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There is some real top quality conspiracy reasoning going on here. No way could any BW pro actually like playing SC2. If they say they do, then they're probably just being forced to by the evil corporations who want to punish BW fans for being so passionate and deep thinkers.
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On April 26 2012 23:21 Nimic wrote:
There is some real top quality conspiracy reasoning going on here. No way could any BW pro actually like playing SC2. If they say they do, then they're probably just being forced to by the evil corporations who want to punish BW fans for being so passionate and deep thinkers.
Stop being such a Brood War elitist man. Haha. I used to be one myself but you can definitely snap out of it and give SC2 a chance
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Really happy he will enjoy playing it! Well be awesome to see how well the BW pros are able to play.
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No BW elite play SC2 with Protoss? Kinda sad :/
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On April 26 2012 23:20 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 23:05 howLiN wrote:On April 26 2012 19:18 Sawamura wrote:On April 26 2012 19:16 howLiN wrote:On April 26 2012 18:49 lightrise wrote:
This is gonna be sick. Im surprised there isnt more nerdgasm in this thread. Everyone's favorite Bonjwa is switching over. Can't wait to see if he can live up to all the hype. It will be a battle to become as dominant as he was in sc1. The reason there isn't more nerdgasm is because this thread was moved from the BW forums, and BW fanboys are really bitter over any news like this that shows up. Not bitter at all when Flash is winning gsl 6 times in a row and foreigners can't do anything about it  . So yeah can't wait for my ultimate weapon to unleash his power of destruction . Yup, this is what I was talking about. Also, he's not your ultimate weapon. You don't get to relate to someone's wins just because you like the game he's playing. That's what underachievers do. What ever floats your boat man, this guy's work much more harder at the game than anyone else will do and it's really a personal term when you are a kt fan .My ultimate weapon really sounds like my team ace and so what has got to do with being an underachiever huh ? . Let's just say you want to prolong this discussion any longer I can take it in pm . Any time any where...
You guys didn't want this thread on BW forums, so what the hell are you doing here? Other than trying to demean SC2 of course, as if Flash or anyone else is gonna win 6 GSLs in a row. We get it, you guys are pissed off, now you need either to get over it because the switch is actually happening no matter what you say, or just go away if you can't take this.
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While I really want BW to live on (and thereby having Flash still playing it), I'm stoked to see how good he'll be in SC2. Whether he's actually enjoying it, only he can answer and there's no reason to speculate about it. It might feel good to try something new after all these years, even though it's not as skill-dependent.
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Can you guys imagine what would happen if Flash decided to stream his starcraft 2 playing. holy -. I guess idrA wouldnt be the guy who gets the most viewers anymore:p
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On April 26 2012 23:08 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 23:01 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:44 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 22:43 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:30 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 22:28 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:26 Heh_ wrote:On April 26 2012 22:09 Rainmansc wrote:
The reason why no pro BW player would play protoss is simple. Since protoss is a more strategic race in sc2. Its not like protoss is really skill based in sc2 due to warpgate and collosi. When will the protoss bashing stop... If protoss is the easy race, why don't you play it and win a GSL for us? Please, stop with the endless stream of complaints. he's right. protoss has a lower skill ceiling than Terran or zerg in sc2. things like collosus absolutely are mindless units. Pros like bisu etc can maximize the potential of Terran with their skills way more than protoss. He is right because now you are 2 saying so. thanks =] I guarantee you most korean pros will say the same thing, Terran has a much higher skill ceiling than protoss Oh, now it must be true cause you guarantee what pros will say. I think protoss should actually be taken out from competitive play. no, with expansions and patches hopefully blizzard can make this game much better, like they did for sc1 to bw. you're talking nonsense now, because you're getting emotional. Do you play protoss? I am sarcastic because you talk to not shut up. Show nested quote +Very many games are, in TvP if you are out of position with your ghosts and you get stormed/forcefielded then you just melt. In TvZ when your marines are clumped up and you get fungaled, burrowed banelings etc. A protoss is extremely dependend on sentry, immortal, collosus, HT. Lose any of those and gg. As teran you have a ball that you need to take care off. If you get stormed you are really bad.
Wow, that is so wrong. Terran is the most harass/multiprolonged attacking race in the game, Toss is wayyy more bally. I guess most Code S terrans are also really bad, whatever I'm not even going to discuss with you.
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On April 26 2012 23:28 howLiN wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 23:20 Sawamura wrote:On April 26 2012 23:05 howLiN wrote:On April 26 2012 19:18 Sawamura wrote:On April 26 2012 19:16 howLiN wrote:On April 26 2012 18:49 lightrise wrote:
This is gonna be sick. Im surprised there isnt more nerdgasm in this thread. Everyone's favorite Bonjwa is switching over. Can't wait to see if he can live up to all the hype. It will be a battle to become as dominant as he was in sc1. The reason there isn't more nerdgasm is because this thread was moved from the BW forums, and BW fanboys are really bitter over any news like this that shows up. Not bitter at all when Flash is winning gsl 6 times in a row and foreigners can't do anything about it . So yeah can't wait for my ultimate weapon to unleash his power of destruction . Yup, this is what I was talking about. Also, he's not your ultimate weapon. You don't get to relate to someone's wins just because you like the game he's playing. That's what underachievers do. What ever floats your boat man, this guy's work much more harder at the game than anyone else will do and it's really a personal term when you are a kt fan .My ultimate weapon really sounds like my team ace and so what has got to do with being an underachiever huh ? . Let's just say you want to prolong this discussion any longer I can take it in pm . Any time any where... You guys didn't want this thread on BW forums, so what the hell are you doing here? Other than trying to demean SC2 of course, as if Flash or anyone else is gonna win 6 GSLs in a row. We get it, you guys are pissed off, now you need either to get over it because the switch is actually happening no matter what you say, or just go away if you can't take this.
It's not about I can't take it man I am actually happy my players are actually going to go to sc2 you see . They getting more viewer ship and more fan base is actually a win win situation for kt rolster . If that's the case it will be fun seeing my players cause some ruckus in the once happy sc2 land .
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On April 26 2012 23:11 Chewbacca. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 22:55 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 22:54 huehuehuehue wrote:On April 26 2012 22:49 Heh_ wrote:On April 26 2012 22:43 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:30 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 22:28 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:26 Heh_ wrote:On April 26 2012 22:09 Rainmansc wrote:
The reason why no pro BW player would play protoss is simple. Since protoss is a more strategic race in sc2. Its not like protoss is really skill based in sc2 due to warpgate and collosi. When will the protoss bashing stop... If protoss is the easy race, why don't you play it and win a GSL for us? Please, stop with the endless stream of complaints. he's right. protoss has a lower skill ceiling than Terran or zerg in sc2. things like collosus absolutely are mindless units. Pros like bisu etc can maximize the potential of Terran with their skills way more than protoss. He is right because now you are 2 saying so. thanks =] I guarantee you most korean pros will say the same thing, Terran has a much higher skill ceiling than protoss If protoss is so easy to play, please, PLEASE win a GSL for me using the easy race. Protoss is like a glass cannon. One mis-micro, and everything dies. Their units may seem tanky, but they die so quick unless you have excellent positioning/forcefields. There is WAY more of that as Terran. How many games are instant loss for terran by one visible mistake? You are WAY more a fanboy than you should. Basically every game vs zerg when the terran is caught unsieged. Heh_: They aren't saying that protoss is is easy to play or that protoss players are less skilled than other players. They are saying that the terran race has the most potential for players with massive apm. This is because terran has the best options for tasking your opponents apm with all of their drops and because terran benefits the most from things like good stutter step micro/splitting capabilities. Yes there are a lot of things protoss/zerg can do with greater apm, such as blink micro/better FF or better injects, but just not as much as terran
That's probably the most accurate comment of the last 4 pages IMO ... And I play random so no Terran fanboy bias here. It's just obvious considering everything that can be done with only marines that Terrans HAVE the most potential for high APM play. I mean, just put a BOT to play the game and ask him to play in the most efficient way it can, you'll see the APM rise higher when bot is controlling Terran. At some point, more APM won't bring anything to the Protoss player when at the same point they would still allow the Terran player to be more efficient than he is.
Now I'm not saying Terran imba, they got a whole lot of weaknesses in their mechanisms. But as far as APM goes, Terran is the race that will value it the most.
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On April 26 2012 23:29 Pera wrote:
Can you guys imagine what would happen if Flash decided to stream his starcraft 2 playing. holy -. I guess idrA wouldnt be the guy who gets the most viewers anymore:p
Idra isn't getting all that viewership only based on his skill but because...well he is Idra and it's fun to watch him rage
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On April 26 2012 23:31 huehuehuehue wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 23:08 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 23:01 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:44 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 22:43 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:30 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 22:28 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:26 Heh_ wrote:On April 26 2012 22:09 Rainmansc wrote:
The reason why no pro BW player would play protoss is simple. Since protoss is a more strategic race in sc2. Its not like protoss is really skill based in sc2 due to warpgate and collosi. When will the protoss bashing stop... If protoss is the easy race, why don't you play it and win a GSL for us? Please, stop with the endless stream of complaints. he's right. protoss has a lower skill ceiling than Terran or zerg in sc2. things like collosus absolutely are mindless units. Pros like bisu etc can maximize the potential of Terran with their skills way more than protoss. He is right because now you are 2 saying so. thanks =] I guarantee you most korean pros will say the same thing, Terran has a much higher skill ceiling than protoss Oh, now it must be true cause you guarantee what pros will say. I think protoss should actually be taken out from competitive play. no, with expansions and patches hopefully blizzard can make this game much better, like they did for sc1 to bw. you're talking nonsense now, because you're getting emotional. Do you play protoss? I am sarcastic because you talk to not shut up. Very many games are, in TvP if you are out of position with your ghosts and you get stormed/forcefielded then you just melt. In TvZ when your marines are clumped up and you get fungaled, burrowed banelings etc. A protoss is extremely dependend on sentry, immortal, collosus, HT. Lose any of those and gg. As teran you have a ball that you need to take care off. If you get stormed you are really bad. Wow, that is so wrong. Terran is the most harass/multiprolonged attacking race in the game, Toss is wayyy more bally. I guess most Code S terrans are also really bad, whatever I'm not even going to discuss with you.
What does it matter? I am talking about what's IN THE BALL. Protoss has core units. Terran is mass human ants. Lose one? Doesn't matter there are more where that come from.
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Also He isnt getting the most viewers anymore, thanks to stephano <3
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On April 26 2012 23:32 papaz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 23:29 Pera wrote:
Can you guys imagine what would happen if Flash decided to stream his starcraft 2 playing. holy -. I guess idrA wouldnt be the guy who gets the most viewers anymore:p Idra isn't getting all that viewership only based on his skill but because...well he is Idra and it's fun to watch him rage
And I think Stepahno's amount of viewer topped Idra long ago ... (Don't know about how Idra did in the BW days though ...)
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Please play protoss Stork :/
edit: or Jangbi
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On April 26 2012 06:55 professorjoak wrote:
If one of these players would switch to Random, I'd definitely cheer for them and watch their games. Probably won't happen though.
Why would they switch to random?
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It'll be super interesting to see if same players who where the top of the top in BW will be able to take that place in SC2. I wouldn't be too suprised if some of them turned out to be only decent korean sc2 pros, meanwhile some lesser known BW players might become top notch. As we have to remember, sc2 does not have a super similar skill set required as BW.
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On April 26 2012 23:38 Moxi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 06:55 professorjoak wrote:
If one of these players would switch to Random, I'd definitely cheer for them and watch their games. Probably won't happen though. Why would they switch to random?
He just said they probably would not?
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On April 26 2012 23:36 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 23:31 huehuehuehue wrote:On April 26 2012 23:08 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 23:01 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:44 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 22:43 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:30 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 22:28 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:26 Heh_ wrote:On April 26 2012 22:09 Rainmansc wrote:
The reason why no pro BW player would play protoss is simple. Since protoss is a more strategic race in sc2. Its not like protoss is really skill based in sc2 due to warpgate and collosi. When will the protoss bashing stop... If protoss is the easy race, why don't you play it and win a GSL for us? Please, stop with the endless stream of complaints. he's right. protoss has a lower skill ceiling than Terran or zerg in sc2. things like collosus absolutely are mindless units. Pros like bisu etc can maximize the potential of Terran with their skills way more than protoss. He is right because now you are 2 saying so. thanks =] I guarantee you most korean pros will say the same thing, Terran has a much higher skill ceiling than protoss Oh, now it must be true cause you guarantee what pros will say. I think protoss should actually be taken out from competitive play. no, with expansions and patches hopefully blizzard can make this game much better, like they did for sc1 to bw. you're talking nonsense now, because you're getting emotional. Do you play protoss? I am sarcastic because you talk to not shut up. Very many games are, in TvP if you are out of position with your ghosts and you get stormed/forcefielded then you just melt. In TvZ when your marines are clumped up and you get fungaled, burrowed banelings etc. A protoss is extremely dependend on sentry, immortal, collosus, HT. Lose any of those and gg. As teran you have a ball that you need to take care off. If you get stormed you are really bad. Wow, that is so wrong. Terran is the most harass/multiprolonged attacking race in the game, Toss is wayyy more bally. I guess most Code S terrans are also really bad, whatever I'm not even going to discuss with you. What does it matter? I am talking about what's IN THE BALL. Protoss has core units. Terran is mass human ants. Lose one? Doesn't matter there are more where that come from.
Lol, seriously?
Dude, just please stop. You're not only making yourself look stupid, but also giving Protoss a bad name.
Just stop.
Yea, you're witty. Nice sarcasm.
It doesn't make you look smart though, only sad.
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On April 26 2012 23:48 `dunedain wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 23:36 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 23:31 huehuehuehue wrote:On April 26 2012 23:08 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 23:01 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:44 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 22:43 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:30 ceaRshaf wrote:On April 26 2012 22:28 jj33 wrote:On April 26 2012 22:26 Heh_ wrote:
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When will the protoss bashing stop... If protoss is the easy race, why don't you play it and win a GSL for us? Please, stop with the endless stream of complaints. he's right. protoss has a lower skill ceiling than Terran or zerg in sc2. things like collosus absolutely are mindless units. Pros like bisu etc can maximize the potential of Terran with their skills way more than protoss. He is right because now you are 2 saying so. thanks =] I guarantee you most korean pros will say the same thing, Terran has a much higher skill ceiling than protoss Oh, now it must be true cause you guarantee what pros will say. I think protoss should actually be taken out from competitive play. no, with expansions and patches hopefully blizzard can make this game much better, like they did for sc1 to bw. you're talking nonsense now, because you're getting emotional. Do you play protoss? I am sarcastic because you talk to not shut up. Very many games are, in TvP if you are out of position with your ghosts and you get stormed/forcefielded then you just melt. In TvZ when your marines are clumped up and you get fungaled, burrowed banelings etc. A protoss is extremely dependend on sentry, immortal, collosus, HT. Lose any of those and gg. As teran you have a ball that you need to take care off. If you get stormed you are really bad. Wow, that is so wrong. Terran is the most harass/multiprolonged attacking race in the game, Toss is wayyy more bally. I guess most Code S terrans are also really bad, whatever I'm not even going to discuss with you. What does it matter? I am talking about what's IN THE BALL. Protoss has core units. Terran is mass human ants. Lose one? Doesn't matter there are more where that come from. Lol, seriously? Dude, just please stop. You're not only making yourself look stupid, but also giving Protoss a bad name. Just stop. Yea, you're witty. Nice sarcasm. It doesn't make you look smart though, only sad.
You said actually nothing to prove anything.
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