mid-high masters SCII and current Gold LoL(roughly equivalent of masters) status.
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By the way, I'm sure there's lots of pro players who would be okay with cutting into their practice time a little bit to cast in exchange for a solid salary and the opportunity to live in Korea. iNcontroL himself was planning on going over to Korea to cast for GOM and practice in Korea.
Just sayin'.
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The problem with Moletrap is general lack of knowledge. I don't know how much effort he actually puts into understanding the game and getting to know the players playing, but I always felt that he just didn't care that much. He'd often say things I felt were wrong about the players, as if he wasn't familiar with them, and he always made a lot of miscalls and left a general impression that his game knowledge was just really lacking.
I was enthusiastic about him early on, but he just doesn't seem to have improved at all. He definitely has the enthusiasm, but he has to understand that he needs to work and do his research, on both the game and the players, if he wants to do a better job and have less people disliking his casting.
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I still don't get it what with the massive hate on Moletrap though. He is doing a great job on casting, better than *somebody* at least, and i mean *SOMEBODY*~
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I would be sure that he would cast, but who knows they did take him on for the LoL premiere on OGN, so he might stick to LoL or he might do both LoL and sc2. Only time will tell
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Incontrol/Grubby
Make it happen!
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On May 04 2012 16:53 corpuscle wrote:
By the way, I'm sure there's lots of pro players who would be okay with cutting into their practice time a little bit to cast in exchange for a solid salary and the opportunity to live in Korea. iNcontroL himself was planning on going over to Korea to cast for GOM and practice in Korea.
Just sayin'.
he was planning on casting code a and with goms new schedule thats only means hed be casting for a few hours a couple days a week
no pro could cast for OGN and remain relelvant theyd turn into Artosis, an amazing analytical commentator but never going to do well in a tournament
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I dont really see what the hate is all about, he isnt my favorite caster but i have nothing against him, i dont see what makes him so much worse than all those other youtube casters.
If he's in korea and the gomtv casters are busy with their stuff, i dont see why not.
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Personally I would love to see people like Adebisi or Axeltoss cast for these guys. OGN is new to the sc2 scene, so they should have casters that are more up-and-coming (even though both have been around for awhile, their popularity is getting larger due to the recent spotlight that has been shined on casters).
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Well if Moletrap casts for that league they won't get any of my Euros. I paid GomTV since their very first show, and I was pondering to stop watching it because of that guy.
Now I'm a happy camper with Moletrap not casting for GomTV anymore, and I just don't want to hear about him anymore.
Sure he is a nice person, but in my opinion a very poor, irritating caster.
I also think that GomTV could have made more profit if they had hired another caster (which was maybe not possible at the time), because I'm sure that some people did not just ponder stopping their GomTV subscribtion but actually did it.
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On May 04 2012 16:51 Kiyo. wrote:
Not sure what the point of the poll is, but as Artosis also said, who else would you get? Someone that is willing to move to Korea and stay there. Someone that knows both Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2. Someone that has lots of experience casting. It'd be pretty hard to find someone.
Someone that knows alot about sc2. Someone that does not have an irritating voice. Someone that does not interrupt his co-caster .Someone that is at least a little charismatic.
I agree that this is not easy, but I would be sad to see a "lesser choice" being chosen because there is "nothing else"..
(edit : and I would not pay anything for that. In comparison I spent 200$+ on gom already, including the ticket for the whole 2012 year..)
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On May 04 2012 17:10 niilzon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 16:51 Kiyo. wrote:
Not sure what the point of the poll is, but as Artosis also said, who else would you get? Someone that is willing to move to Korea and stay there. Someone that knows both Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2. Someone that has lots of experience casting. It'd be pretty hard to find someone. Someone that knows alot about sc2. Someone that does not have an irritating voice. Someone that does not interrupt his co-caster .Someone that is at least a little charismatic. I agree that this is not easy, but I would be sad to see a "lesser choice" being chosen because there is "nothing else".. (edit : and I would not pay anything for that. In comparison I spent 200$+ on gom already, including the ticket for the whole 2012 year..)
your right they should jsut not have english casters and jsut show the game and let the viewer figure out whats going on themselves
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Id suggest that they do a deal with GOM and share casters when they aren't busy. Other than that id say they should find someone awesome like Apollo or some of the other casters like Axel and bring them over to do it. Id hate if they have horrible casting. Actually id nearly stream audio of myself casting (not the video since that is wrong) if they do use moletrap.
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On May 04 2012 17:14 FlukyS wrote:
Id suggest that they do a deal with GOM and share casters when they aren't busy. Other than that id say they should find someone awesome like Apollo or some of the other casters like Axel and bring them over to do it. Id hate if they have horrible casting. Actually id nearly stream audio of myself casting (not the video since that is wrong) if they do use moletrap.
In an ideal world they could share casters but unfortunately they are in " friendly competition "
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On May 04 2012 17:10 niilzon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 16:51 Kiyo. wrote:
Not sure what the point of the poll is, but as Artosis also said, who else would you get? Someone that is willing to move to Korea and stay there. Someone that knows both Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2. Someone that has lots of experience casting. It'd be pretty hard to find someone. Someone that knows alot about sc2. Someone that does not have an irritating voice. Someone that does not interrupt his co-caster .Someone that is at least a little charismatic. I agree that this is not easy, but I would be sad to see a "lesser choice" being chosen because there is "nothing else".. (edit : and I would not pay anything for that. In comparison I spent 200$+ on gom already, including the ticket for the whole 2012 year..)
This whole thread and your posts are basing everything off of nothing. We love GOM... but get ready to have GOM be a second rate league when OGN gets going. As I've already said, I'm simply glad they will even acknowledge the foreign audience. Let's give them a chance before breaking out the pitchforks.
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On May 04 2012 17:14 FlukyS wrote:
Id suggest that they do a deal with GOM and share casters when they aren't busy. Other than that id say they should find someone awesome like Apollo or some of the other casters like Axel and bring them over to do it. Id hate if they have horrible casting. Actually id nearly stream audio of myself casting (not the video since that is wrong) if they do use moletrap.
taht doesnt benefit gom at all, and they wouldnt have gotten more casters then tastosis if they had time on there hands
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Does this really deserve its own thread?
Anyways, Moletrap is pretty good. I'd much rather have an average SC2 caster than someone who has absolutely no clue about BW, and don't fool yourself, that IS the alternative.
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On May 04 2012 16:41 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 16:39 Fueled wrote:
Pay Day9 and Husky all the money in the world to go out to Korea and cast this! they could probably get Husky (hard to say havent seem at an event for a while so maybe hes not interested in full time casting) but no way they could get Day[9] to give up the Day[9] daily, besides is that the publicity they want? "hey SC2 scene, its us KeSPA, remember us? to show how much we love the community we jsut killed the AHGL and the Day[9] Daily!!!!"
I think Day9 is actually better at commentating than at analyzing games.
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On May 04 2012 17:19 Aunvilgod wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 16:41 Forikorder wrote:On May 04 2012 16:39 Fueled wrote:
Pay Day9 and Husky all the money in the world to go out to Korea and cast this! they could probably get Husky (hard to say havent seem at an event for a while so maybe hes not interested in full time casting) but no way they could get Day[9] to give up the Day[9] daily, besides is that the publicity they want? "hey SC2 scene, its us KeSPA, remember us? to show how much we love the community we jsut killed the AHGL and the Day[9] Daily!!!!" I think Day9 is actually better at commentating than at analyzing games.
what does that have to do with Kespa killing the most popular SC2 show?
he can commentate on the side at MLGs and stuff but he cant do OGN and the daily
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No, no, no, no, PLEASE NO !
I hope TorcH cast some sc2 for OGN
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I just can't imagine an event of Proleague's magnitude and significance being commentated by Moletrap. 
Didn't Assem do some casting for GOM? Get him.
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I'd rather watch it with Korean commentary than listen to Moletrap's casting.
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I don't know how much they know about sc2 but it might be worth looking at the current bw casters like nukethestars to see if they could go to Korea.
I wonder if it would be possible to have the official english caster not be in korea and just send them the video feed to stream it themselves on twitch. At least until they find someone who can move there.
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Day9 won't do it 100%. I really doubt Husky's going to move to Korea permanently to cast for a long duration. I think Grubby would be a good choice for caster if they can convince him to do full time casting. It'd be his real debut and I feel that he would become immediately popular in the casting scene.
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If so, then let him solo-cast like in the GSL Code A preliminaries (some months ago iirc) for when he does. He was way better without a co-commentator.
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pointless thread. Not like there are heaps of english casters who are willing to live in korea fulltime.
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On May 04 2012 17:30 desarrisc wrote:
Day9 won't do it 100%. I really doubt Husky's going to move to Korea permanently to cast for a long duration. I think Grubby would be a good choice for caster if they can convince him to do full time casting. It'd be his real debut and I feel that he would become immediately popular in the casting scene.
The problem with grubby is he is a wc3 guy. How would he handle the broodwar games that are going to be half of the summer proleague?
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He has casting experience in both BW and SC2; as well as experience in Korea in general. I don't see them changing him (if indeed he casts now, which is most likely) at least until October when they plan SC2-only PL.
I wonder why this is even a surprise, I saw it coming on the first day of his cast for OGN LoL, even before officially leaving GOM. I was telling people that it's very likely that he'll cast SC2 again when OGN come along. Smart career move by him.
As for the vocal lynch group against him - I've never seen sufficient arguments of substance that can't be said about other major SC2 casters too; so I had to conclude the root cause was strong resentment of his personality and voice.
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Personally i really love moletraps style. I find him entertaining.
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On May 04 2012 16:49 Dodgin wrote:
Doesn't affect me because I will watch the Korean broadcast if available, if there will no longer be a Korean broadcast offered to the foreign community then I will be upset though.
Pretty sure the English broadcast will be on Twitch, while the Korean broadcast will be through ESPORTSTV on YouTube.
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Please no moletrap. I know a lot of people can stand moletrap, but please get a caster that majority of the people like. and more accepted by the public.
Maybe work with GOM closely and get Tastosis to cast all the GAMES!!! otherwires, HDH, day9, djweat would be cool too.
Moletrap has this weird high pitch screaming that really bothers me.
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I just wish the option to watch in korean is there. If that is the case then no problem with moletrap because there is an alternative.
If only the english stream is available then.......I will be a sad panda, no matter who the caster would be (almost).
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I'd rather watch the Korean cast, than watch Moletrap to be honest. A company like OGN should have enough money to get one of the top duo's out there.
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I actually think he's a great choice for the upcoming "mixed" season. He knows SC1 very well and he knows SC2 pretty well too. Aside from Tastosis, who are tied up with GOM, I don't think there's really any other reasonable choice for OGN to make.
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Wouldn't mind Moletrap at all.
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If it's moletrap I won't watch it.
I can't stand his cating.
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Would you prefer koreans screaming or a muted moletrap?
There's not many English casters in Korea, you have to understand. Torch and Moletrap are the only two people who aren't employed by GOM that are in Korea as English casters right?
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On May 04 2012 17:46 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 16:49 Dodgin wrote:
Doesn't affect me because I will watch the Korean broadcast if available, if there will no longer be a Korean broadcast offered to the foreign community then I will be upset though.
Pretty sure the English broadcast will be on Twitch, while the Korean broadcast will be through ESPORTSTV on YouTube.
Is that the case with the LoL broadcasts currently? I haven't been following it much, if so then that's great.
On May 04 2012 18:05 MonkSEA wrote:
Would you prefer koreans screaming or a muted moletrap?
That's a silly question hehe
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This would be good to Moletrap was sad to see him go will be good to see him back
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I hope so. I enjoyed his casting greatly.
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I'd prefer not to. It's nothing personal, but there are just so many better casters than him. I'm a little sad that that's the case though, I really liked him back in BW, but I dunno, SC2 just doesn't seem to suit him that well.
On May 04 2012 18:05 MonkSEA wrote:
Would you prefer koreans screaming or a muted moletrap?
What kind of question is that, Korean casting is amazing
...unless that was sarcasm of course >.>
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Unless they do it like GSL, I will always watch the korean commentators. The OGN korean commentators are just amazing (actually GSL ones are to). They make the game sound way more exciting, I don't know how else to put it. A "boring" game seems so much more exciting when listening to korean casters then listening to english ones.
Just opinion but I really hope that they allow restreaming of the korean ones!
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It's fine for the first season since it's mixed SC2 and BW. But other than that I agree with everything that Incontrol said on SOTG, and I would like to see other casters as it becomes SC2 only.
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Considering the significance of the players coming across from BW, it's such a shame that Tasteless and Artosis won't be casting.
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On May 04 2012 18:18 Torra wrote:
It's fine for the first season since it's mixed SC2 and BW. But other than that I agree with everything that Incontrol said on SOTG, and I would like to see other casters as it becomes SC2 only.
What was it that he said?
I know Moletrap from BW and back then he was always enjoyable. I am quite surprised by the poll.
edit: I read OP but 2 hour VOD is too long
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Alternatively they could delay the English stream by 2 to 5 minutes and use that time window to have some translator do near-live English subtitles for the Korean casters.
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I don't really care about casters but i think Moletrap would pretty good for OGN because he knows a lot about the sc1 players.
This comunity needs to stop giving so much attention to casters and start caring more about the game and the players.
I can't believe people is saying they didn't watch code A or won't watch OGN because they don't like Moletrap.
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Get Husky and Day[9] over to cast for them!!!
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I didn't watch code A if it's Moletrap casting unless it was a very good match.
Now he's ruining the experience in the LoL games in the OGN Championship for everyone who plays LoL watches those games.
Really, as a caster he really needs to listen to criticism, be it constructive OR no, so that he could CHANGE to be a more likable caster. Just how hard is it to stop.making.stupid.calls in every single cast. It's not that hard. All he needs to do is just talk... less and the amount of stupidity would proportionally be lower. But nope, he had to go on and on on his bullshit that annoyed everyone.
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moletrap is not my favorite, but i never muted him either... part of me is deviously grinning though because after the unworthy farewell many posters threw at him, he might come back with a much more important role than casting code A 
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Question, if not moletrap, who can cast BW and SC2 in the same broadcast?
I get as annoyed by moletrap as anyone, just tend to agree with Artosis that he might be the best choice when both games are being played.
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Why moletrap when there are much better casters around like tastosis bitterdam grubby etc.
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On May 04 2012 18:43 Pure-SC2 wrote:
Question, if not moletrap, who can cast BW and SC2 in the same broadcast?
I get as annoyed by moletrap as anyone, just tend to agree with Artosis that he might be the best choice when both games are being played.
and on top of that, would actually move to Korea to do it.. Most of the people we could come up with simply will not do it as they have other stuff going for them. So yeah, Moletrap seems like a good fit.
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On May 04 2012 18:44 Silentenigma wrote:
Why moletrap when there are much better casters around like tastosis bitterdam grubby etc.
Not everyone is prepared to commit living their lives in Korea.
Artosis and probably tasteless will not leave Gom(According to SOTG atleast).
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I didn't like Moletrap too much but not because of his voice but because his lack of knowledge. But this is the case for most other casters as well, I think. So what I really would like to see, Moletrap or not, if OGN would have like training camps with their casters to give them some insight on how Korean commentators look at the game. I know it might be hard but I really would love to see OGN making an active approach at bringing knowledgable commentary.
€: Of course speaking SC2. I don't know about BW.
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I don't mind it, but if it is possible, please not moletrap.
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Unless you can name a caster who isn't contracted with GOM, has experience casting both SC1 and SC2, isn't a player, and is willing to drop everything and go to Korea, then you can't complain about them using Moletrap. Sorry.
OGN didn't have english casts anyway for the last decade, so if you dislike moletrap that much, just pretend there is no english cast and watch the korean one, no harm done.
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Artosis is right tho, he is there, he probably wants it, he know SC1 and SC2 and he does have some fans even if so many people dislike him so much.
He has my blessing and i hope if he is chosen that he makes a good job, he seems a nice guy.
I actually don't understand BW that much and this is a perfect chance for me to get to know that game, so i hope whoever is chosen does infact know alot about it, even more then SC2 because that game i understand!
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As many people have mentioned already, I'd love too see Orb/Adebisi/Axeltoss casting. they're all like really really good casters, if they were given more chances they could be up there with day9/Apollo/Wolf/Artosis etc.
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Apollo I think would be the best choice, I remember seeing him casting Flash vs Jaedong so atleast he has some BW experience. Hard to pick a caster who's actually "good enough" to cast for OGN AND know BW. Only option is to clone Tastosis I guess.
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im sorry but no i cannot stand when i have to /facepalm irl when i know the analysis is blatantly wrong. this is confirmed by his predictions usually turning out sour and the predictions i have in my head turning out correct. i dont like feeling like i have way more game knowledge than 'the expert' on TV.
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On May 04 2012 18:54 MHT wrote:
Apollo I think would be the best choice, I remember seeing him casting Flash vs Jaedong so atleast he has some BW experience. Hard to pick a caster who's actually "good enough" to cast for OGN AND know BW. Only option is to clone Tastosis I guess.
Yeah Apollo actually casted BW for WCG in the past and actually lived in Korea with Tasteless. But there's not a chance he will be moving back there, I mean he just moved with his girlfriend to Sweden, he's probably not gonna have here move again + abandon the project he's started with the GD studio.
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Not enough English casters in Korea? There're plenty of players though. Every one of them (even NightEnd whose voice is may be worse than Moletrap's, but has great insight into the game) will be FAR FAR FAR better than Moletrap. A player will probably be better than every other caster actually...
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This guys... He said that he will left starcraft 2 for lol and come back because of the BW come back..Stop to cash in all sides.
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On May 04 2012 16:37 danbel1005 wrote:
OH GOD PLZ NO!!!!!
Hopefuly someone else will do the casting for OGN. NO MOLETRAP, PLZ.
On May 04 2012 16:38 ThomasR wrote:
Dear god, no. I stopped watching code A because of his incessant high-pitched screaming.
OHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOO WHOAAAAAAAAAA
no thanks
I agree with those sentiments. Moletrap is the bane of intelligence and the destroyer of fun.
As a sidenote I actually loved him when he commented sc1 on youtube. He was awesome in those good old days, he was the first caster I ever donated to, to help him buy a new computer.
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OMG not to be mean or anything but i thought after he got criticized and had a lot of negative feedback stopped casting starcraft... Why cant day9 cast it? Good casters is what really makes a good tournament good. Would be sad for the casters to ruin my entertainment : |
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He wasn't a caster I particularly enjoyed while he was doing Code A, but I'd be willing to give him another chance if he showed up on whatever OGN ends up producing. Ultimately, my biggest demand in casters is to show some good game knowledge, and if he can improve in this I'm not going to throw any tantrums over it.
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Seriously kids, who cares? Moletrap is a solid caster. He is no Artosis, but its not that bad that you have to mute the stream... so GTFO! Moletrap knows more about SC and has way more passion that 99.8% of you!
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On May 04 2012 21:35 Kaesebrot wrote:
Seriously kids, who cares? Moletrap is a solid caster. He is no Artosis, but its not that bad that you have to mute the stream... so GTFO! Moletrap knows more about SC and has way more passion that 99.8% of you!
I don´t care if he knows more than me about Starcraft. First he could be better at bringing his knowledge about Starcraft to the viewers. Second casting consists of other things as well.
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There's pretty much no other caster out there who can cast BW and Sc2 and will actually do it.
Moletrap is the only viable choice for the next season of Pro League.
The season after that where it's only Sc2 I hope they get Apollo/Wolf in.
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I wouldn't be happy with moletrap... I really hope they wont get him or catspajamas/doa/moletrap/mr bitter/rotterdam. I am hoping for either someone new, or some pro-gamer like Grubby.
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On May 04 2012 19:04 Vadrigar wrote:
Not enough English casters in Korea? There're plenty of players though. Every one of them (even NightEnd whose voice is may be worse than Moletrap's, but has great insight into the game) will be FAR FAR FAR better than Moletrap. A player will probably be better than every other caster actually...
I would love to hear Nightend's insights into Flash vs Jaedong at BW...
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On May 04 2012 21:54 Ucs wrote:
I wouldn't be happy with moletrap... I really hope they wont get him or catspajamas/doa/moletrap/mr bitter/rotterdam. I am hoping for either someone new, or some pro-gamer like Grubby.
None of those guys have the first idea about Brood War except Mr Bitter and I'm not sure how much he knows.
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get bitterdam ! moletrap has such an annoying voice , always muted when he was casting , i even dislike wolf becose when i think about him i think about his casts with moletrap that was horrible sound im my ears .
p.s. atlast now that wolf is casting with khaldor i start like him more and more .
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I don't really like Moletrap's casting. His insight is lacking, and I find his voice kinda unpleasant to listen to. GSL has two very good caster pairs right now with Artosis/Tasteless and Khaldor/Wolf. I also enjoy casting by Day9/DJWheat, Rotterdam/Mr.Bitter and Apollo/TotalBiscuit. Sure, English speaking casters are scarce in Korea, but really... Moletrap?
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I'll be watching the Korean cast thank you, which will be painful at first because they're just learning the game. I think it will be interesting to watch them develop and this way you can see how much time and effort they put in to learn the game and how the player's grow.
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On May 04 2012 22:02 Scorch wrote:
I don't really like Moletrap's casting. His insight is lacking, and I find his voice kinda unpleasant to listen to. GSL has two very good caster pairs right now with Artosis/Tasteless and Khaldor/Wolf. I also enjoy casting by Day9/DJWheat, Rotterdam/Mr.Bitter and Apollo/TotalBiscuit. Sure, English speaking casters are scarce in Korea, but really... Moletrap?
Artosis/Tasteless - Work for GOM already.
Khaldor/Wolf - Work for GOM, don't know anything about BW.
Rotterdam/MrBitter - Don't know anything about BW.
Apollo/TB - Don't know anything about BW.
Day9/DjWheat - Wheat knows nothing about BW. Day9 makes way too much money by himself to ever take this job.
Got anymore good suggestions?
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On May 04 2012 19:06 misspo wrote:
This guys... He said that he will left starcraft 2 for lol and come back because of the BW come back..Stop to cash in all sides.
When did he say that? If he did, I missed it. All that I know is that he left GOM for OGN, but he may have known that OGN was going to be needing a caster for their English BW and SC2 casts as well as LoL. Maybe they contacted him in advance for that purpose. Is there a link to where he said he was quitting SC2 for LoL?
I think it's silly for people to just randomly list casters that you'd rather have when most of the ones listed have positions in other companies or have their own thing going.
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Artosis made a good point on SotG: Moletrap knows both BW and SC2. OGN should be exhaustive on their searches finding a quality pair of casters for their proleague and Moletrap is certainly qualified as one of those.
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Moletrap is a great caster, sometimes his knowledge about sc2 lacks a bit, but all the continuous enthousiasm he puts in his casts is remarkable. Casters should scream and be very excited imo, it makes good esports; people who are new to sc2, don't care about meta game strats etc, they want to feel the sympathy behind the whole scene. I like it a lot more than the boring casts of wolf for example, even though he's good at what he does ofc. Everybody his own taste.
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I'll never get the anti-Moletrap casting thingy going on with people.
Moletrap is actually solid. If people are annoyed about his voice or looks in the camera then say so instead of saying that he lacks knowledge and other bullshit things... people that say stuff like that are freaking ignorant cuz that is NOT the case.
The guy is superb and he is ALWAYS doing his homework before games, he knows builds and shit, he knows alot about the players, he can predict the games outcome etc.. I f***ing dare to say that he is doing his homework more than Tasteless doing his freaking homework. Sorry to say this but Moletrap does NOT deserve all this hate.
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On May 04 2012 18:52 Eee wrote:
As many people have mentioned already, I'd love too see Orb/Adebisi/Axeltoss casting. they're all like really really good casters, if they were given more chances they could be up there with day9/Apollo/Wolf/Artosis etc.
I like this proposal
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Someone else please OGN...
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rotterdam + bitter, would be awesome
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Pretty worthless poll, there aren't many alternatives. You need someone willing to go there, know's both games well and will be generally accepted by all.
And that's just not going to happen - very few of the top casters now are generally accepted or receive positive feedback as Artosis said on SotG
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I don't really care, just so long as I can still watch the Korean commentators, I just love those guys :D. I'll watch Moletrap from time to time though, it's been so long since he's done anything BW I wonder how well he'd do with that
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I'm wondering if OGN will try to poach Tastetosis from GOM. Maybe offer them something significantly more than what GOM is offering. Money talks, right?
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The poll is pretty worthless, It will only accomplish getting people riled up and hurting Moletrap's feelings.
Also the people that enjoy his casting are less likely to vote.
What people don't realize is it is kind of late to get a new caster even if they wanted to.
To the people that say they won't watch the games if Moletrap casts them:
Your not a real fan of StarCraft
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if OGN really that big and wealthy they need to offer the mega $$ to likes of Incontrol/Grubby/Apollo. ie an offer thats too good to turn down.
As for Moletrap isnt he turning his hand to LoL?
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He'd be the best for casting both games. I wasn't the biggest fan of him to begin with, but he got better with time.
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On May 04 2012 22:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 22:02 Scorch wrote:
I don't really like Moletrap's casting. His insight is lacking, and I find his voice kinda unpleasant to listen to. GSL has two very good caster pairs right now with Artosis/Tasteless and Khaldor/Wolf. I also enjoy casting by Day9/DJWheat, Rotterdam/Mr.Bitter and Apollo/TotalBiscuit. Sure, English speaking casters are scarce in Korea, but really... Moletrap? Artosis/Tasteless - Work for GOM already. Khaldor/Wolf - Work for GOM, don't know anything about BW. Rotterdam/MrBitter - Don't know anything about BW. Apollo/TB - Don't know anything about BW. Day9/DjWheat - Wheat knows nothing about BW. Day9 makes way too much money by himself to ever take this job. Got anymore good suggestions?
djWHEAT has casted StarCraft before, surely? Obviously he wouldn't have much analysis, but I'm sure I've heard of him casting, maybe at a WCG or something, he'd have the familiarity down enough to be able to commentate with an analyst. That's assuming I'm not talking out of my ass, and also impossible because djWHEAT would never leave his family/job/etc.
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I'd take HDStarcraft over Moletrap for BW casts....
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CholeraSC needs to come out of retirement.
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I wish they would get a good analytical caster like orb to cast, but alas, that'll never happen.
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Im gonna side with what they were saying on SOTG, while moletrap is a solid caster. Why not get a bigger name for what is suppose to be one of the biggest leagues. My only guess is they are underestimating the power of the caster.
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one of the worst things about the SC2 community is that the organizatons never listen to the audience when it comes to casters. They always just shrug off mass dislike for someone as just trolling/flaming idiots. Sure some people like MT but you need people that are a lot more universally loved for something hitting such a huge market. It really saddens me that they dont respect their fanbase enough...
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On May 04 2012 22:53 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 22:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On May 04 2012 22:02 Scorch wrote:
I don't really like Moletrap's casting. His insight is lacking, and I find his voice kinda unpleasant to listen to. GSL has two very good caster pairs right now with Artosis/Tasteless and Khaldor/Wolf. I also enjoy casting by Day9/DJWheat, Rotterdam/Mr.Bitter and Apollo/TotalBiscuit. Sure, English speaking casters are scarce in Korea, but really... Moletrap? Artosis/Tasteless - Work for GOM already. Khaldor/Wolf - Work for GOM, don't know anything about BW. Rotterdam/MrBitter - Don't know anything about BW. Apollo/TB - Don't know anything about BW. Day9/DjWheat - Wheat knows nothing about BW. Day9 makes way too much money by himself to ever take this job. Got anymore good suggestions? djWHEAT has casted StarCraft before, surely? Obviously he wouldn't have much analysis, but I'm sure I've heard of him casting, maybe at a WCG or something, he'd have the familiarity down enough to be able to commentate with an analyst. That's assuming I'm not talking out of my ass, and also impossible because djWHEAT would never leave his family/job/etc.
Nick stepped in because Wheat was a headless chicken by himself. He really is clueless when it comes to BW and its never going to happen for various reasons.
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Time to learn korean if this is really going to happen. I have no grudge against him as a person (as far as i can tell, i dont know him really ) but i think he is a terrible caster... Please moletrap, the SC2 community can and does not apriciate your casting, stay with LOL if they do.
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On May 04 2012 22:43 Ireniicus wrote:
if OGN really that big and wealthy they need to offer the mega $$ to likes of Incontrol/Grubby/Apollo. ie an offer thats too good to turn down.
As for Moletrap isnt he turning his hand to LoL?
OGN itself is far from being "big and wealthy". KeSPA as a whole kinda is, or rather the companies that stand behind it are, but hiring commentators seems like something that would be OGN's own job to me.
In other words, it's highly unlikely they're going to dish out the money for a Day9-tier personality.
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you guys do realise, moletrap can still improve right?
give the guy another shot.
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Well they HAVE to get Day[9]
the trio of Tastosis + Day[9] would be fucking sick... (although I dont know if their can hire Tastosis cause the're still will be working for GOM right ?)
idk, Im all into the casting trio, like they always cast in korean.
maybe Day[9]/Torch/Apollo ? xDD
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moletrap fits LoL better than starcraft because he can capture the excitement of the full blown 5v5 teamfights better than any other caster.
in starcraft, where its more about positioning and timings and other things rather than just fighting, his weakness comes out: his lack of knowledge.
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lets just say i would rather be a mole in a trap than listen to him cast ogn
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Will there be korean commentary available for foreigns to watch?
Because if there isn't, then SC2 is really fucking breaking my world all around, holy crap. No more BW games, no more great quality TL community, no more korean casters, no more everything that is good :|
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On May 04 2012 16:49 Dodgin wrote:
Moletrap doesn't have a good approval rating, everyone knows this. It's not even 50%. But there's only so many casters available for Korea when two leagues are running and not sharing casters so they don't have much of a choice unless someone else wants to come live in Korea permanently and cast for OGN like Incontrol or Grubby.
Grubby would be AWESOME! While Moletrap would be... more than meh.
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I'd rather watch the korean stream than moletrap unless he's been smurfing a Korean GM account playing as random since he left GOM.
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Also a big part why they have Moletrap is because the Proleague will be mixed BW/SC2 and Moletrap used to cast BW.
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some people just needs to deal with it.
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Hey another thread doomed to turn into a "Let's hate Moletrap" thread. Nice job TL userbase, we haven't had one of these in awhile!
edit: I guess I can take solace in the idea that TL users are most likely the slice of an extreme edge of the eSports community and not a cross section.
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Why don't they get one BW caster and one SC2 caster as opposed to people who know both it will give them far more options and pretty much establishes who the main caster and who the color commentator is.
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While Moletrap is a decent caster, I feel like OGN, the FUCKIN REAL DEAL, needs two OUTSTANDING casters.
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dont understand the hate. some of the names you guys are suggesting to replace him arent that much better. heck, dont day9 do the same shrieks and shrills when he casts? ive never turned off a football game due to casting. i just watch the games.
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Moletrap would be disastrous but since it's OGN, I would just stick with nanashin stream
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On May 04 2012 23:50 Arceus wrote:
Moletrap would be disastrous but since it's OGN, I would just stick with nanashin stream
Yeah, I would avoid an English stream if alternatives from Moletrap were available.
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Please don't OGN deserves better, he should definitely stick to LoL where he is kind of decent.
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The Poll is incredibly biased...
Would you like for moletrap to cast or for the Day[9], Tasteless, Artosis, Khaldor, Doa, Wolf, Apollo, Husky, HD, Painuser, TotalBiscuit, Rotterdam, MrBitter, and Gretorp superbeing to cast?
PLUS, isn't he just going to be commentating LoL for OGN?
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I'd much much rather have someone else. There's plenty of other casters they could get to do it.
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On May 04 2012 23:40 Sroobz wrote:
While Moletrap is a decent caster, I feel like OGN, the FUCKIN REAL DEAL, needs two OUTSTANDING casters.
Outstanding English commentators don't exist.
You get what you get.
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Like many people, I think, I have nothing personal against Moletrap. I think he has a good attitude and that he shouldn't get flamed personally. However, he just can't be a caster. Being a caster requires a few indispensable assets, and one of them is having a pleasant voice. Unfortunately, Moletrap has the worst voice for the job I have ever heard, so without even looking further, he is already unfit for the job. And that's not even going into his game knowledge and personality.
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Anyone but Moletrap, he's just dreadful. I honestly hope OGN finds someone else. Stick to LoL and don't pollute the SC2 community again Moletrap.
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On May 05 2012 00:08 Legion710 wrote:
Like many people, I think, I have nothing personal against Moletrap. I think he has a good attitude and that he shouldn't get flamed personally. However, he just can't be a caster. Being a caster requires a few indispensable assets, and one of them is having a pleasant voice. Unfortunately, Moletrap has the worst voice for the job I have ever heard, so without even looking further, he is already unfit for the job. And that's not even going into his game knowledge and personality.
I dont think his voice is too bad, I never understood what the problem was.
Still, I also have nothing against him, but I'd also rather have someone more knowledgeable and entertaining for (what I hope to be) the creme de la creme of SC2 Leagues.
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I'd rather watch a Korean cast with subtitles than have Moletrap cast in English
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On May 05 2012 00:05 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:40 Sroobz wrote:
While Moletrap is a decent caster, I feel like OGN, the FUCKIN REAL DEAL, needs two OUTSTANDING casters. Outstanding English commentators don't exist. You get what you get.
Artosis explained last night that the Korean casters are handed scripts with tons of information and things to say. The English casts are mostly impromptu and thus the Korean casters appear enlightened on every subject. They aren't truly better as individual casters, but they have more support from a production team.
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On May 05 2012 00:05 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:40 Sroobz wrote:
While Moletrap is a decent caster, I feel like OGN, the FUCKIN REAL DEAL, needs two OUTSTANDING casters. Outstanding English commentators don't exist. You get what you get.
Funny how most foreigners think that the "OUTSTANDING" casters for the "FUCKIN REAL DEAL" are the ones who basically give out free coaching.
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I do not like moletrap, wolf, or khaldor as casters. None of them seem, to me, to be at all good as a caster.
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i like wheat and jaypee, those are the ones i'd like to see casting.
moletrap is fine though, if anything he doesnt go into 5 minute long bullshit stories like wolf and doa do, instead he actually gives some insight during the earlier stages of the game
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On May 04 2012 16:39 Fueled wrote:
Pay Day9 and Husky all the money in the world to go out to Korea and cast this!
No day 9 please. He is pretty annoying as a caster and hearing 'I'm Day9' 18628931 times an hour..
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Who else IS there to cast this?
Astosis and Tasteless aren't going to leave GOM and I'm awesome with that. Khaldor and Wolf, maybe, but I'd still lean towards no since GSL has been the creme de la creme of SC2 and will continue to be.
Totalbiscuit, dApollo, Day9 and Husky aren't going to uproot everything and try to move to Korea for this. That and they are too busy with other things, like running their own companies (or in dApollo's case, being the most wanted EU casters for every event) that generate more money for them than just casting SC2 could give.
Imo, when it comes to "English casters" that are big names, this just leaves Bitter and Rotterdam. Could I see them doing this? Yes, I could, but something tells me that if they did, KeSPA would put a kibosh on their "funny" casting and tell them that it's srsbsns. Their banter and general not-SC related comments is what keeps me watching them while they cast and take that away and they're fairly bland (although both know the game).
But as Artosis said, all casters get shit and rarely ever get praised. So whoever they pick WILL get flamed and bitched about, no matter what.
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this is just wishful thinking but perhaps they can give tastosis a bit of freedom to cast both. tastosis don't really cast all that much for GSL anymore.
edit: just watched SOTG and heard artosis say that he and tasteless has a contractual agreement. nvm
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I have no clue of why ppl hate Moletrap so much. Hope the rumors are true, Moletrap fighting!!
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Imo Moletrap is a good pick to cast that!
He has Great Knowledge Of the Game and His voice brings the excitement.
I think He Is One of the most enjoyable casters to watch, at least he knows what He is Talking about, which i cannot say about Husky or HD.
Give him a Chance! He deserves it!
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On May 05 2012 00:54 Aundasch wrote:
Imo Moletrap is a good pick to cast that!
He has Great Knowledge Of the Game and His voice brings the excitement.
I think He Is One of the most enjoyable casters to watch, at least he knows what He is Talking about, which i cannot say about Husky or HD.
Give him a Chance! He deserves it!
Husky and HD are in two different areas. At least husky brings excitment. HD is the worst caster like ever. He's awful. OH MAN HERE COMES A 2 RAX!!! with 12 13 14th scv all qued up in a CC first build.
HD is a joke. Awful.
And how exactly does moletrap 'know about the game'?
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well, this is kind of a dream come true for me! i will finaly be able to watch broodwar with an english comentator, and actually understand what is hapening. as for the sc2 games, if his casting is worse than i remember, i will probably switch to the korean stream.
many new sc2 players(me being one of them) will have a reason to watch bw, and might actually understand and like it if he can explain the games on a simple level.
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I don't like to bash casters because I like to think they all work hard at what they do, but please don't bring Moletrap back. He might get better with more time but the mecca of SC2 tourneys is not the place. GL to him though.
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Man x.x Moletrap is so nice but I just cant stand the dude as a caster.
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I've been watching SC2 since the beta, and Moletrap is the only caster who forces me to mute the stream during his casts.
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You guys are being way too harsh. Moletrap is a top 3 caster. He has a lot of insight of Starcraft 2. he knows the metagame very well. His calls are 99.9999% spot on. His analytical skills can be compared to Artosis, Apollo, Day9, etc. He has a golden broadcasting voice. I wouldn't be surprised if Moletrap is top 16 GM in Korea with random.
Edit: He has TONS of passion for the game. You can tell because of how excited he got; especially in that one Code A game where BoxeR nuked the Protoss.
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Plz no Moletrap, his voice is like Justin Bieber to me. Like teenager that hasn't hit puberty yet.
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Well, I'm not really sure how should I vote.
When Moletrap casted Code A I stopped watching it, I simply couldn't stand the quality of his cast. He has no knowledge of the game or understanding of really basic things.
On the other hand, he does a good job at OGN casting LOL. Maybe if he learned more about SC2 and put some effort in getting better at casting it wouldn't be such a bad idea. I also don't really see any other casters that could do it.
Apollo has a lot of work in EU, Rotterdam is doing Razer Academy, same goes for MrBitter.
Day9 is Day9, Husky ain't that level I guess.
TB doesn't really know SC2.
InControl? That would be cool. Also someone mentioned Grubby, great idea.
Maybe some other foreigners that are in Korea right now? ToD?
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Isnt Moletrap busy casting LoL or have I just misread?
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On May 05 2012 01:20 hanlonbro wrote:
You guys are being way too harsh. Moletrap is a top 3 caster. He has a lot of insight of Starcraft 2. he knows the metagame very well. His calls are 99.9999% spot on. His analytical skills can be compared to Artosis, Apollo, Day9, etc. He has a golden broadcasting voice. I wouldn't be surprised if Moletrap is top 16 GM in Korea with random.
Edit: He has TONS of passion for the game. You can tell because of how excited he got; especially in that one Code A game where BoxeR nuked the Protoss.
nice try moletrap
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On May 05 2012 01:54 Trizz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 01:20 hanlonbro wrote:
You guys are being way too harsh. Moletrap is a top 3 caster. He has a lot of insight of Starcraft 2. he knows the metagame very well. His calls are 99.9999% spot on. His analytical skills can be compared to Artosis, Apollo, Day9, etc. He has a golden broadcasting voice. I wouldn't be surprised if Moletrap is top 16 GM in Korea with random.
Edit: He has TONS of passion for the game. You can tell because of how excited he got; especially in that one Code A game where BoxeR nuked the Protoss. nice try moletrap
This ain't Moletrap, just a non-biased, objective person who can look past superficial values and see the great caster that he is. Do you remember that GSTL game between SlayerS and FXOpen where Oz was on a tear and nobody thought SlayerS would send out Ryung but Moletrap. Then Cella sent out Ryung and all the haters had to shut the fuck up. Moletrap knows more than you will ever about Starcraft.
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I don't have anything aganist the guy itself, but i think as a caster, there are many better casters out there.
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On May 05 2012 02:00 hanlonbro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 01:54 Trizz wrote:On May 05 2012 01:20 hanlonbro wrote:
You guys are being way too harsh. Moletrap is a top 3 caster. He has a lot of insight of Starcraft 2. he knows the metagame very well. His calls are 99.9999% spot on. His analytical skills can be compared to Artosis, Apollo, Day9, etc. He has a golden broadcasting voice. I wouldn't be surprised if Moletrap is top 16 GM in Korea with random.
Edit: He has TONS of passion for the game. You can tell because of how excited he got; especially in that one Code A game where BoxeR nuked the Protoss. nice try moletrap This ain't Moletrap, just a non-biased, objective person who can look past superficial values and see the great caster that he is. Do you remember that GSTL game between SlayerS and FXOpen where Oz was on a tear and nobody thought SlayerS would send out Ryung but Moletrap. Then Cella sent out Ryung and all the haters had to shut the fuck up. Moletrap knows more than you will ever about Starcraft.
Moletrap was like gold last time I saw him stream?? You overrate him a ton imo. He doesn't have a good casting voice either. And that he called that they would send out Ryung might have been a coincidence, pretty weird that that makes someone a good caster maybe he knows the Korean scene I give you that Mr Unbiased...
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On May 05 2012 01:20 hanlonbro wrote:
You guys are being way too harsh. Moletrap is a top 3 caster. He has a lot of insight of Starcraft 2. he knows the metagame very well. His calls are 99.9999% spot on. His analytical skills can be compared to Artosis, Apollo, Day9, etc. He has a golden broadcasting voice. I wouldn't be surprised if Moletrap is top 16 GM in Korea with random.
Edit: He has TONS of passion for the game. You can tell because of how excited he got; especially in that one Code A game where BoxeR nuked the Protoss.
When trolling meets hyperbole?
There's no possible way you could substantiate any of those claims. And that scrub is platinum league by the way.
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This thread is already a piece of s**** but I guess it was expected... Anyway, I think Moletrap is actually one of the few people that would be able to cast a broodwar/starcraft 2 hybrid league. He lacks a bit of charisma, but Torch can make up for it.
I'm happy for the guy, casting a broodwar game for OGN must be a dream come true for him.
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I really don't understand why this community has to bash great casters like Moletrap and HD. I think for the SC2 seasons that OGN are doing, they should hire HD and Moletrap. Both have extensive knowledge and understanding of both BW and SC2. Like Artosis said, there really isn't that many people who know both BW and SC2. The only people are Moletrap and HD because they both have experience, dedication, and skill. Both of these people know what they are talking about when casting more so than most other casters in the world. They are on par with Artosis, Apollo, Day9 in terms of game knowledge and analysis. Hater's gonna hate I guess.
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On May 05 2012 02:23 hanlonbro wrote:
I really don't understand why this community has to bash great casters like Moletrap and HD. I think for the SC2 seasons that OGN are doing, they should hire HD and Moletrap. Both have extensive knowledge and understanding of both BW and SC2. Like Artosis said, there really isn't that many people who know both BW and SC2. The only people are Moletrap and HD because they both have experience, dedication, and skill. Both of these people know what they are talking about when casting more so than most other casters in the world. They are on par with Artosis, Apollo, Day9 in terms of game knowledge and analysis. Hater's gonna hate I guess.
There's a difference, between
(a) Moletrap happens to be the only available and willing person capable of casting BW and SC2 for OGN.
and
(b) on par with Artosis, Apollo and Day9 in terms of game knowledge.
One gets you the job because you're the only choice, the other gets you the job because you're good.
You honestly believe, if Day9 and Artosis applied Moletrap would stand a chance?
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LOL I guess OGN doesn't really care about the foreigner scene if this guy gets the job. Please send over day9 or someone of similar quality, thanks!
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hey moletrap have fun casting LoL cus you ain't coming back here! (LoL)
also not TB :D
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On May 05 2012 02:23 hanlonbro wrote:
I really don't understand why this community has to bash great casters like Moletrap and HD. I think for the SC2 seasons that OGN are doing, they should hire HD and Moletrap. Both have extensive knowledge and understanding of both BW and SC2. Like Artosis said, there really isn't that many people who know both BW and SC2. The only people are Moletrap and HD because they both have experience, dedication, and skill. Both of these people know what they are talking about when casting more so than most other casters in the world. They are on par with Artosis, Apollo, Day9 in terms of game knowledge and analysis. Hater's gonna hate I guess.
Quoted for falsity. If you think Moletrap and HD have good enough game knowledge to satisfy paying customers you are dead wrong. Honestly your standards are too low, it's too bad there are probably so many unknown casters that are great but don't get much spotlight.
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On May 05 2012 02:27 dgwow wrote:
LOL I guess OGN doesn't really care about the foreigner scene if this guy gets the job. Please send over day9 or someone of similar quality, thanks!
They already have people of similar quality. Their names are Torch and Moletrap. But I would not mind HD replacing Torch as not only is HD a better caster than Torch but better than Day9 or Artosis.
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Dear god please no. Please, please no. I hated having to stop watching Code A when he was casting and I am really looking forward to this...Please god no. nooooo ;(.
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Most likely just watch korean cast. :/ I like moletrap just not his casting.
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Come on, Moletrap is now casting LoL and LoL>SC2 in Korea. LoL viewers are also large outside Korea too.
I don't like his casting in SC2 but his LoL casting is one of the best, so I don't think Moletrap will be casting SC2 so just chill.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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i want korean casts with english subtitle dat would be awesome
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If it ultimately happens, honestly what I'm hoping for is that some caster or pro player would stream his audio while watching the game.
That way I could just have both streams on, mute the OGN stream while it doesn't violate any restream restrictions.
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I feel deep pity for Moletrap. The amount of jumping on the bandwagon of hatred people have done to this guy is atrocious. Give him a chance. If he's serious about doing a good job, he would have practised and improved a lot since leaving GOM
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On May 05 2012 02:27 dgwow wrote:
LOL I guess OGN doesn't really care about the foreigner scene if this guy gets the job. Please send over day9 or someone of similar quality, thanks!
Which similar quality commentator to Day9 is:
1) not tied down to other organizations (Tastosis)
2) knows both BW and SC2
That basically eliminates everyone notable besides Moletrap and Apollo
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On May 05 2012 02:34 superLanboy wrote:
I feel deep pity for Moletrap. The amount of jumping on the bandwagon of hatred people have done to this guy is atrocious. Give him a chance. If he's serious about doing a good job, he would have practised and improved a lot since leaving GOM
I'll give you that his general casting skills e.g. charisma, tone might have improved. But there's no way his SC2 knowledge has improved while casting LoL.
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On May 05 2012 02:34 superLanboy wrote:
I feel deep pity for Moletrap. The amount of jumping on the bandwagon of hatred people have done to this guy is atrocious. Give him a chance. If he's serious about doing a good job, he would have practised and improved a lot since leaving GOM
Dont think he will cast SC2 for OGN. Hes enjoying his LoL casting alot. Really, he just sound difference and delightful in LoL. He should stay with LoL since its is bigger in Korea anyway.
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On May 05 2012 02:37 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:27 dgwow wrote:
LOL I guess OGN doesn't really care about the foreigner scene if this guy gets the job. Please send over day9 or someone of similar quality, thanks! Which similar quality commentator to Day9 is: 1) not tied down to other organizations (Tastosis) 2) knows both BW and SC2 That basically eliminates everyone notable besides Moletrap and Apollo
You forgot about HD.
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As pointed ot on State of the Game I think he's perfect for the first season. Just cause he can both cast Sc2 & BW.
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On May 05 2012 02:38 hanlonbro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:37 setzer wrote:On May 05 2012 02:27 dgwow wrote:
LOL I guess OGN doesn't really care about the foreigner scene if this guy gets the job. Please send over day9 or someone of similar quality, thanks! Which similar quality commentator to Day9 is: 1) not tied down to other organizations (Tastosis) 2) knows both BW and SC2 That basically eliminates everyone notable besides Moletrap and Apollo You forgot about HD.
He's with IGN
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Moletrap started off pretty horrible in BW as a caster but imho became pretty dang good, at least I enjoyed watching his videos on youtube back in the day . Give him some time to learn the game better and his casting will improve .
Then again I was not watching the Gom streams in question that everyone " raged on him " for in the first place .
Still if Kespa was going to do both BW and SC2 the point Artosis made about needing caster's that can do both is more than qualified
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On May 05 2012 02:39 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:38 hanlonbro wrote:On May 05 2012 02:37 setzer wrote:On May 05 2012 02:27 dgwow wrote:
LOL I guess OGN doesn't really care about the foreigner scene if this guy gets the job. Please send over day9 or someone of similar quality, thanks! Which similar quality commentator to Day9 is: 1) not tied down to other organizations (Tastosis) 2) knows both BW and SC2 That basically eliminates everyone notable besides Moletrap and Apollo You forgot about HD. He's with IGN
Well if OGN pays him more, he should leave IGN. They both sound similar anyway. A little typo could turn IGN into OGN and vice versa. But I digress. He belongs with OGN because OnGameNet only hires elite casters. He is a top 5 caster, people love him why not hire HD?
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On May 05 2012 02:34 superLanboy wrote:
I feel deep pity for Moletrap. The amount of jumping on the bandwagon of hatred people have done to this guy is atrocious. Give him a chance. If he's serious about doing a good job, he would have practised and improved a lot since leaving GOM
I agree, he improved profusely at BW casting over time
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I REALLY hope he is done with the SC2 community. He got driven away from GOM, hopefully OGN see's that and won't bring him back, but I truly hope the LoL community is liking him. Seems like a nice guy, just a terrible SC2 caster.
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Tasteless and Artosis will probably be available to cast both GSL and OGN.
The Korean's know those two are just as popular as Starcraft itself in the West, they have ALOT of pulling power when it comes to this audience.
I imagine GSL will begin to slow down to accommodate OGN's OSL and Proleague, similar to their setup with the MSL before it. Actually, if presented with the choice between GSL and OSL, Id say the pair would follow the money to OGN, especially Artosis who hasnt got as strong (long running) relationship with GOM as Tasteless does.
This could be the one thing that splits up Tasteless and Artosis, because I have a feeling Artosis will be casting on OGN no matter what happens.
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On May 05 2012 02:45 features wrote:
Tasteless and Artosis will probably be available to cast both GSL and OGN.
The Korean's know those two are just as popular as Starcraft itself in the West, they have ALOT of pulling power when it comes to this audience.
I imagine GSL will begin to slow down to accommodate OGN's OSL and Proleague, similar to their setup with the MSL before it. Actually, if presented with the choice between GSL and OSL, Id say the pair would follow the money to OGN, especially Artosis who hasnt got as strong (long running) relationship with GOM as Tasteless does.
This could be the one thing that splits up Tasteless and Artosis, because I have a feeling Artosis will be casting on OGN no matter what happens.
Why would they want Tastosis if they have a better caster in Moletrap?
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On May 05 2012 02:45 features wrote:
Tasteless and Artosis will probably be available to cast both GSL and OGN.
The Korean's know those two are just as popular as Starcraft itself in the West, they have ALOT of pulling power when it comes to this audience.
I imagine GSL will begin to slow down to accommodate OGN's OSL and Proleague, similar to their setup with the MSL before it. Actually, if presented with the choice between GSL and OSL, Id say the pair would follow the money to OGN, especially Artosis who hasnt got as strong (long running) relationship with GOM as Tasteless does.
This could be the one thing that splits up Tasteless and Artosis, because I have a feeling Artosis will be casting on OGN no matter what happens.
Artosis has said on SOTG that none of the GOM casters have plans to leave GOM for OGN.
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On May 05 2012 02:48 S_SienZ wrote:
Artosis has said on SOTG that none of the GOM casters have plans to leave GOM for OGN.
I havent seen SOTG yet, interesting, gonna have to hear it but thats not a denial of any sort.
OGN likely hasnt made any offers yet and with the first sign of serious competition for GOM in the starcraft 2 world, this is a great opportunity for all the English casters over there to negotiate better wages and earn a better living.
However if Kespa and GOM agree to spread out their tournaments and share casters/resources salaries will likely remain unaffected.
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This is a pointless thread and nothing productive can come out of it. I do hope that major casters and the SOTG hosts make fun of this thread. Has no content other than it's poll since the OP has zero information to offer. What will be accomplished with this thread? It seems pretty clear to me that the OP is probably not in favor of moletrap and created the thread knowing that the poll would be heavily against him. What is the purpose of us having a giant poll denouncing moletrap when there is no realistic alternative for the short term? Do you want OGN to kidnap someone who does well in a TL poll and force him to cast for them? Who do you propose as an alternative to moletrap?
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On May 05 2012 02:00 hanlonbro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 01:54 Trizz wrote:On May 05 2012 01:20 hanlonbro wrote:
You guys are being way too harsh. Moletrap is a top 3 caster. He has a lot of insight of Starcraft 2. he knows the metagame very well. His calls are 99.9999% spot on. His analytical skills can be compared to Artosis, Apollo, Day9, etc. He has a golden broadcasting voice. I wouldn't be surprised if Moletrap is top 16 GM in Korea with random.
Edit: He has TONS of passion for the game. You can tell because of how excited he got; especially in that one Code A game where BoxeR nuked the Protoss. nice try moletrap This ain't Moletrap, just a non-biased, objective person who can look past superficial values and see the great caster that he is. Do you remember that GSTL game between SlayerS and FXOpen where Oz was on a tear and nobody thought SlayerS would send out Ryung but Moletrap. Then Cella sent out Ryung and all the haters had to shut the fuck up. Moletrap knows more than you will ever about Starcraft.
that right call doesnt make up for 98% of the time when he called wrong builds, wrong strats, wrong moves, wrong results, wrong players, all wrong everything. Or the other time when he tried to mimic that one terribad song over and over again that made 99% of the viewers believe that human being shouldnt be born with hearing organs. Dont get me wrong, I usually enjoy most casters (HD, Jp,Husky included), although they make mistakes here and there quite often. But theres no one that is uniquely absurd like him.
Sad memories are sad.
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On May 05 2012 03:03 features wrote:However if Kespa and GOM agree to spread out their tournaments and share casters/resources salaries will likely remain unaffected.
Moletrap has stated that GOM made him choose either GOM or OGN, and as we all know, he picked OGN.
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I would prefer the Korean broadcast over Moletrap.
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i hope ogn makes their korean content available to people outside of korea.
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Thank god I developed immunity against his high pitch voice and how he called players messing up scrubs. But still, god damn it!
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If Moletrap casts i will watch a korean restream.
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On May 05 2012 03:06 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:00 hanlonbro wrote:On May 05 2012 01:54 Trizz wrote:On May 05 2012 01:20 hanlonbro wrote:
You guys are being way too harsh. Moletrap is a top 3 caster. He has a lot of insight of Starcraft 2. he knows the metagame very well. His calls are 99.9999% spot on. His analytical skills can be compared to Artosis, Apollo, Day9, etc. He has a golden broadcasting voice. I wouldn't be surprised if Moletrap is top 16 GM in Korea with random.
Edit: He has TONS of passion for the game. You can tell because of how excited he got; especially in that one Code A game where BoxeR nuked the Protoss. nice try moletrap This ain't Moletrap, just a non-biased, objective person who can look past superficial values and see the great caster that he is. Do you remember that GSTL game between SlayerS and FXOpen where Oz was on a tear and nobody thought SlayerS would send out Ryung but Moletrap. Then Cella sent out Ryung and all the haters had to shut the fuck up. Moletrap knows more than you will ever about Starcraft. that right call doesnt make up for 98% of the time when he called wrong builds, wrong strats, wrong moves, wrong results, wrong players, all wrong everything. Or the other time when he tried to mimic that one terribad song over and over again that made 99% of the viewers believe that human being shouldnt be born with hearing organs. Dont get me wrong, I usually enjoy most casters (HD, Jp,Husky included), although they make mistakes here and there quite often. But theres no one that is uniquely absurd like him. Sad memories are sad.
You are so unbelievably biased and you have so much anger in you. Mob mentality at it's finest in this thread. Someone in a previous mentioned that I overrate Moletrap. Well guess what? The things I listed above were all underrated qualities of him. He's not a top 3 caster, he's a top 1 caster. People just can't get over the fact that there exist a caster that is better than Artosis or Day 9 or whoever. You and a lot of other people are in so much denial it's atrocious.
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On May 05 2012 03:03 features wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:48 S_SienZ wrote:
Artosis has said on SOTG that none of the GOM casters have plans to leave GOM for OGN. I havent seen SOTG yet, interesting, gonna have to hear it but thats not a denial of any sort. OGN likely hasnt made any offers yet and with the first sign of serious competition for GOM in the starcraft 2 world, this is a great opportunity for all the English casters over there to negotiate better wages and earn a better living. However if Kespa and GOM agree to spread out their tournaments and share casters/resources salaries will likely remain unaffected.
He specifically said that if OGN/Kespa gave him an offer to cast for them he wouldn't accept.
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Imo, Moletrap should just be banned from casting. He's horrid.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 05 2012 02:47 hanlonbro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:45 features wrote:
Tasteless and Artosis will probably be available to cast both GSL and OGN.
The Korean's know those two are just as popular as Starcraft itself in the West, they have ALOT of pulling power when it comes to this audience.
I imagine GSL will begin to slow down to accommodate OGN's OSL and Proleague, similar to their setup with the MSL before it. Actually, if presented with the choice between GSL and OSL, Id say the pair would follow the money to OGN, especially Artosis who hasnt got as strong (long running) relationship with GOM as Tasteless does.
This could be the one thing that splits up Tasteless and Artosis, because I have a feeling Artosis will be casting on OGN no matter what happens. Why would they want Tastosis if they have a better caster in Moletrap?
Just stop. We get you're on moletrap's nuts. Are you just some diehard fan, or a family member? Or Moletrap himself?
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On May 05 2012 03:17 Roe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 03:03 features wrote:On May 05 2012 02:48 S_SienZ wrote:
Artosis has said on SOTG that none of the GOM casters have plans to leave GOM for OGN. I havent seen SOTG yet, interesting, gonna have to hear it but thats not a denial of any sort. OGN likely hasnt made any offers yet and with the first sign of serious competition for GOM in the starcraft 2 world, this is a great opportunity for all the English casters over there to negotiate better wages and earn a better living. However if Kespa and GOM agree to spread out their tournaments and share casters/resources salaries will likely remain unaffected. He specifically said that if OGN/Kespa gave him an offer to cast for them he wouldn't accept.
Didn't really expect differently. Tasteless and Artosis have worked for Gom for years and years now, if they had a reason to leave i'm sure they would have years ago.
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I kinda feel sad about Moletrap giving how many people here are showing direct disgust of possibility that he gets job with OGN together with how guys on SotG behaved when he got mentioned. :/
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To put it in Moletraps words: "Oh noooooooooooooooooooo"
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On May 05 2012 02:48 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:45 features wrote:
Tasteless and Artosis will probably be available to cast both GSL and OGN.
The Korean's know those two are just as popular as Starcraft itself in the West, they have ALOT of pulling power when it comes to this audience.
I imagine GSL will begin to slow down to accommodate OGN's OSL and Proleague, similar to their setup with the MSL before it. Actually, if presented with the choice between GSL and OSL, Id say the pair would follow the money to OGN, especially Artosis who hasnt got as strong (long running) relationship with GOM as Tasteless does.
This could be the one thing that splits up Tasteless and Artosis, because I have a feeling Artosis will be casting on OGN no matter what happens. Artosis has said on SOTG that none of the GOM casters have plans to leave GOM for OGN.
Ofc they say that. Doesn't mean things cannot change in the future. Regardless you guys have many options out there if you want to really see the games.
On May 05 2012 03:19 yoshi245 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:47 hanlonbro wrote:On May 05 2012 02:45 features wrote:
Tasteless and Artosis will probably be available to cast both GSL and OGN.
The Korean's know those two are just as popular as Starcraft itself in the West, they have ALOT of pulling power when it comes to this audience.
I imagine GSL will begin to slow down to accommodate OGN's OSL and Proleague, similar to their setup with the MSL before it. Actually, if presented with the choice between GSL and OSL, Id say the pair would follow the money to OGN, especially Artosis who hasnt got as strong (long running) relationship with GOM as Tasteless does.
This could be the one thing that splits up Tasteless and Artosis, because I have a feeling Artosis will be casting on OGN no matter what happens. Why would they want Tastosis if they have a better caster in Moletrap? Just stop. We get you're on moletrap's nuts. Are you just some diehard fan, or a family member? Or Moletrap himself?
1. In jest
2. Isn't that true for typically any fanboy?
Give me a break.
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On May 05 2012 03:15 hanlonbro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 03:06 Arceus wrote:On May 05 2012 02:00 hanlonbro wrote:On May 05 2012 01:54 Trizz wrote:On May 05 2012 01:20 hanlonbro wrote:
You guys are being way too harsh. Moletrap is a top 3 caster. He has a lot of insight of Starcraft 2. he knows the metagame very well. His calls are 99.9999% spot on. His analytical skills can be compared to Artosis, Apollo, Day9, etc. He has a golden broadcasting voice. I wouldn't be surprised if Moletrap is top 16 GM in Korea with random.
Edit: He has TONS of passion for the game. You can tell because of how excited he got; especially in that one Code A game where BoxeR nuked the Protoss. nice try moletrap This ain't Moletrap, just a non-biased, objective person who can look past superficial values and see the great caster that he is. Do you remember that GSTL game between SlayerS and FXOpen where Oz was on a tear and nobody thought SlayerS would send out Ryung but Moletrap. Then Cella sent out Ryung and all the haters had to shut the fuck up. Moletrap knows more than you will ever about Starcraft. that right call doesnt make up for 98% of the time when he called wrong builds, wrong strats, wrong moves, wrong results, wrong players, all wrong everything. Or the other time when he tried to mimic that one terribad song over and over again that made 99% of the viewers believe that human being shouldnt be born with hearing organs. Dont get me wrong, I usually enjoy most casters (HD, Jp,Husky included), although they make mistakes here and there quite often. But theres no one that is uniquely absurd like him. Sad memories are sad. You are so unbelievably biased and you have so much anger in you. Mob mentality at it's finest in this thread. Someone in a previous mentioned that I overrate Moletrap. Well guess what? The things I listed above were all underrated qualities of him. He's not a top 3 caster, he's a top 1 caster. People just can't get over the fact that there exist a caster that is better than Artosis or Day 9 or whoever. You and a lot of other people are in so much denial it's atrocious.
Just ignore this guy. Obvious troll is obvious.
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Moletrap knows the BW scene, most SC2 casters don't know much about it. He is actually a great choice for a transition caster. He always does his homework on players and he can help share the BW player's legacys to the SC2 scene.
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On May 05 2012 03:34 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 02:48 S_SienZ wrote:On May 05 2012 02:45 features wrote:
Tasteless and Artosis will probably be available to cast both GSL and OGN.
The Korean's know those two are just as popular as Starcraft itself in the West, they have ALOT of pulling power when it comes to this audience.
I imagine GSL will begin to slow down to accommodate OGN's OSL and Proleague, similar to their setup with the MSL before it. Actually, if presented with the choice between GSL and OSL, Id say the pair would follow the money to OGN, especially Artosis who hasnt got as strong (long running) relationship with GOM as Tasteless does.
This could be the one thing that splits up Tasteless and Artosis, because I have a feeling Artosis will be casting on OGN no matter what happens. Artosis has said on SOTG that none of the GOM casters have plans to leave GOM for OGN. Ofc they say that. Doesn't mean things cannot change in the future. Regardless you guys have many options out there if you want to really see the games. Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 03:19 yoshi245 wrote:On May 05 2012 02:47 hanlonbro wrote:On May 05 2012 02:45 features wrote:
Tasteless and Artosis will probably be available to cast both GSL and OGN.
The Korean's know those two are just as popular as Starcraft itself in the West, they have ALOT of pulling power when it comes to this audience.
I imagine GSL will begin to slow down to accommodate OGN's OSL and Proleague, similar to their setup with the MSL before it. Actually, if presented with the choice between GSL and OSL, Id say the pair would follow the money to OGN, especially Artosis who hasnt got as strong (long running) relationship with GOM as Tasteless does.
This could be the one thing that splits up Tasteless and Artosis, because I have a feeling Artosis will be casting on OGN no matter what happens. Why would they want Tastosis if they have a better caster in Moletrap? Just stop. We get you're on moletrap's nuts. Are you just some diehard fan, or a family member? Or Moletrap himself? 1. In jest o 2. Isn't that true for typically any fanboy? Give me a break.
Sure, who knows what will happen.
But given that the NEXT ProLeague is coming up real soon. At the very least it's pretty safe to conclude the Gom casters won't be casting that PL if they still haven't been approached / no new Gom casters have been announced.
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What a needlessly catty thread.
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On May 05 2012 03:54 Ix0n wrote:
What a needlessly catty thread.
moletrap forced our hand
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On May 05 2012 03:40 GeorgeH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 03:15 hanlonbro wrote:On May 05 2012 03:06 Arceus wrote:On May 05 2012 02:00 hanlonbro wrote:On May 05 2012 01:54 Trizz wrote:On May 05 2012 01:20 hanlonbro wrote:
You guys are being way too harsh. Moletrap is a top 3 caster. He has a lot of insight of Starcraft 2. he knows the metagame very well. His calls are 99.9999% spot on. His analytical skills can be compared to Artosis, Apollo, Day9, etc. He has a golden broadcasting voice. I wouldn't be surprised if Moletrap is top 16 GM in Korea with random.
Edit: He has TONS of passion for the game. You can tell because of how excited he got; especially in that one Code A game where BoxeR nuked the Protoss. nice try moletrap This ain't Moletrap, just a non-biased, objective person who can look past superficial values and see the great caster that he is. Do you remember that GSTL game between SlayerS and FXOpen where Oz was on a tear and nobody thought SlayerS would send out Ryung but Moletrap. Then Cella sent out Ryung and all the haters had to shut the fuck up. Moletrap knows more than you will ever about Starcraft. that right call doesnt make up for 98% of the time when he called wrong builds, wrong strats, wrong moves, wrong results, wrong players, all wrong everything. Or the other time when he tried to mimic that one terribad song over and over again that made 99% of the viewers believe that human being shouldnt be born with hearing organs. Dont get me wrong, I usually enjoy most casters (HD, Jp,Husky included), although they make mistakes here and there quite often. But theres no one that is uniquely absurd like him. Sad memories are sad. You are so unbelievably biased and you have so much anger in you. Mob mentality at it's finest in this thread. Someone in a previous mentioned that I overrate Moletrap. Well guess what? The things I listed above were all underrated qualities of him. He's not a top 3 caster, he's a top 1 caster. People just can't get over the fact that there exist a caster that is better than Artosis or Day 9 or whoever. You and a lot of other people are in so much denial it's atrocious. Just ignore this guy. Obvious troll is obvious.
Obvious hater is obvious.
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