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Apex
United States7227 Posts
On August 12 2014 16:59 419 wrote: is the ban from KR competition really even meaningful? It is to some extent because there was whispers of CLG thinking about skipping out on Spring Split to try and participate in OGN and re-enter during Summer Split. Now that option is out the window for sure. Would have been at least interesting to see given that there's hardly any international tourneys anymore. Thanks for that Riot. | ||
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caelym
United States6430 Posts
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On August 12 2014 17:12 Apex wrote: It is to some extent because there was whispers of CLG thinking about skipping out on Spring Split to try and participate in OGN and re-enter during Summer Split. Now that option is out the window for sure. Would have been at least interesting to see given that there's hardly any international tourneys anymore. Thanks for that Riot. No, that would never happend. They still would need to play in coke league to requalify. So ban mean shit. Now riot need to ban or fine Seraph/Lustboy for doing same shit in NA. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22628 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
At some point, day when you're going to be professional will happen. - We messed up and they had to borrow accounts to at least be able to play because of SSN or how is it called? - Well, yep, let's ban and fine them, they clearly violated rules intentionally, it's not our fault at all. By the way. Happy birthday, dexter! And Zikz, yep. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On August 12 2014 18:40 caelym wrote: I don't get it. Riot messed up by giving CLG the wrong accounts, which forces them to find a roundabout solution for practice, and then get punished for it. wtf. Well, the "roundabout solution" is illegal. | ||
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
It's against the EULA because they don't want people ELO boosting and sharing fully unlocked accounts, but clearly this wasn't what was happening. Riot had the choice to acknowledge their own mistake and asses their rules in a dynamic, non-literal sense, but instead they decided to enforce the rule tee and now look like assholes for it. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On August 12 2014 23:31 onlywonderboy wrote: It's against the EULA because they don't want people ELO boosting and sharing fully unlocked accounts, but clearly this wasn't what was happening. Riot had the choice to acknowledge their own mistake and asses their rules in a dynamic, non-literal sense, but instead they decided to enforce the rule tee and now look like assholes for it. Well, it's always double-edged sword, when you can either follow your rules without thinking too much on it and be right or just intelligently avoid hot topic and warn about it silently, without causing such drama and be right again. Nick Allen wants to be Adam Sterling, apparently, so we're here now. It's not like OGN ban hurts CLG too much with current rules of Coke Zero and 3/5 players in roster, but still. Also, i can't wait what will happen, if suddenly more than 3 guys from same team decide to retire, what will Riot do with it. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On August 12 2014 23:31 onlywonderboy wrote: It's against the EULA because they don't want people ELO boosting and sharing fully unlocked accounts, but clearly this wasn't what was happening. Riot had the choice to acknowledge their own mistake and asses their rules in a dynamic, non-literal sense, but instead they decided to enforce the rule tee and now look like assholes for it. Riot and Riot Korea are largely different entities. What CLG did in Korea breaks laws. | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On August 13 2014 01:04 Gahlo wrote: Riot and Riot Korea are largely different entities. What CLG did in Korea breaks laws. I don't understand why nobody else realizes this. People in here just love to shit on all of the Riots and KeSPA. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On August 12 2014 18:48 orzeu wrote: No, that would never happend. They still would need to play in coke league to requalify. So ban mean shit. Give up your LCS spot. Go to Korea for Winter season of Champions. If you get eliminated early, get back just in time to qualify for first Challenger Series. If you get to quarters/semis, skip on first Challenger Series and qualify for second, win it, win playoffs, get back to LCS. Alternatively: Doublelift, Seraph, Link, Moo and Dexter leave CLG and form a new team called Totes Not CLG. Totes Not CLG goes to Korea to compete in OGN. Meanwhile, CLG reforms with Nien, Hotshot, Chaox and some randoms. Sadly CLG does badly in season and goes to relegations. Thankfully, TNC disbands after one season and the roster is acquired by CLG. They re-qualify for LCS. Curtain. On a different note, it's pretty clear that Riot's rules are generally designed so that teams will have trouble with competing in different regions, so I'm not even slightly suprised that something like this happened to CLG. I'm glad something is finally happening though, maybe my I'll have my dream of an alternative 3rd party tournament circuit where the top teams will play in instead of staying on CS -> LCS -> Worlds route. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On August 13 2014 01:26 AlterKot wrote: Give up your LCS spot. Go to Korea for Winter season of Champions. If you get eliminated early, get back just in time to qualify for first Challenger Series. If you get to quarters/semis, skip on first Challenger Series and qualify for second, win it, win playoffs, get back to LCS. Alternatively: Doublelift, Seraph, Link, Moo and Dexter leave CLG and form a new team called Totes Not CLG. Totes Not CLG goes to Korea to compete in OGN. Meanwhile, CLG reforms with Nien, Hotshot, Chaox and some randoms. Sadly CLG does badly in season and goes to relegations. Thankfully, TNC disbands after one season and the roster is acquired by CLG. They re-qualify for LCS. Curtain. On a different note, it's pretty clear that Riot's rules are generally designed so that teams will have trouble with competing in different regions, so I'm not even slightly suprised that something like this happened to CLG. I'm glad something is finally happening though, maybe my I'll have my dream of an alternative 3rd party tournament circuit where the top teams will play in instead of staying on CS -> LCS -> Worlds route. CLG's spot would be voided by changing 3+ players in a single split. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On August 13 2014 10:14 TitusVI wrote: Wondering if they have enought time to nerf gnar before worlds. Probably going to be disabled throughout. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
On August 13 2014 01:38 Gahlo wrote: CLG's spot would be voided by changing 3+ players in a single split. No, because DL/seraph/link are on CLG's roster as subs, they just can't play any LCS games because they are in Korea paying for TNCLG. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On August 13 2014 10:52 miicah wrote: No, because DL/seraph/link are on CLG's roster as subs, they just can't play any LCS games because they are in Korea paying for TNCLG. I doubt Riot would let people be subs on a team while being on a professional team in another region. In other news, worlds will be a private draw. I think it's unfortunate because of the hype drop, but I think people(reddit) needs to put the tinfoil away. http://na.lolesports.com/articles/2014-worlds-group-draw | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On August 13 2014 11:01 Gahlo wrote: I doubt Riot would let people be subs on a team while being on a professional team in another region. In other news, worlds will be a private draw. I think it's unfortunate because of the hype drop, but I think people(reddit) needs to put the tinfoil away. http://na.lolesports.com/articles/2014-worlds-group-draw Predetermined brackets and groups have its drawbacks, and if Riot Gaming hadn't lost all their credibility with competitive integrity, it wouldn't be such an issue. It's not that Riot Gaming's decision to hide group placements in fear that it will influence the qualification stages in a negative matter that is such a problem, but the fact that they went out of their way to host the World Championship in multiple places and seeded the groups to maximize regional diversity, and now claim that a transparency can be sacrificed due to the circumstances created by these issues that have NOTHING to do with competitive integrity, but still have the audacity to state that competitive integrity is of the upmost importance when we saw in the past time and time again, that they have WAY down in their list of priorities. It's just hilarious, and I have zero problem with people calling Riot Gaming out for what they are. | ||
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