EPTOrb, racist remarks on ladder and personal stream - Page 69
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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations. | ||
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hordala
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Veles
United States3280 Posts
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JustinL
Australia58 Posts
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Danzo
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:10 Esorydal wrote: so true this is not proffesional at all im frankly shocked that EG even hired someone like this..... No, accountants are professionals. Doctors are professionals. They have certain pre-determined sets of rules and ethics that need to be adhered to, and thus the word "professional" here actually means something more than just "a person who does something for a living". Just because "professional gamer" has the word "professional" in it, doesn't mean Orb is a fucking professional. He's a "professional gamer" in the sense that he plays games for a living, however it does not qualify him for anything more. Orb fucked up, there's no doubt about that especially considering his relationship with EG, but please get real and don't bring up that "gamers are professionals and thus should adhere to principles/ethics and have the responsibility to grow E-sports etc etc" bullshit. He's just a dude who plays games for money who failed to considered the consequences of his actions. Simple as that. Edit: On March 09 2012 11:15 Dont-Panic wrote: It's not about professionalism. It's about people with too much time doing everything to ruin someones life while feeling like moral authorities. Exactly, but most people just bandwagon the drama; they don't even fucking truly understand what professionalism is and just throws the word around. | ||
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Dont-Panic
Germany567 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:11 Mr Showtime wrote: It's about professionalism. Orb acted like a child and will be punished accordingly by his employers. There isn't much more to this. It's not about professionalism. It's about people with too much time doing everything to ruin someones life while feeling like moral authorities. | ||
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critique
United States135 Posts
that would be liable. Slander is spoken; liable is written. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:10 EngrishTeacher wrote: I've BM'ed using that word before, although I'm not a racist in any means. It's just part of the NA culture, TONS of people do it. Actually, TONS of people DON'T do it. Only cowards and rage-nerds do. | ||
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Danzo
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Goliath0nline
Canada165 Posts
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garbodor
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On March 09 2012 11:16 critique wrote: EXCUSE ME SIR, that would be liable. Slander is spoken; liable is written. It's irrelevant because both suggest that what is being said isn't true. | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:11 cameler wrote: Well, what do you want? If you go by the numbers, you've got Destiny, in all his glory, STILL raking in the viewers. That's like almost half the community. So how about you people stop fantasizing about what kind of "community" you've really built. Have you watched destiny's stream? People say he's some badass who says what ever the fuck he wants. I've been watching him for a long time now and I can't recall a time where he's used race to insult someone. It's usually along the lines of your mother should be ashamed, your birth certificate is actually a letter of apology etc. And even then its been toned down soooo much now that hes on a team. Everyone just thinks that because he went on and defends the n word on sotg(or w/e it was) he says it everyday...when i've never heard him say it unless he was talking about the use of it. edit: and people say this isn't a issue. But anything the community sees as a issue is a issue. As long as it upsets them so much that they will stop supporting x team/y product because of the issue teams are going to take it seriously no matter how big or small it is(remember when there was a big thread about profanity that some casters used). If the community thought saying the word noob was a disgraceful thing and anyone who said was a vile evil person and they would boycot teams who supported players/casters who said it. You can bet the team will take action against the player/caster... IF there is actual backlash from the community(boycoting resulting in reduced viewership etc etc). | ||
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LaM
United States1321 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:16 critique wrote: EXCUSE ME SIR, that would be liable. Slander is spoken; liable is written. EXCUSE ME SIR, that would be libel. Liable is being accountable for something, libel is written. | ||
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Rorschach
United States623 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:14 Veles wrote: The upshot of all of this is that Orb is my favorite caster. If he gets the boot, I will get more work done. If he gets booted instead of just suspend over this I will cry. He is the BEST solo caster and only better casters are Tasteosis. Fuck the reddit community and the TL posters who jumped on the bandwagon. | ||
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Gryffes
United Kingdom763 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:16 critique wrote: EXCUSE ME SIR, that would be liable. Slander is spoken; liable is written. For someone trying to correct someone, you should at least check you're using the correct word :D | ||
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lolstarz
Canada65 Posts
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Korelle
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It's really easy to not be racist guys, just give it a try. | ||
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:15 Dont-Panic wrote: It's not about professionalism. It's about people with too much time doing everything to ruin someones life while feeling like moral authorities. No it's about professionalism. If he gets away with crap like this it sets a precedent for other players to get away with crap like this. Thus eSports looks childish and unprofessional and will have a harder time being taken seriously. Further more, Orb could have confessed and apologized instead of try to refute what were legitimate claims. He handled it childishly. All he had to do was confess and admit he made a mistake and there would be none of this. | ||
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Bulldog654
United States79 Posts
Anyway it didn't take long for him to start raging about how imbalanced the game was, someone in his chat said David Kim is a faggot, then he responded "thats right, david kim is a faggot!" or something to that effect. I turned his stream off because i can't stand whining, not because of his language. I am not gay, so i am not offended if someone says faggot, and im not black so im not offended if someone says nigger, and reading through the reddit post and seeing all the righteous indignation makes me sick, because i would bet all the money in my wallet that the vast majority of the people waving their pitchforks don't actually care about his language, they just see blood in the water and want to feel righteous for a while. | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
On March 09 2012 11:11 Mr Showtime wrote: There are too many posts in this thread that just don't get it. This isn't about racism, homophobia, or whatever. It's about professionalism. Orb acted like a child and will be punished accordingly by his employers. There isn't much more to this. Act like a child? Denying truth is acting like a child? You made politicians giggle. Will be punished? Who are you to use such an affirmation? Do you know anything about disciplinary rules? (hint : not a real question, your very post says you don't) This thread is a compilation of uneducated and hateful comments. It is indeed outrageous to see people act as if they were remotely concerned when they clearly are not. This is worst than Sparta, Sadness. | ||
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