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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22519 Posts
January 05 2014 17:23 GMT
#1821
On January 06 2014 02:10 bokchoi wrote:
The lack of stable Western organizations just goes to show that Riot should allow sister/brother teams in the LCS (aka allow organizations to have 2 teams). I can understand why they would be against it, potential monopolization of a scene/players, but at the same time the Korean and Chinese scenes have shown exactly why this model works. I also feel like it would've prevented the VES/EG debacle and rumored LD/NiP situation.

It wouldn't have stopped it all because then you still get "gz for winning our team a spot, now f*** off and play on the B team".

But yes the rule is dumb.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
January 05 2014 17:48 GMT
#1822
the problem is that organizations are picking up teams or teams are signing with organizations. organizations need to start putting together their own teams from the best talent available.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 17:55:38
January 05 2014 17:52 GMT
#1823
On January 06 2014 02:10 bokchoi wrote:
The lack of stable Western organizations just goes to show that Riot should allow sister/brother teams in the LCS (aka allow organizations to have 2 teams). I can understand why they would be against it, potential monopolization of a scene/players, but at the same time the Korean and Chinese scenes have shown exactly why this model works. I also feel like it would've prevented the VES/EG debacle and rumored LD/NiP situation.


I agree that the rule is counter productive, but you already brought up a good point as to why it isn't that devastating of a rule, since in the Chinese scene it's the same rule, and they still manage to do it. But it obviously is somewhat of a barrier that you only can overcome with a lot of bureaucracy for teams who want to do it.

... I wonder though, if this rule wasnt't in place, how many people would have complained about TSM.a and TSM.b being place 1 and 2 in the NA LCS and especially how people would have perceived the final matchup of the NA regionals. Most likely including a TSM.eu now aswell.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
January 05 2014 18:56 GMT
#1824
Millenium will annonce a big news in 5 minuts.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 18:57:19
January 05 2014 18:56 GMT
#1825

On January 06 2014 03:56 Aeromi wrote:
Millenium will annonce a big news in 5 minuts.

A website said that millenium is going to pick up ex-atn. I guess it's time for confirmation
Glorious SEA doto
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
January 05 2014 18:57 GMT
#1826
On January 06 2014 03:56 Fusilero wrote:
https://twitter.com/ImSoFresh_/status/419853807162765312
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 03:56 Aeromi wrote:
Millenium will annonce a big news in 5 minuts.

A website said that millenium is going to pick up ex-atn. I guess it's time for confirmation

I'll link if ATN joins Mill !
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 05 2014 18:59 GMT
#1827
By "pick up ex atn" I hope Aranea &co will keep their "company" to have the power over the lcs spot and only take [M] as title sponsor like they did with aTn.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 19:05:17
January 05 2014 19:01 GMT
#1828
http://www.millenium.org/lol/accueil/esport/nouvelle-equipe-millenium-les-anciens-joueurs-d-alternate-rejoignent-millenium-100732

ex-ATN joins Mille.

If you want I can sum up what Llewellys said in the video.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 05 2014 19:03 GMT
#1829
After try 12414123 millenium finally get a relevant league team
Glorious SEA doto
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 05 2014 19:05 GMT
#1830
On January 06 2014 04:03 Fusilero wrote:
After try 12414123 millenium finally get a relevant league team


and one without a frenchie lul
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 19:11:21
January 05 2014 19:11 GMT
#1831
Millenium has now two gaming house ! First time for an european team !
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22519 Posts
January 05 2014 19:22 GMT
#1832
On January 06 2014 03:59 AsnSensation wrote:
By "pick up ex atn" I hope Aranea &co will keep their "company" to have the power over the lcs spot and only take [M] as title sponsor like they did with aTn.

Considering it has worked very well for em sofar i would say they will keep it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 05 2014 21:00 GMT
#1833
On January 06 2014 04:11 Aeromi wrote:
Millenium has now two gaming house ! First time for an european team !

Do you know where the house for the Millenium LoL team is?
Off-season = best season
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 21:30:15
January 05 2014 21:29 GMT
#1834
On January 06 2014 06:00 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 04:11 Aeromi wrote:
Millenium has now two gaming house ! First time for an european team !

Do you know where the house for the Millenium LoL team is?

Nop, Llewellys said that the team has a gaming house in Cologne, maybe they have the ame house when they were playing for ATN.
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Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
January 05 2014 22:42 GMT
#1835
Bad move from ATN imo, M is by far one of the worst organisation around LoL.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 05 2014 22:54 GMT
#1836
I don't think they have to worry about it. As far as I know it's just a sponsorship again, just as with Alternate, so they do their own thing, with their own management, teamhouse etc. and probably just have to worry about how much money Millenium gives them and maybe some other minor obligations.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 06 2014 00:28 GMT
#1837
On January 05 2014 18:50 AsnSensation wrote:
Did you just compare E-sports (with teams consisting of 5) with a prison? xD


It is a saying (figure of speech) in American English for when a boss is being ordered around by the people he should be supervising
Carrilord has arrived.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-06 23:36:18
January 06 2014 23:35 GMT
#1838
Does it bother anyone else that Millenium is misspelled? I assume it is spelled with one "n" in French but it bothers me visually to see it that way in English ...
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
January 07 2014 02:04 GMT
#1839
On January 07 2014 08:35 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Does it bother anyone else that Millenium is misspelled? I assume it is spelled with one "n" in French but it bothers me visually to see it that way in English ...

Yeah I know, it made me lose a question in Persona 3 or 4, when the Millennium question happened.
Bothers me the other way.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 07:22:15
January 07 2014 07:21 GMT
#1840
So seems like NiP will play in Coke League for the next split and not buy the LD spot. From what you read lineup probably unchanged.

twitter.com/NiPDeficio/status/420415667913768960

Quite happy about that, as everrything else caused even more unnecessary drama. Also Coke League will be interesting to watch and get attention this way, especially if Oce's team qualifies as well.

Only negative thing for me is that we will still have LD org in LCS, but most likely only for 1 split.
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