EPTOrb, racist remarks on ladder and personal stream - Page 40
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ShakaZu.Sc2
United States131 Posts
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:03 Whatson wrote: LOL oh noooo!! somebody said "nigger" and "faggot" in a game! Who cares, racial and homophobic slurs are a part of everyday life. Seriously this community is dramatizes so many things. Destiny uses "nigger" on stream all the time, yet I don't see people constantly new threads to disparage him. EG and their disciplinary action is another story altogether. Everyday life. Thats controlled by one organisation or another. Try and make a post here thats full of n-words and other slurs. See how long it will take you to get banned. Go on the street and yell it for a couple of minutes, or if you're lucky; shout it once to see a reaction. If you want your own community, go stream like destiny and create one with your own rules. Orb wouldn't have this topic if he was simply a individual streamer associated with no-one. But he is, and everybody is curious to see what his linked employers will do in an effort to distance themselves from this topic and the ones on reddit. Apparently their market audience thinks this is a big thing. | ||
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ligand
United States53 Posts
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Shameless
Netherlands349 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:05 Spekulatius wrote: I'm growing bored of all this drama to be honest. Same here, I hope everyone who commented in this topic purely to for the "fun" of ruining someones life/career/personality one day faces a similar situation BUT with themselves being the center of attention. | ||
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Ressonance
Brazil14 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:02 Za7oX wrote: Orb isn't racist and if you actually think he is then your a dumb ass. I don't think that he's really racist, but he does racist comments, that's enough. lol | ||
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Vapaach
Finland994 Posts
Seems quite bad. | ||
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Vandalman
United States66 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:03 bonifaceviii wrote: Yeah, if orb were open about it EG would be able to do damage control properly. Now he's put EG in a bad situation and nobody's gonna pay for it but him. Ya i agree with this. If he was honest with EG from the begining it would have been better, but now he has put EG is a very bad spot since they backed him to begin with and a company like EG doesnt want to be assosiate with this drama. | ||
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Razuik
United States409 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:07 Vysage wrote: Guess what, when he's playing a ladder game, he's not representing shit. He's not casting games, he's not doing his job, he's playing around like you and me. You can't tell me that he doesn't have the right to express himself freely when he's on his free time. If you're getting offended, it's because you're hunting orb down on his free time. Otherwise you'd never see it. Clearly you have never held a job or know what you are responsible for when having a job. He was still representing something even if he isn't casting games. I thought everyone understood how that worked... | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:06 Billd wrote: If you go to live tweet results for Orb's twitter there is a significant amount of people claiming they are contacting EG's sponsors about this. This will be hard to ignore for Alex and EG Link? | ||
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ShatterStar
United States40 Posts
I think people who are drawing the "what's worse, X or using the word" it's a false argument. Both can be behaviors that are bad. It is however dismaying at times to see how prevalent the word has become on the internet. See how many news articles that feature blacks on CNN for example are filled with filthy comments. It is disheartening because you can not tell what informs the decisions of those people.How much of it is trolling/rage/etc and how much of it is real? Without context, Orb has availed himself of the same dilemma...why that choice, what informed it? Personally I don't think an apology is necessary, he was trying to be offensive by using offensive words. I may wonder why he used those particular ones (what has drawn that association of concepts in his mind) but you just shrug your shoulders when you get on the net and get used to it. | ||
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Rorschach
United States623 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:02 Utinni wrote: He was put in a professional position and lied to EG about his raging past. It is a public matter when the public knows about it. It would be the same as if a newscaster did the same thing and it was filmed at a bar or public event. It may have not been for the world to see but the world did see it and he will be punished accordingly. OMG "lied about his raging past". Sir (pulls down shades) you've been convicted of a rage crime. Come with us.... Also people please quit saying Orb is racist! You're all retarded if you think he is actually racist (just as I would be if thought you were all literally retarded) TL is starting to make me as sick a the reddit community... | ||
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Vysage
United States117 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:06 shinyA wrote: Yeah because my feelings on whether or not it's appropriate for the people who are representing esports to the masses to hatefully use the words 'nigger' and 'faggot' is a direct representation of my lifes priorities. It's so funny because the same people who say "it's just the internet, who cares!" are the same ones saying "support esports, make esports grow, we love esports!". You're on a site dedicated to StarCraft 2, Orb ( as sad as it is ) represents a huge orginzation that is vital to the growth of StarCraft and eSports in general. When he acts like the immature, raging, ignorant child that he is ( seriously why did they hire him ) it reflects horribly on both SC and eSports. If you can't understand that then I don't know what to say. Do you think any of EG's sponsors would be happy about this? No. Do you think this is something that EG is happy about? No. Do you think that in the future when sponsors look at EG's past employees that this is something that is going to make them want to invest in them? No. Uh, when orb is at home playing ladder games, that's his personal life. Nothing of that should be connected to his work. If you don't want to see him enjoying his free time, don't hunt him down, don't watch his stream. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
I have mixed feelings about all this, personally. I thought Orb was a decent caster, and I was kinda glad he was starting to make a name for himself. This might be "career (to what extent he had a career) ending." I think people need to remember that. This will probably remove all this guy's hard work for the past year or so in the SC2 scene, because of a few words. On the other hand, I always knew Orb was a rager and a phoney. Anyone who has watched his stream since his early days would know this. It always sort of irritated me that he would act nice and professional when he was doing something for a big audience, but when you look at his stream it is just his asshole self. He always had an attitude problem, and I guess he is paying for it now. So I guess he sort of deserves it? | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:06 turdburgler wrote: the sentiment from most people seems to be when you represent yourself you can do what you like and people can take it or leave it, but when you represent an organisation you have to be a lot more careful in how you act. i dont see the need to attempt to hurt EG for this. even if you feel they should let him go (if they dont) or you feel they shouldnt (if they do) atleast wait for them to say something before hurr try and lose them money. Look, if it was a pro player playing a tournament/showmatch, I would say that they deserve to get flamed for this kind of stuff. This is a freaking private match. He's playing around like every other ladder junkie out there. It's no longer his job, it's mainly for fun, so there are no sponsors... | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
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kalteras
United States72 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:08 LoraX wrote: lol @ orb. cant wait for him to be erased from the community. raging racist nerds like him do not deserve to be a focal point of the community. im just glad that he'll be gone soon this 100x User was warned for this post | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:09 Shameless wrote: Same here, I hope everyone who commented in this topic purely to for the "fun" of ruining someones life/career/personality one day faces a similar situation BUT with themselves being the center of attention. Yet both of you make posts, even though you're bored with the topic? Just move on to other things, and don't increase the amount of attention this gets. | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:07 Whatson wrote: It's more like I don't watch second-rate pro players that often... Somebody link me to a Destiny-hate thread about "niggers" then They're all in the Closed section, where this thread should be. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=274850 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=229046 | ||
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