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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
January 03 2014 14:51 GMT
#1781
Ocelote reached the first place of CHallenger League 5v5 with Jwaow Morden Freeze and Dioud.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1u9jyz/ocelotes_team_reached_rank_1_in_challenger_in/
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 03 2014 20:44 GMT
#1782

Atn drops sponsorship of the team, the players retain their spot
Glorious SEA doto
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 03 2014 20:45 GMT
#1783
On January 04 2014 05:44 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/AraneaeLoL/status/419199609836036097
Atn drops sponsorship of the team, the players retain their spot


The way you worded it sounds like the organization Atn dropped their team. Is this true, or did the players leave the organization? Might make a difference, since they might already got a new organization planned to pick them up.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 03 2014 20:48 GMT
#1784
On January 04 2014 05:45 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 05:44 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/AraneaeLoL/status/419199609836036097
Atn drops sponsorship of the team, the players retain their spot


The way you worded it sounds like the organization Atn dropped their team. Is this true, or did the players leave the organization? Might make a difference, since they might already got a new organization planned to pick them up.

It's how aranae said it, I don't quite get it either from the way aranae worded it the team of kev1n/aranae/kerp/creaton/jree is somehow a team of its own while atn was just a sponsor that they took the name of and therefore don't own it. Idk I'm as confused as you are.
Glorious SEA doto
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 03 2014 20:51 GMT
#1785
Oh... did he say it like that? Okay then... in the tweet you posted "no longer part of Alternate" can be seen both ways.
However I have to say I'm pretty impressed by their contract making here:

Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 03 2014 20:53 GMT
#1786
Basically someone on the team is a god who figured out a loophole around LCS rules to retain their control
Glorious SEA doto
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 03 2014 20:56 GMT
#1787
Its not a loophole. The players formed a company and Alternate sponsored that company. Its not like NASCAR disappeared after Winston stopped being the named sponsor. Now its the Sprint Cup instead. They will be XD.GG.EU

HUE
Freeeeeeedom
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22068 Posts
January 03 2014 20:58 GMT
#1788
Its refreshing to see a team that has there stuff sorted for this. to many story's of the other side of it
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
January 03 2014 22:16 GMT
#1789
Maybe the former ATN team are going to join Millenum, not sure though.
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orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
January 04 2014 17:25 GMT
#1790

NiP in LCS?
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
January 04 2014 18:06 GMT
#1791
On January 05 2014 02:25 orzeu wrote:
https://twitter.com/ShLaYa/status/419514922347671552
NiP in LCS?

whose place would they take?
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
January 04 2014 18:14 GMT
#1792
On January 05 2014 03:06 DODswe4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 02:25 orzeu wrote:
https://twitter.com/ShLaYa/status/419514922347671552
NiP in LCS?

whose place would they take?


Lemondogs, as has been heavily rumored since NiP lost their promotion match. From various tweets, it sounds like this is exactly what is happening.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
January 04 2014 19:30 GMT
#1793
Way to get shafted as LD players...
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22068 Posts
January 04 2014 19:50 GMT
#1794
If only they managed it like (ex)Alternate did where the sponsor didn't control the spot.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
January 04 2014 20:07 GMT
#1795
I find it rather bad that a team that lost their quilifier match can get into LCS anyway....
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-04 20:37:09
January 04 2014 20:34 GMT
#1796
On January 05 2014 05:07 DODswe4 wrote:
I find it rather bad that a team that lost their quilifier match can get into LCS anyway....

The players now on LD also lost their LCS qualifier. You probably dont know that because they lost at an even earlier stage. In contrast to that the now NiP players actually qualifed for LCS at the end of the last season. They just had to leave their org (and with that give up the spot) because LD is terrible and did nothing for them.

All of this shit is happening because Riot insists on giving the LCS spot to the esport orgs and not to the players. If an org is useless (like LD apparently was) players cant leave them if they dont want to give up their LCS spot. Because of this players have very little bargaining power and have to accept what their orgs give them, even if they get no gaming house or dont get any salary beyond what they have to get from Riot.
If players held the spot the LD players would have probably just changed their org after last season to NiP and there would have been much less drama and roster changes. If NiP now buys the LD spot all ends relatively well though and LD would be finally gone.

Atn players did it right. They founded their own gaming company and let it hold the spot. So they just played under the Atn brand, without Atn having any excessive power over them. So they were able to look for a better offer for this season and all is fine.


Btw It makes me shudder to think that Quantic almost qualifed for LCS and their scumbag Canadian owner would have gotten hold of the spot. He would have given his players as little as possible and used the Riot money to pay off his debts. Or tried to sell the spot to keep the money for himself.

Off-season = best season
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 04 2014 20:43 GMT
#1797
Great post Redox
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-04 20:47:55
January 04 2014 20:46 GMT
#1798
On January 05 2014 05:34 Redox wrote:
Btw It makes me shudder to think that Quantic almost qualifed for LCS and their scumbag Canadian owner would have gotten hold of the spot. He would have given his players as little as possible and used the Riot money to pay off his debts. Or tried to sell the spot to keep the money for himself.


You think he would have paid Hyun from that money? Could be possible, he probably just went super all in with the Loco team.
It's kind of tragic in a way that both times Quantic collapsed it was supposedly due to their LoL teams leaving.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 04 2014 21:00 GMT
#1799
Wasn't the Quantic the now C9 were leaving already the reformed quantic?
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
January 04 2014 21:11 GMT
#1800
Honestly, what former Alternate did, (create their own company, offer naming rights to a title sponsor) should be the standard, and RIOT should be helping teams achieve this.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
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