EPTRegardless of whether you think the word has lost its racist connotation or not, the simple fact is that on the net, the offending party has no way of knowing whether the person he's addressing is black or not, and if they are indeed black, this is a grave offense.
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chestnutcc
India429 Posts
Regardless of whether you think the word has lost its racist connotation or not, the simple fact is that on the net, the offending party has no way of knowing whether the person he's addressing is black or not, and if they are indeed black, this is a grave offense. | ||
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
Acting like a prepubescent pre-tween while hosting several community shows AND being under the EG tag doesn't seem wise to me. You do not deserve to be in such a wonderful community. cy@ | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:32 VirgilSC2 wrote: .....calling someone a "nigger" or a "faggot" isn't a crime. Firing someone because they said those things isn't either. IdrA plays for EG and promotes sponsors all the time, all Orb has is his professionalism as a caster, if he's caught on multiple occasions not being professional, he loses all his worth to EG, and thus they can fire him all they'd like. | ||
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Razuik
United States409 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:25 VirgilSC2 wrote: Yeah, I do. If you want to persecute every single person who's ever used an inflammatory comment on their stream, or while being played on someone else's stream, or on TeamLiquid I think you'll find yourself left with no foreign scene whatsoever. Honestly, some crimes aren't worth persecuting. Look at Wal-Mart and CVS, they lose millions a year in petty theft, but they'd lose even more if they persecuted everyone who steals a pack of gum. If walmart made a staunch example out of a particularly notorious gum thief, there would be less people who would want to steal gum as a whole. | ||
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Takezou
United States320 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:32 Dfgj wrote: Ladder BM is news now? Ladder BM isn't. However, being stupid enough to use racist words (even if his intent wasn't racist) when he is supposedly a professional caster can be. Then add to it that he lied about it and used other professionals in his community to try and excuse his behavior makes it worse. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:32 VirgilSC2 wrote: .....calling someone a "nigger" or a "faggot" isn't a crime. hate crimes.... it will get you a longer sentence if said during the commission of another crime. by itself, i do not know if its a crime. dont think so. | ||
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CounterOrder
Canada457 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:30 Vysage wrote: It's so easy to say you're offended. What people NEVER try to do is to try to not be offended by things. Literally will make you a better person and let you enjoy things you wouldn't normally enjoy otherwise. Personally, if it was me, it would be much easier to just not be offended by anything than to complain about how something offended me. I understand people don't think that way, but maybe they should, because they'd be a lot more productive. Instead of jumping on bandwagons, maybe try and consider adapting yourselves to "offensive words." Seriously think about a world where no "bad words" exist. All it takes is to tell yourself "I'm not offended by that; that word means nothing significant." So many problems could be saved from this, but people don't think that way ever. Everyone talking about this hurting esports? You're hurting esports by starting this discussion. You're hurting esports by not watching orb anymore. You're hurting esports by completely trashing a guy who is exceptional at his job. Dont need to say more than that. | ||
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chillpenguin
United States90 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
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imMUTAble787
United States680 Posts
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liberal
1116 Posts
So someone I've never heard of used bad words in a game... Sorry I can't bring myself to care, either about this person, or the words, or the future of "esports." There is enough drama in real life, just enjoy the game. Well, I guess some people don't have real drama in their lives, so they have to drum some up online. 45 pages wow... | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:34 Lord_J wrote: That's a bit immature, but is there really any need to make a federal case out of it? Get some perspective, people. If he had called those people assholes it would have been a bit immature. He called them niggers, so it's blatantly racist. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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sereniity
Sweden1159 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:35 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote: After reading all the reddit threads and stuff.. I bid orb's career farewell. Acting like a prepubescent pre-tween while hosting several community shows AND being under the EG tag doesn't seem wise to me. You do not deserve to be in such a wonderful community. cy@ He didn't say this under the EG tag. Shouldn't this "wonderful community" know facts like that before they decide to make a man lose his job and potentially career? | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:35 VirgilSC2 wrote: It's OK guys, If orb does get fired from EG, I'll see if he's interested in working for me at the EWM, he can co-cast with Katu that way. I just snorted some water up my nose, hahaha. | ||
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:29 VirgilSC2 wrote: The quote from IdrA was to demonstrate the colloquial use of the term "faggot" which, frankly was relevant in 2007, and is relevant now. And now the colloquial use of 'nigger' and you got a case i think. Double standards, agreed on exhibit F, now the double ones on exhibit N and we'll dismiss the case :p But seriously, everybody knows by logic that different words have different meanings, different insults have different impact and as far as racial slurs go.. I don't think i've seen Idra (your example) ever using a racial slur. Could be wrong tho in which case there is a double standard present. | ||
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gosu86
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tskarzyn
United States516 Posts
Not sure what's worse, orb's behavior or all of the other immature sc2ers/keyboard warriors that defend his behavior because they do the same thing. I just hope these tommy toughnuts defending orb have manners in real life because if you get upset and drop the n-word in a bar, you could get attacked or even shot. | ||
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Athroix
United Kingdom24 Posts
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