• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:10
CEST 09:10
KST 16:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview1[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League3Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ VPN experiences vespene.gg — BW replays in browser
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1799 users

Starcraft2 in south korea has so far failed.

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
kagandraka
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)4 Posts
December 26 2011 11:54 GMT
#1
Still,BW is much more popular than SC2...

[image loading]

[image loading]

BW proleague has many people in yongsan e-stadium..


Souht korea PCbang ranking chart.(by http://www.gametrics.com/)
1.aion
2.sudden attack
3.fifa online2
4.warcraft3
5.starcraft1
6.dungeon&fighter
7.lineage1
8.maple story
9.league of legends
10.world of warcraft


If HOTS(SC2 expansion) release,the situation might be better?



User was banned for this post.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
December 26 2011 11:55 GMT
#2
If your thread gets closed, there's a meaning behind it.
Don't create a new one.
wat
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
December 26 2011 12:00 GMT
#3
i dont understand how sc2 is not the best rts behind sc1.
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
December 26 2011 12:02 GMT
#4
Oh look, uncecesary drama

>.>

Read Elephant in the Room instead of making this lackluster thread
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
December 26 2011 12:07 GMT
#5
Surprised Brood War is below some completely random games and even WC3, what kind of chart is that exactly.

And yes it's truely shocking and unexpected that SC2 didn't replace their national sport, now go look at the rest of the world.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 26 2011 12:10 GMT
#6
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.
Thank God and gunrun.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 12:17:10
December 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#7
On December 26 2011 21:07 Vaelone wrote:
Surprised Brood War is below some completely random games and even WC3, what kind of chart is that exactly.

And yes it's truely shocking and unexpected that SC2 didn't replace their national sport, now go look at the rest of the world.

WC3 has a lot of popular UMS (esp. in Korea). BW itself probably gets more play than WC3 but this chart can't exactly show that.

On topic: "Not as big as BW" != failure. Many fans of both games would say that SC2 doesn't meet the BW standard currently (ZvT is the only matchup that really amazes like BW, at least for me) but the community behind it is much larger. With time and careful attention (i.e expansions) the game will blossom. Look at WC3's relative success, and by the standards of ex-pro's it can't begin to compare to either starcraft.

Would be nice to see a real post with more content. This probably isn't enough to get decent discussion going.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
December 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#8
On December 26 2011 21:07 Vaelone wrote:
Surprised Brood War is below some completely random games and even WC3, what kind of chart is that exactly.

And yes it's truely shocking and unexpected that SC2 didn't replace their national sport, now go look at the rest of the world.

wc3 probably so far up because of dota
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 12:14:21
December 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#9
Starcraft, with SC2, isn't about Korea anymore. It's about the whole world.

And a PC bang chart isn't exactly a good measurement for the popularity of a game that's much more restrictive registration-wise than BW.
bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
December 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#10
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.


How about a fairer allocation of wealth then, stop the majority of fans paying for the minority's content? #occupyGOM Also fuck their ghetto ass stream.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 26 2011 12:17 GMT
#11
On December 26 2011 21:07 Vaelone wrote:
Surprised Brood War is below some completely random games and even WC3, what kind of chart is that exactly.

And yes it's truely shocking and unexpected that SC2 didn't replace their national sport, now go look at the rest of the world.


Dota is pretty popular in malaysia however sc2 , around 1 or 2 individual playing 5v5 , seems like sc2 hasn't struck popularity as it did when broodwar was released in the year 1998 in malaysia .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 26 2011 12:18 GMT
#12
On December 26 2011 21:14 bmml wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.


How about a fairer allocation of wealth then, stop the majority of fans paying for the minority's content? #occupyGOM Also fuck their ghetto ass stream.


Do you know the Korean stream of GSL is free, completely HD, along with free VOD?
Thank God and gunrun.
stickyhands
Profile Joined May 2011
187 Posts
December 26 2011 12:18 GMT
#13
So, according to your chart, wc3 is more played than sc1? the fuck? (must be some dota)
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51040 Posts
December 26 2011 12:23 GMT
#14
why did you remake this thread, it will still be closed.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 26 2011 12:24 GMT
#15
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.

Combine all those countries and it's still far less than what BW is in korea.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
December 26 2011 12:27 GMT
#16
I would say GOM failed in Korea. It's their job to promote it and they would benefit the most from it, also surprising w3 higher than BW ?! I'm starting to doubt that list.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 26 2011 12:27 GMT
#17
On December 26 2011 21:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.

Combine all those countries and it's still far less than what BW is in korea.


That's besides the point. Even if SC2 die tomorrow, BW's glory days won't come back. The viewership that tune in to StarCraft 2 today will just move on to the mobas or the MMOs.

I am still awe struck that nearly two years in, TL is still having this conversation. BW is downsizing because of reasons other than the sequel, a decline that begun in 2005 or so that hasn't reversed its course. So stop.

Remember BW fans, the site you spent your time hating on SC2 fans on is bankrolled by SC2 fans.
Thank God and gunrun.
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
December 26 2011 12:28 GMT
#18
On December 26 2011 21:14 bmml wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.


How about a fairer allocation of wealth then, stop the majority of fans paying for the minority's content? #occupyGOM Also fuck their ghetto ass stream.


If you provide the _best_ content, you'll get the most pay. There is no other tournament with the quality of play that GOM has, and that's a fact.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
December 26 2011 12:29 GMT
#19
On December 26 2011 21:18 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 21:14 bmml wrote:
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.


How about a fairer allocation of wealth then, stop the majority of fans paying for the minority's content? #occupyGOM Also fuck their ghetto ass stream.


Do you know the Korean stream of GSL is free, completely HD, along with free VOD?


Not sure if trolling...can anyone confirm this?
"more gg, more skill"
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 12:30:48
December 26 2011 12:30 GMT
#20
On December 26 2011 21:29 ravemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 21:18 Primadog wrote:
On December 26 2011 21:14 bmml wrote:
On December 26 2011 21:10 Primadog wrote:
GOMTV is watched in over 180 countries, and MLG in 175. I'd rather SC2 to win in 174 countries and fail in 1, than win in 1 and fail in 174.


How about a fairer allocation of wealth then, stop the majority of fans paying for the minority's content? #occupyGOM Also fuck their ghetto ass stream.


Do you know the Korean stream of GSL is free, completely HD, along with free VOD?


Not sure if trolling...can anyone confirm this?


ALSO: GSL entry are always free, in fact, they give you pizza and thundersticks.
Thank God and gunrun.
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 51m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JimRising 615
Nina 203
Livibee 116
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3756
JulyZerg 365
Leta 137
Larva 85
Aegong 75
HiyA 30
Bale 26
sorry 23
Noble 13
Icarus 7
Counter-Strike
Doublelift1518
m0e_tv727
Other Games
summit1g10181
WinterStarcraft840
C9.Mang0376
Happy224
NeuroSwarm95
Trikslyr15
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL608
Other Games
BasetradeTV211
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1365
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
3h 51m
GSL
1d 2h
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 7h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
4 days
IPSL
4 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.