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The subject of this thread is not a license to roll out your inaccurate, misinformed, poorly conceived, tired, and downright offensive theories about race relations.
garbodor
Profile Joined October 2011
269 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#741
On March 09 2012 09:01 johnnywup wrote:
this is unnecessary slander. a lot of people rage ladder.



a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report:

The truth can never be slander.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#742
There's a difference between doing something racist and being a racist. I don't think orb is actually racist, but regardless he needs to be accountable for his actions. You can get away with shit like that if you're a total nobody, but not when you're employed by one of the most important e-sports teams in the world. The whole community is watching you bro.

I don't want to speculate on how EG will handle this, but I'd understand the decision to let him go based on this. At the same time if he owns up to his mistake and doesn't get caught saying shit like that again I would be in a favor of giving him a second chance.

And for the everyone saying it wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't for the racism/prejudism, that's exactly the fucking point. Nobody cares about people being impolite or shit-talking or anything. People care that you're using words offensive to entire communities of people who have nothing to do with you losing at a video game. If you call somebody an asshole when you rage the only person you're offending is some dude laddering, and even then he's probably more amused than anything. The fact that it's that simple makes what orb said even more stupid. But like I said above, if he "gets it" then I don't see why we shouldn't be willing to forgive him.

TheChairman
Profile Joined May 2011
United States46 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 00:05:34
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#743
Why is it such a big deal to want people to act like civilized human beings?

Especially since Orb clearly had aspirations to be somewhat prominent in the community, and he had problems with this very same issue all the way back to the beta, getting his stream taken out of features, you would think he would act like a grown up and keep his mouth shut when he gets mad. Instead he shows he either has no self control or doesn't think throwing bigoted tantrums is a problem. Either way there should be consequences and I don't get why that is unclear to some people.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#744
On March 09 2012 08:58 Raiquer wrote:
If we wanna keep eSports serious we have to take things like this seriously, especially with someone that casts for an organization like EG and a league like NASL.

This has to have consequences.


Like what?

He doesn't deserve to be fired for raging on ladder.
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#745
On March 09 2012 09:03 Whatson wrote:
Destiny uses "nigger" on stream all the time, yet I don't see people constantly new threads to disparage him.
I don't think you've been around here long then
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MaGariShun
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria305 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#746
On March 09 2012 09:00 Vysage wrote:
Holy shit why do people care so much about a few words some dude says on the internet? Christ, this is so insignificant. Please please please explain to me how this would affect anyone in real life. People get angry and then they say things to express it. That's it. Nothing more. If you're letting something as stupid as this keep you from enjoying the game and its community, you live a sad life and I hope you get your priorities in order.

there's people on these forums who think sc2 will somehow blow up and be mainstream and that it needs to be as "professional" as possible for that to happen. Once the scene has been cleansed from all unprofessionalism, it will instantly become the new soccer/football/basketball. It is their duty to carry out that cleansing, no matter the cost
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#747
Fire him. Katu got fired for a lot less.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#748
On March 09 2012 08:59 Tehs Tehklz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 08:57 figq wrote:
Obviously Orb is nether racist, nor homophobic, he just reaches for whatever derogatory word comes to mind when he wants to offend a stranger on the ladder.


What does more harm: thinking racists thoughts or using racist words?


Word. I'm even pretty confident that orb is not particularly a racist. It's irrelevant.
shikata ga nai
OzkanTheFlip
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States246 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#749
who cares, there words, this has been made into such a big deal even if he did lie it doesnt matter
Make Moar Roaches
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#750
he shouldn't have lied but if he actually loses his 'job' at EG over this I'm going to be pissed.

community is full of dramatic bitches and sad fucks that literally went though all of his vods searching for 'nigger' to be said.

what a brilliant waste of time. slap him on the wrist, tell him to watch his language now that he is a 'public' (laughable) figure and move on.

orb is a great caster and this community is retarded.
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theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#751
Don't really care. We should probably be more interested in why certain casters get paid more than tournament winners.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
March 09 2012 00:04 GMT
#752
I agree that ladder BM isn't as serious as a lot of people are making it out to be. However, the way Orb handled this situation has been pathetic and made me dislike him as a personality in the community.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
March 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#753
I'm growing bored of all this drama to be honest.
Always smile~
Tridium
Profile Joined October 2011
United States8 Posts
March 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#754
The third picture shows his art studio in the background not the EG house.

That CEARLY proves that that incident isn't recent.

As for the other ones it's up in the air as to if it was him or when it happened.
The precious Tritium!
tassblaster
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada47 Posts
March 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#755
On March 09 2012 08:58 sereniity wrote:
Why do people spend so much time to ruin it for others?

I guess to "legitimize e-sports" haha... pathetic really I'd say.

Give him a slap on the wrist and he wont do it again I'd bet (certainly not now when he's involved with EG). I previously thought the shit with Katu was justified but honestly people overreact waaaaaaay too much to these kind of caster topics. Everybody are just thinking of "legitimizing e-sports" as if they'll suddenly be gone tomorrow if we keep having Orb as a caster, which he's pretty damn good at.


I agree people are so negative when it comes to sc2. Its a video game like most people would be laughing at these rage pictures and moving on, but these hardcore sc2 nerds who all suck at the game just look for negative stuff.

they all sound like jealous nerds just SAYING ROFL
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
March 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#756
On March 09 2012 09:04 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 08:58 Raiquer wrote:
If we wanna keep eSports serious we have to take things like this seriously, especially with someone that casts for an organization like EG and a league like NASL.

This has to have consequences.


Like what?

He doesn't deserve to be fired for raging on ladder.

LOL bringing in eSports? seriously?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
March 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#757
What exactly is he hired to do with EG?
kalteras
Profile Joined March 2011
United States72 Posts
March 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#758
On March 09 2012 08:43 babylon wrote:
If they kick orb, they should kick IdrA, IMO. Can't have those double standards dangling around. ^^

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think idra has ever used racial slurs in his BMing. There's a huge difference to people. Although I tend to think if Idra did use them regularly EG wouldn't fire him for it. Lord knows his tournament results aren't getting EG and their sponsors any attention as of late.
Look at the damn minimap - Day[9]
Orracle
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States314 Posts
March 09 2012 00:06 GMT
#759
I don't watch his stream, nor do I like him, but I don't give a shit what some one says. Every other game on battle.net, regardless of win or lose, a person generally PMs me with something such as "ez u faget". This is no different. If you don't like his language, don't watch his stream, but making drama threads like this is uncalled for. No different than Jessica calling out Dragon publicly.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
March 09 2012 00:06 GMT
#760
On March 09 2012 09:05 Zidane wrote:
What exactly is he hired to do with EG?


He is (and potentially WAS, at this point) their caster, casting events they are associated with and the likes, such as the EG Masters Cup.
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