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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 22:19:52
January 28 2012 21:25 GMT
#1
So this is how all of this came to be, last night after begging me for at least 2 hours to play him in a betmatch we came to an agreement on a 250$ bo5 match, we just played it and this is wat happened afterwards LOL(huge chat log incoming)

REP1: http://drop.sc/99299
REP2: http://drop.sc/99300
REP3: http://drop.sc/99301

coLgoswser: ready?
coLgoswser has reconnected.
coLgoswser: gogo
You: rdy
wat 3
r
the 4 maps
again
coLgoswser: mlg versions of
daybreak dual shak terminus
You: ok
downvote
till we pick
1
ok
or
just pick
ur map
dont care
coLgoswser: lets just start ono daybreak
You: k
coLgoswser: and then losers pick
You: make
bo5
right?
coLgoswser: yes

After g2, took him a good 10mins to host g3 lol, repanalysis mode gogo:

You: dual/shak
coLgoswser has reconnected.
You: o_o

Once the match was done:

coLgoswser: why dont you even bother
worrying about roach ling all in
g2
when you saw i had gas
you never scout my main once
You: i did
i made a 3rd cannon
and i had a feeling u were gonna mut
coLgoswser: the 2 cannons behind your forge would never hold a roach ling allin
You: i thought hyd allin
for a while
a
OK
ling roach allin me
next time
why would u open 2base muta
arnt u scared that i might
8g warpprism
allin u?
u didnt scout
my tech
either
^^
coLgoswser: wtf you talking about
i saw your gate count with overseer...
You: u opened
2base muta
no?
yes but by then
ur tech was already decided
u laired
super fast
coLgoswser: with 3 spine
You: ok
coLgoswser: in case any gateway pressure
You: thats a huge commitment
coLgoswser: before i got overseer
You: WARPPRISM
INBASE
8g warpin
coLgoswser: warp prism is hard countered by muta
1
You: hahahaha
coLgoswser: 2 my overseer would see your robo
You: ok
how would u
respond
?
coLgoswser: snipe your warp prism with mutas
and 9 spine at nat
You: LOL
do u know how fast
the wp comes out?
i make it
with my first
100 gas
dunno tho
in that case
u might be right
never tried it cross pos
on terminus
coLgoswser: it doesnt matter my mutas are out twhen i go them that fast
on cross spots
You: yea
dunno cross spots never tested
but
my wp hits
before mutas
on other maps
i have it timed it
out*
coLgoswser: how you scout my proxy hatch so fast g1?
You: u did the same b.o
to me
in top 200 koth
coLgoswser: no i didnt rofl
You: and once my probe left
ur nat
coLgoswser: wtf
You: sure u did
on matchpoint
u proxy hatched
at my 3rd
coLgoswser: it was completely different build order
You: well it was proxy hatch
once my probe left ur nat
and ur drone was chasing
didnt build a hatch
off of 0 gas
was obvious
that or i maphack
whichever makes u sleep better
at night
coLgoswser: which wouldnt be out of consideration
you have in the past
You: yup
LOL
coLgoswser: seemed pretty quick to bet 1000 vs catz
You: u got me figured out
damn
coLgoswser: you cant prove
you dont
everyone knows you've maphacked before
like 1 year ago
it was proven you hacked in bw
You: try more like
4 years ago
coLgoswser: how old are you
now
You: 23
coLgoswser: not 4 years
then
like 2.5
You: ok sec
ill find u the newspost
next time
dont bet with me
if u think i hack
coLgoswser: i wont
You: counterproductive
coLgoswser: bad idea to bet with previous maphackers
You: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=69911
and it was actually
5 years ago
the newspost found reps me
from the previous year
8D
ggs
thx for the match

a few minutes later..

coLgoswser: if i ever hit you at mlg
see what happens
You: but ive won over 12k
from lans
already
coLgoswser: not lately
You: :[
TT
coLgoswser: not saying your bad because your not
just i think you might have hacked
You: ok

15-20mins later

coLgoswser: g3
why you attack then
no one does collosi timing with 2 collosi
You: cus ur spire was about to be done
YO
stop msging me
coLgoswser: no because
tunneling claws was almost done
You: I DONT GIVE A FUCK
STOP MSGING ME
coLgoswser: and if you had waited 20 s would have lost
You: U BEGGED ME FOR A FUCKING BETMATCH
FOR 2 HOURS LAST NIGHT
coLgoswser: dont maphack
You: its not as if i came to u
The player is ignoring you.
coLgoswser: fucking maphacker

and all this time i was actually trying to dodge this match because i just got a new keyboard and i havnt practice since a week, the only reason i accepted the bet was cus of personal pride/ego and i didnt want to pussy out vs someone like this dude, was ready to lose the 250$ but thankfully he was... (u fill in the blanks), thx for the donation

p.s: wouldnt have made this post if u didnt act like a douche after the match, good thing i asked u to pay catz the 250$ beforehand : D

EDIT: skype convo before we terminated our relationship
[4:41:33 PM] Michael Dobler: wow
[4:41:35 PM] Michael Dobler: your such a child
[4:41:53 PM] Michael Dobler: gl maphacking in the future im pretty positive you were
[4:42:12 PM] Payam Toghyan: AHAHAHA
[4:42:35 PM] Payam Toghyan: im not gonna let ur douchy ways go unnoticed
[4:42:44 PM] Michael Dobler: but its closed
[4:42:47 PM] Michael Dobler: because your such a faggot
[4:42:50 PM] Michael Dobler: ROFL

karma.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 28 2012 21:27 GMT
#2
I don't like goswser at all for some reason....Pretty funny. >_>;
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
January 28 2012 21:30 GMT
#3
wow Goswser is a really bad loser.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
January 28 2012 21:32 GMT
#4
how old is he? seems like a child
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 28 2012 21:34 GMT
#5
I actually saw this unfolding, and I would have bet that it wasn't going to happen, so I'm really surprised it got played at all.

I'm not really surprised about the BM though, he BMs my players on a pretty frequent basis from what they say.

Gave me a laugh though. Thanks for posting this TT1!

(P.S. He was asking in channel if anyone could stake him for a betmatch because he didn't have the $$$)
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 22:30:26
January 28 2012 21:35 GMT
#6
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 22:30:34
January 28 2012 21:36 GMT
#7
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 21:38:25
January 28 2012 21:36 GMT
#8
On January 29 2012 06:35 goswser wrote:
TT1 blind counters every strategy I do, never makes an observer, hits timings blindly...and hes known to be a maphacker in the past, don't know why I bet vs him.


blind counter? g1 i scouted that u didnt exp + u didnt take ur gasses and u did this b.o vs me in the past, g2 i scouted u with hallu, g3 i did a standard build and attacked u before ur spire was done(which i scouted) LOL
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
January 28 2012 21:37 GMT
#9
On January 29 2012 06:35 goswser wrote:
TT1 blind counters every strategy I do, never makes an observer, hits timings blindly...and hes known to be a maphacker in the past, don't know why I bet vs him.


rofll roflorfol its on.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 28 2012 21:38 GMT
#10
On January 29 2012 06:36 goswser wrote:
I like how he posts this thread so he can brag about wins he probably didn't get in a legit manner. Please shit on me, when TT1 seems to jump on his chances to bet large sums of money against me and catz, yet achieves little to no results anywhere but the comfort of his house.


I'm pretty sure he actually has more results then you......
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
firrae
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada68 Posts
January 28 2012 21:38 GMT
#11
I've always found goswser a bit hot headed. He is, personally, my least favorite compLexity player. If he's so willing to just to the conclusion that you were map hacking, maybe there's something on his conscience?
HA! You can only kill idiots and slow moving vehicles with lazers!!! ... FUCK!!!!!!!!!
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 22:30:48
January 28 2012 21:38 GMT
#12
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 21:40:47
January 28 2012 21:38 GMT
#13
o shit its on.
Edit- I find it hard to believe that TT1 would cheat in a game and then post the replays publicly
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
January 28 2012 21:38 GMT
#14
On January 29 2012 06:35 goswser wrote:
TT1 blind counters every strategy I do, never makes an observer, hits timings blindly...and hes known to be a maphacker in the past, don't know why I bet vs him.


sick game sense is earned in months of playing and dedication bro
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 22:31:14
January 28 2012 21:39 GMT
#15
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 22:31:23
January 28 2012 21:40 GMT
#16
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 22:01:29
January 28 2012 21:41 GMT
#17
No.

EDIT: Or maybe yes. TT1 has promised not to respond to any more of goswser's posts so that this doesn't devolve into a flamewar. Goswser, please don't take advantage of this fact.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
January 28 2012 22:01 GMT
#18
LOL the drama!
showmatch now!
:)
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
January 28 2012 22:05 GMT
#19
damn breh's, it's on.
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
January 28 2012 22:06 GMT
#20
seriously goswser.... your reaction to that loss is lame

TT1 is really good, and honestly if you bet at 1:1 against him you were stupid, it was super -EV no matter how much you tend to overestimate yourself
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 28 2012 22:07 GMT
#21
Aw shit! This can only be settled in one way....spontaneous rap battle! Go!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
January 28 2012 22:09 GMT
#22
This is sooo guuud :D
lol
Twitter: @Strintern Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/strintern
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
January 28 2012 22:13 GMT
#23
Oh man my drama cup was running low this should refill nicely.
ifonlyiwereawsum
Profile Joined November 2010
United States484 Posts
January 28 2012 22:14 GMT
#24
Why is Starcraft drama so good?
LiquidSnute // Zai //
Nortac
Profile Joined April 2011
United States375 Posts
January 28 2012 22:20 GMT
#25
Everywhere I see goswuser's name all I see is him bm'ing people, saw it in playhem multiple times, dunno why a good mannered team like coL would pick up someone like this, really pathetic when you're supposed to be a "professional" player
Snake Grunger
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada61 Posts
January 28 2012 22:21 GMT
#26
TT1, té mon champion, man.
DOODLEcraft anyone ? http://doodlecraft.imgur.com/ -- @doodlecraft on Twitter
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
January 28 2012 22:29 GMT
#27
Classy thread, but from tt1 we can't really expect much more. If my emotions got the better of me, I don't see why TT1 feels a need to attempt to publicly humiliate me.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Hellmutt
Profile Joined August 2011
25 Posts
January 28 2012 22:33 GMT
#28
On January 29 2012 07:29 goswser wrote:
Classy thread, but from tt1 we can't really expect much more. If my emotions got the better of me, I don't see why TT1 feels a need to attempt to publicly humiliate me.


Actually you kind of humiliated yourself by responding to it in the way you did.
IronMonocle
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 22:39:03
January 28 2012 22:34 GMT
#29
Cheating or not cheating aside, this post comes off as really dickish from tt1. Probably was a bad idea to challenge a proven former map hacker though, but that's hindsight for you. You got your money, what more do you want?
My armor is contempt. My shield is disgust. My sword is hatred.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 22:38:46
January 28 2012 22:36 GMT
#30
On January 29 2012 07:29 goswser wrote:
Classy thread, but from tt1 we can't really expect much more. If my emotions got the better of me, I don't see why TT1 feels a need to attempt to publicly humiliate me.


i was publically humiliated for a good 7-8 years, its part of the cycle bro, if u dont understand wat proper gaming etiquette is rest assured ill call u out on it everytime

(sorry motbob ill restrain myself from now on)
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
KoDo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States683 Posts
January 28 2012 22:36 GMT
#31
no sympathy for goswer on this one sorry.
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
January 28 2012 22:38 GMT
#32
lol goswser u call everybody u lose to a cheater? that chat log is so sad jesus.
@KawaiiRiceLighT
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
January 28 2012 22:40 GMT
#33
jason lake will not be happy about this.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
January 28 2012 22:40 GMT
#34
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!
YOU FUCKING CHEESY NEWB MOTHER FUCKER MAP HACKER @U#Q)QOIUPO#$

joking aside PvZ current meta game is mostly figured out. As protoss i could narrow down the build zerg could do vs me just by probe scout the lings count and speed timing. Hallucination often in time become over reacting (over kill) and only used in 1v1 obs game when i have to play vs bad players and they dont know what they are doing. It is not too surprised seeing people do a blind all-in in money games either. It has always been that way since BW. People have a well designed build for map and match up and scouting often in time doesnt affect much the out come if that build is well prepared.

losing money and call the winner hacker is prob the worst way to lose. If you were inspecting him a hacker, doing a money match with him was not a wise move either. Overall goswser actions was straight up bad and should be reflect upon coL... hope they gona have official statement on this issue :-/
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
January 28 2012 22:44 GMT
#35
Really shocked to see this come out of what could've been just a normal friendly show match. Gowser's attitude both during and after is appauling.
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HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
January 28 2012 22:45 GMT
#36
Posting and encouraging personal drama between players on the site is neither professional or acceptable.
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