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Starcraft2 in south korea has so far failed.

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kagandraka
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)4 Posts
December 26 2011 11:54 GMT
#1
Still,BW is much more popular than SC2...

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BW proleague has many people in yongsan e-stadium..


Souht korea PCbang ranking chart.(by http://www.gametrics.com/)
1.aion
2.sudden attack
3.fifa online2
4.warcraft3
5.starcraft1
6.dungeon&fighter
7.lineage1
8.maple story
9.league of legends
10.world of warcraft


If HOTS(SC2 expansion) release,the situation might be better?



User was banned for this post.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
December 26 2011 11:55 GMT
#2
If your thread gets closed, there's a meaning behind it.
Don't create a new one.
wat
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
December 26 2011 12:00 GMT
#3
i dont understand how sc2 is not the best rts behind sc1.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10304 Posts
December 26 2011 12:02 GMT
#4
Oh look, uncecesary drama

>.>

Read Elephant in the Room instead of making this lackluster thread
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
December 26 2011 12:07 GMT
#5
Surprised Brood War is below some completely random games and even WC3, what kind of chart is that exactly.

And yes it's truely shocking and unexpected that SC2 didn't replace their national sport, now go look at the rest of the world.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 26 2011 12:10 GMT
#6
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.
Thank God and gunrun.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 12:17:10
December 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#7
On December 26 2011 21:07 Vaelone wrote:
Surprised Brood War is below some completely random games and even WC3, what kind of chart is that exactly.

And yes it's truely shocking and unexpected that SC2 didn't replace their national sport, now go look at the rest of the world.

WC3 has a lot of popular UMS (esp. in Korea). BW itself probably gets more play than WC3 but this chart can't exactly show that.

On topic: "Not as big as BW" != failure. Many fans of both games would say that SC2 doesn't meet the BW standard currently (ZvT is the only matchup that really amazes like BW, at least for me) but the community behind it is much larger. With time and careful attention (i.e expansions) the game will blossom. Look at WC3's relative success, and by the standards of ex-pro's it can't begin to compare to either starcraft.

Would be nice to see a real post with more content. This probably isn't enough to get decent discussion going.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
December 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#8
On December 26 2011 21:07 Vaelone wrote:
Surprised Brood War is below some completely random games and even WC3, what kind of chart is that exactly.

And yes it's truely shocking and unexpected that SC2 didn't replace their national sport, now go look at the rest of the world.

wc3 probably so far up because of dota
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 12:14:21
December 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#9
Starcraft, with SC2, isn't about Korea anymore. It's about the whole world.

And a PC bang chart isn't exactly a good measurement for the popularity of a game that's much more restrictive registration-wise than BW.
bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
December 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#10
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.


How about a fairer allocation of wealth then, stop the majority of fans paying for the minority's content? #occupyGOM Also fuck their ghetto ass stream.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 26 2011 12:17 GMT
#11
On December 26 2011 21:07 Vaelone wrote:
Surprised Brood War is below some completely random games and even WC3, what kind of chart is that exactly.

And yes it's truely shocking and unexpected that SC2 didn't replace their national sport, now go look at the rest of the world.


Dota is pretty popular in malaysia however sc2 , around 1 or 2 individual playing 5v5 , seems like sc2 hasn't struck popularity as it did when broodwar was released in the year 1998 in malaysia .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 26 2011 12:18 GMT
#12
On December 26 2011 21:14 bmml wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.


How about a fairer allocation of wealth then, stop the majority of fans paying for the minority's content? #occupyGOM Also fuck their ghetto ass stream.


Do you know the Korean stream of GSL is free, completely HD, along with free VOD?
Thank God and gunrun.
stickyhands
Profile Joined May 2011
187 Posts
December 26 2011 12:18 GMT
#13
So, according to your chart, wc3 is more played than sc1? the fuck? (must be some dota)
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
December 26 2011 12:23 GMT
#14
why did you remake this thread, it will still be closed.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 26 2011 12:24 GMT
#15
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.

Combine all those countries and it's still far less than what BW is in korea.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
December 26 2011 12:27 GMT
#16
I would say GOM failed in Korea. It's their job to promote it and they would benefit the most from it, also surprising w3 higher than BW ?! I'm starting to doubt that list.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 26 2011 12:27 GMT
#17
On December 26 2011 21:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.

Combine all those countries and it's still far less than what BW is in korea.


That's besides the point. Even if SC2 die tomorrow, BW's glory days won't come back. The viewership that tune in to StarCraft 2 today will just move on to the mobas or the MMOs.

I am still awe struck that nearly two years in, TL is still having this conversation. BW is downsizing because of reasons other than the sequel, a decline that begun in 2005 or so that hasn't reversed its course. So stop.

Remember BW fans, the site you spent your time hating on SC2 fans on is bankrolled by SC2 fans.
Thank God and gunrun.
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
December 26 2011 12:28 GMT
#18
On December 26 2011 21:14 bmml wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.


How about a fairer allocation of wealth then, stop the majority of fans paying for the minority's content? #occupyGOM Also fuck their ghetto ass stream.


If you provide the _best_ content, you'll get the most pay. There is no other tournament with the quality of play that GOM has, and that's a fact.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
December 26 2011 12:29 GMT
#19
On December 26 2011 21:18 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 21:14 bmml wrote:
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.


How about a fairer allocation of wealth then, stop the majority of fans paying for the minority's content? #occupyGOM Also fuck their ghetto ass stream.


Do you know the Korean stream of GSL is free, completely HD, along with free VOD?


Not sure if trolling...can anyone confirm this?
"more gg, more skill"
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 12:30:48
December 26 2011 12:30 GMT
#20
On December 26 2011 21:29 ravemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 21:18 Primadog wrote:
On December 26 2011 21:14 bmml wrote:
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.


How about a fairer allocation of wealth then, stop the majority of fans paying for the minority's content? #occupyGOM Also fuck their ghetto ass stream.


Do you know the Korean stream of GSL is free, completely HD, along with free VOD?


Not sure if trolling...can anyone confirm this?


ALSO: GSL entry are always free, in fact, they give you pizza and thundersticks.
Thank God and gunrun.
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