• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:49
CET 10:49
KST 18:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT20Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Team League Season 10
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea TvZ is the most complete match up BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1899 users

Orb, racist remarks on ladder and personal stream - Page 38

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 84 Next
The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations.
garbodor
Profile Joined October 2011
269 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#741
On March 09 2012 09:01 johnnywup wrote:
this is unnecessary slander. a lot of people rage ladder.



a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report:

The truth can never be slander.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#742
There's a difference between doing something racist and being a racist. I don't think orb is actually racist, but regardless he needs to be accountable for his actions. You can get away with shit like that if you're a total nobody, but not when you're employed by one of the most important e-sports teams in the world. The whole community is watching you bro.

I don't want to speculate on how EG will handle this, but I'd understand the decision to let him go based on this. At the same time if he owns up to his mistake and doesn't get caught saying shit like that again I would be in a favor of giving him a second chance.

And for the everyone saying it wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't for the racism/prejudism, that's exactly the fucking point. Nobody cares about people being impolite or shit-talking or anything. People care that you're using words offensive to entire communities of people who have nothing to do with you losing at a video game. If you call somebody an asshole when you rage the only person you're offending is some dude laddering, and even then he's probably more amused than anything. The fact that it's that simple makes what orb said even more stupid. But like I said above, if he "gets it" then I don't see why we shouldn't be willing to forgive him.

TheChairman
Profile Joined May 2011
United States46 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 00:05:34
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#743
Why is it such a big deal to want people to act like civilized human beings?

Especially since Orb clearly had aspirations to be somewhat prominent in the community, and he had problems with this very same issue all the way back to the beta, getting his stream taken out of features, you would think he would act like a grown up and keep his mouth shut when he gets mad. Instead he shows he either has no self control or doesn't think throwing bigoted tantrums is a problem. Either way there should be consequences and I don't get why that is unclear to some people.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#744
On March 09 2012 08:58 Raiquer wrote:
If we wanna keep eSports serious we have to take things like this seriously, especially with someone that casts for an organization like EG and a league like NASL.

This has to have consequences.


Like what?

He doesn't deserve to be fired for raging on ladder.
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#745
On March 09 2012 09:03 Whatson wrote:
Destiny uses "nigger" on stream all the time, yet I don't see people constantly new threads to disparage him.
I don't think you've been around here long then
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
MaGariShun
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria305 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#746
On March 09 2012 09:00 Vysage wrote:
Holy shit why do people care so much about a few words some dude says on the internet? Christ, this is so insignificant. Please please please explain to me how this would affect anyone in real life. People get angry and then they say things to express it. That's it. Nothing more. If you're letting something as stupid as this keep you from enjoying the game and its community, you live a sad life and I hope you get your priorities in order.

there's people on these forums who think sc2 will somehow blow up and be mainstream and that it needs to be as "professional" as possible for that to happen. Once the scene has been cleansed from all unprofessionalism, it will instantly become the new soccer/football/basketball. It is their duty to carry out that cleansing, no matter the cost
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#747
Fire him. Katu got fired for a lot less.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#748
On March 09 2012 08:59 Tehs Tehklz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 08:57 figq wrote:
Obviously Orb is nether racist, nor homophobic, he just reaches for whatever derogatory word comes to mind when he wants to offend a stranger on the ladder.


What does more harm: thinking racists thoughts or using racist words?


Word. I'm even pretty confident that orb is not particularly a racist. It's irrelevant.
shikata ga nai
OzkanTheFlip
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States246 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#749
who cares, there words, this has been made into such a big deal even if he did lie it doesnt matter
Make Moar Roaches
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#750
he shouldn't have lied but if he actually loses his 'job' at EG over this I'm going to be pissed.

community is full of dramatic bitches and sad fucks that literally went though all of his vods searching for 'nigger' to be said.

what a brilliant waste of time. slap him on the wrist, tell him to watch his language now that he is a 'public' (laughable) figure and move on.

orb is a great caster and this community is retarded.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#751
Don't really care. We should probably be more interested in why certain casters get paid more than tournament winners.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#752
I agree that ladder BM isn't as serious as a lot of people are making it out to be. However, the way Orb handled this situation has been pathetic and made me dislike him as a personality in the community.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
March 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#753
I'm growing bored of all this drama to be honest.
Always smile~
Tridium
Profile Joined October 2011
United States8 Posts
March 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#754
The third picture shows his art studio in the background not the EG house.

That CEARLY proves that that incident isn't recent.

As for the other ones it's up in the air as to if it was him or when it happened.
The precious Tritium!
tassblaster
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada47 Posts
March 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#755
On March 09 2012 08:58 sereniity wrote:
Why do people spend so much time to ruin it for others?

I guess to "legitimize e-sports" haha... pathetic really I'd say.

Give him a slap on the wrist and he wont do it again I'd bet (certainly not now when he's involved with EG). I previously thought the shit with Katu was justified but honestly people overreact waaaaaaay too much to these kind of caster topics. Everybody are just thinking of "legitimizing e-sports" as if they'll suddenly be gone tomorrow if we keep having Orb as a caster, which he's pretty damn good at.


I agree people are so negative when it comes to sc2. Its a video game like most people would be laughing at these rage pictures and moving on, but these hardcore sc2 nerds who all suck at the game just look for negative stuff.

they all sound like jealous nerds just SAYING ROFL
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
March 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#756
On March 09 2012 09:04 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 08:58 Raiquer wrote:
If we wanna keep eSports serious we have to take things like this seriously, especially with someone that casts for an organization like EG and a league like NASL.

This has to have consequences.


Like what?

He doesn't deserve to be fired for raging on ladder.

LOL bringing in eSports? seriously?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
March 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#757
What exactly is he hired to do with EG?
kalteras
Profile Joined March 2011
United States72 Posts
March 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#758
On March 09 2012 08:43 babylon wrote:
If they kick orb, they should kick IdrA, IMO. Can't have those double standards dangling around. ^^

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think idra has ever used racial slurs in his BMing. There's a huge difference to people. Although I tend to think if Idra did use them regularly EG wouldn't fire him for it. Lord knows his tournament results aren't getting EG and their sponsors any attention as of late.
Look at the damn minimap - Day[9]
Orracle
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States314 Posts
March 09 2012 00:06 GMT
#759
I don't watch his stream, nor do I like him, but I don't give a shit what some one says. Every other game on battle.net, regardless of win or lose, a person generally PMs me with something such as "ez u faget". This is no different. If you don't like his language, don't watch his stream, but making drama threads like this is uncalled for. No different than Jessica calling out Dragon publicly.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
March 09 2012 00:06 GMT
#760
On March 09 2012 09:05 Zidane wrote:
What exactly is he hired to do with EG?


He is (and potentially WAS, at this point) their caster, casting events they are associated with and the likes, such as the EG Masters Cup.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 84 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiG Sty Festival
09:00
Group A
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
PiGStarcraft545
IndyStarCraft 140
Rex79
TKL 73
IntoTheiNu 0
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft545
SortOf 190
NeuroSwarm 160
IndyStarCraft 140
ProTech123
Rex 79
TKL 73
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2411
Sea 1428
Hyuk 851
Mini 250
Rush 161
Mong 137
EffOrt 122
ZerO 90
Jaedong 79
ggaemo 75
[ Show more ]
Hm[arnc] 54
sSak 52
sorry 27
NotJumperer 27
ToSsGirL 26
JulyZerg 24
Free 20
scan(afreeca) 19
NaDa 19
Bale 18
ZergMaN 12
910 12
Terrorterran 8
Sea.KH 1
Dota 2
XaKoH 603
canceldota46
League of Legends
JimRising 451
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1319
olofmeister1222
shoxiejesuss1071
zeus878
m0e_tv513
allub205
edward67
kRYSTAL_47
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King114
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor143
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi769
ceh9534
Trikslyr31
ZerO(Twitch)11
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick586
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 58
• LUISG 21
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos998
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
11m
KCM Race Survival
11m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2h 11m
OSC
2h 11m
Replay Cast
14h 11m
PiG Sty Festival
23h 11m
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Escore
1d
Epic.LAN
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 14h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 23h
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-18
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.