Yeah, with unknown/new teams you really should not pay for travel in advance and demand the salary at the 15th of a month.

If a team cannot fulfil that they are definitely overextending themselves and you should be warned.

nAm

France39 Posts

March 31 2012 16:20 GMT

#23

Sad story..
Good luck for the future.

onPHYRE

Bulgaria888 Posts

March 31 2012 16:21 GMT

#24

Wow really a bum deal, I feel bad for all players involved.

FnaticNaama

Finland120 Posts

March 31 2012 16:24 GMT

#25

People like them destroy esports....

Duggibobo

Sweden111 Posts

March 31 2012 16:26 GMT

#26

I talked to Eclypsia player Poullieux today and he said that the team was doing fine, and that it was nice and upcomming.
He said nothing about this, but this sounds really weird. A lot of people has been talking about this, and it's been really serious.
Why would any1 ever troll 5 very good players and a whole community to get nothing out of it ? There gotta be something wrong, I'm quite sure they're not scamming you.

If it was this serious and they had a lot of money, you've got to been talking to the staff via phone etc right?

Well, anyhow this sounds weird. Hopefully everything will get solved.

KillAudio

1364 Posts

March 31 2012 16:27 GMT

#27

This would be a terrible april fool's joke. Goodluck man!

DoomsVille

Canada4885 Posts

March 31 2012 16:31 GMT

#28

On April 01 2012 01:26 Duggibobo wrote:
I talked to Eclypsia player Poullieux today and he said that the team was doing fine, and that it was nice and upcomming.
He said nothing about this, but this sounds really weird. A lot of people has been talking about this, and it's been really serious.
Why would any1 ever troll 5 very good players and a whole community to get nothing out of it ? There gotta be something wrong, I'm quite sure they're not scamming you.

If it was this serious and they had a lot of money, you've got to been talking to the staff via phone etc right?

Well, anyhow this sounds weird. Hopefully everything will get solved.

More than likely it's not a scam. At some point someone probably realized they didn't have the budget to run a team and then decided to call it quits or something.

Hope you guys figure something out or find another team!

Arcanefrost

Belgium1257 Posts

March 31 2012 16:34 GMT

#29

Do you have a contract? If yes, you should considering taking legal action. A joint claim from all the players would probably be your best choice. Let's hope it's all just a misunderstanding though...

snively

United States1159 Posts

March 31 2012 16:36 GMT

#30

who plays a joke like that? thats terrible.

try sueing them >

shArklight

Singapore160 Posts

March 31 2012 16:37 GMT

#31

On April 01 2012 01:08 UmiNotsuki wrote:
The site countdown is at 0 now, is that recent? If so...

April Fools. They got you, and this is no joke.

His pay didn't come in for 2 weeks...so the 'joke' was a little premature :/

Badfatpanda

United States9719 Posts

March 31 2012 16:39 GMT

#32

It's unfortunate and I really feel for all involved, you'll incur additional expenses until the litigation is ended but I suggesting suing them for all you can get. I'm not terribly familiar with EU law so I can't really advise you further but you should consider getting a legal consult.

gl

mockturtle

United States220 Posts

March 31 2012 16:40 GMT

#33

On April 01 2012 01:02 Welmu wrote:
Hello guys,

I joined a new team, Eclypsia, on March 8th. I put a lot of confidence in them, declining other offers. Eclypsia seemed very ambitious with a large budget, good contacts and a solid plan to give the players they recruited the best possible conditions to improve. Everything went fine at first, wages paid by the hour, very good coaching, superb communication. No reason to worry.

Then the Copenhagen Games approached. In accordance with what had been agreed, I booked the hotel and flight myself, on the understanding I’d be payed back along with my salary... But my salary has not been paid for nearly two weeks. In that time I’ve had enormous problems getting in touch with representatives of the team. It seemed hard to believe that this was a coincidence and I started to worry a lot.

After speaking to my teammates it seems that I am far from alone in this case. Eclypsia seems to have stopped responding.

I didn’t want to have to resort to these methods, but it seems obvious now that I will not receive my salary, that the countdown to the launch of their website www.eclypsia.com was actually a scam, and that they have screwed us.

Welmu

So you changed your ID to represent this new team, they paid you some money but not all they promised, and then tricked you into buying your own plane ticket?

You were not screwed. This is not called a "scam". This is called "a group of children playing at business and someone fell down and skinned his knee". Change your ID back and enjoy the trip you paid for.

Hilarious @ everyone telling you to sue. As if a typical pro Starcraft player contract is for enough of a salary to cover the cost of office supplies and gas to file the lawsuit.

Holy_AT

Austria978 Posts

March 31 2012 16:41 GMT

#34

It might be the case that the op is part of the aprils joke aswell or that he simply wants to raise publicity for this website.
The story seems very awkward to me.

JackDragon

525 Posts

March 31 2012 16:42 GMT

#35

I don't think it is a scam either. Rhater some people who maybe did not plan as they should. From what I know they don't have any real sponsors so they problebly did not generate any income. And when they realised that they went above the budget they decieded that maybe they needed to close down the project. I don't know who runs Eclypsia or their origin.. And I was suspicius at the start, but we will see. I hav eto say though, if they already went above the budget they had before they even got started... I hope you can tell us who runs Eclypsia so that other players can stay away from such horrible management.

That said, I hope you can keep us uppdated Welmu, because while 2 weeks is a long time without salary or conntact, it is by no means uncomon in the world of e-sports, perhaps they have a good reason, perhaps they don't. In any case I hope i gets solved soon.

Edit: Holy_AT I don't think that an april's fool joke about your team not paying you is very good... for any of the parties. it is only bad atention and is very very serious accusation.

Firesilver

United Kingdom1190 Posts

March 31 2012 16:42 GMT

#36

Wow this is terrible. Welmu is a great guy, sad to see him screwed over like this, hope either Eclypsia get their act together or he gets his money back.