• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:16
CET 18:16
KST 02:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win02026 KungFu Cup Announcement5BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains17Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4
StarCraft 2
General
Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win GSL CK - New online series BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled
Tourneys
2026 KungFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] #2: Team Classic vs. Team Solar [GSL CK] #1: Team Maru vs. Team herO RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO
Tourneys
ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread Formula 1 Discussion General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1164 users

[D] Pro Scene Evolution - Page 90

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 88 89 90 91 92 328 Next
League of Legends Events browser add-ons
Firefox Chrome
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
January 03 2014 14:51 GMT
#1781
Ocelote reached the first place of CHallenger League 5v5 with Jwaow Morden Freeze and Dioud.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1u9jyz/ocelotes_team_reached_rank_1_in_challenger_in/
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 03 2014 20:44 GMT
#1782

Atn drops sponsorship of the team, the players retain their spot
Glorious SEA doto
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 03 2014 20:45 GMT
#1783
On January 04 2014 05:44 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/AraneaeLoL/status/419199609836036097
Atn drops sponsorship of the team, the players retain their spot


The way you worded it sounds like the organization Atn dropped their team. Is this true, or did the players leave the organization? Might make a difference, since they might already got a new organization planned to pick them up.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 03 2014 20:48 GMT
#1784
On January 04 2014 05:45 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 05:44 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/AraneaeLoL/status/419199609836036097
Atn drops sponsorship of the team, the players retain their spot


The way you worded it sounds like the organization Atn dropped their team. Is this true, or did the players leave the organization? Might make a difference, since they might already got a new organization planned to pick them up.

It's how aranae said it, I don't quite get it either from the way aranae worded it the team of kev1n/aranae/kerp/creaton/jree is somehow a team of its own while atn was just a sponsor that they took the name of and therefore don't own it. Idk I'm as confused as you are.
Glorious SEA doto
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 03 2014 20:51 GMT
#1785
Oh... did he say it like that? Okay then... in the tweet you posted "no longer part of Alternate" can be seen both ways.
However I have to say I'm pretty impressed by their contract making here:

Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 03 2014 20:53 GMT
#1786
Basically someone on the team is a god who figured out a loophole around LCS rules to retain their control
Glorious SEA doto
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 03 2014 20:56 GMT
#1787
Its not a loophole. The players formed a company and Alternate sponsored that company. Its not like NASCAR disappeared after Winston stopped being the named sponsor. Now its the Sprint Cup instead. They will be XD.GG.EU

HUE
Freeeeeeedom
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22132 Posts
January 03 2014 20:58 GMT
#1788
Its refreshing to see a team that has there stuff sorted for this. to many story's of the other side of it
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
January 03 2014 22:16 GMT
#1789
Maybe the former ATN team are going to join Millenum, not sure though.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
January 04 2014 17:25 GMT
#1790

NiP in LCS?
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
January 04 2014 18:06 GMT
#1791
On January 05 2014 02:25 orzeu wrote:
https://twitter.com/ShLaYa/status/419514922347671552
NiP in LCS?

whose place would they take?
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
January 04 2014 18:14 GMT
#1792
On January 05 2014 03:06 DODswe4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 02:25 orzeu wrote:
https://twitter.com/ShLaYa/status/419514922347671552
NiP in LCS?

whose place would they take?


Lemondogs, as has been heavily rumored since NiP lost their promotion match. From various tweets, it sounds like this is exactly what is happening.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
January 04 2014 19:30 GMT
#1793
Way to get shafted as LD players...
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22132 Posts
January 04 2014 19:50 GMT
#1794
If only they managed it like (ex)Alternate did where the sponsor didn't control the spot.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
January 04 2014 20:07 GMT
#1795
I find it rather bad that a team that lost their quilifier match can get into LCS anyway....
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-04 20:37:09
January 04 2014 20:34 GMT
#1796
On January 05 2014 05:07 DODswe4 wrote:
I find it rather bad that a team that lost their quilifier match can get into LCS anyway....

The players now on LD also lost their LCS qualifier. You probably dont know that because they lost at an even earlier stage. In contrast to that the now NiP players actually qualifed for LCS at the end of the last season. They just had to leave their org (and with that give up the spot) because LD is terrible and did nothing for them.

All of this shit is happening because Riot insists on giving the LCS spot to the esport orgs and not to the players. If an org is useless (like LD apparently was) players cant leave them if they dont want to give up their LCS spot. Because of this players have very little bargaining power and have to accept what their orgs give them, even if they get no gaming house or dont get any salary beyond what they have to get from Riot.
If players held the spot the LD players would have probably just changed their org after last season to NiP and there would have been much less drama and roster changes. If NiP now buys the LD spot all ends relatively well though and LD would be finally gone.

Atn players did it right. They founded their own gaming company and let it hold the spot. So they just played under the Atn brand, without Atn having any excessive power over them. So they were able to look for a better offer for this season and all is fine.


Btw It makes me shudder to think that Quantic almost qualifed for LCS and their scumbag Canadian owner would have gotten hold of the spot. He would have given his players as little as possible and used the Riot money to pay off his debts. Or tried to sell the spot to keep the money for himself.

Off-season = best season
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 04 2014 20:43 GMT
#1797
Great post Redox
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-04 20:47:55
January 04 2014 20:46 GMT
#1798
On January 05 2014 05:34 Redox wrote:
Btw It makes me shudder to think that Quantic almost qualifed for LCS and their scumbag Canadian owner would have gotten hold of the spot. He would have given his players as little as possible and used the Riot money to pay off his debts. Or tried to sell the spot to keep the money for himself.


You think he would have paid Hyun from that money? Could be possible, he probably just went super all in with the Loco team.
It's kind of tragic in a way that both times Quantic collapsed it was supposedly due to their LoL teams leaving.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 04 2014 21:00 GMT
#1799
Wasn't the Quantic the now C9 were leaving already the reformed quantic?
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
January 04 2014 21:11 GMT
#1800
Honestly, what former Alternate did, (create their own company, offer naming rights to a title sponsor) should be the standard, and RIOT should be helping teams achieve this.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Prev 1 88 89 90 91 92 328 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:00
#44
TKL 106
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RushiSC 139
UpATreeSC 129
TKL 106
JuggernautJason84
mouzHeroMarine 59
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 3192
EffOrt 449
Soma 378
PianO 127
Rush 110
hero 74
sorry 41
NotJumperer 39
Rock 29
soO 15
[ Show more ]
ivOry 9
Dota 2
qojqva3703
canceldota81
League of Legends
JimRising 469
Counter-Strike
fl0m1889
byalli507
adren_tv89
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK12
Other Games
singsing2080
B2W.Neo922
hiko777
ceh9521
Beastyqt444
Hui .138
Liquid`VortiX135
ArmadaUGS132
crisheroes123
Mew2King84
QueenE82
Trikslyr54
oskar46
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream644
Other Games
WardiTV239
BasetradeTV111
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift3074
• Jankos1631
• Shiphtur127
Other Games
• imaqtpie366
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Team League
18h 44m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 6h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 17h
OSC
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maru vs Zoun
Cure vs ByuN
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs MaxPax
Rogue vs TriGGeR
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-15
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.