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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.

Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned!
- Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM
- Comparing people to Hitler
- Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum.
MasterBlasterCaster
Profile Joined October 2011
United States568 Posts
December 14 2011 10:42 GMT
#781
On December 14 2011 19:40 Lasbike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:39 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:
Yeah it's pretty disgusting...

But the people who are glad that it happened are just plain pathetic.

I'm glad it happened.

Well then I guess you know exactly what you are now too.
ElemUnit
Profile Joined May 2011
United States38 Posts
December 14 2011 10:42 GMT
#782
Good decision

this will blow over in time
FreedomPeacer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada67 Posts
December 14 2011 10:42 GMT
#783
On December 14 2011 19:37 CuSToM wrote:
Haha why are people saying they want to refund their ticket etc? Naniwa wasn't going to go anywhere in Code S anyways so what is the big deal?

Don't disrespect Nestea and maybe this won't happen...

because they dont want to support an organization that screws their favourite players
Legace
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden342 Posts
December 14 2011 10:42 GMT
#784
On December 14 2011 19:39 Luppy1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:37 Legace wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:30 mgl0x9 wrote:
A Korean player WOULD NEVER do this and everyone knows it


Choya, Byun and CoCa.

They would never...


All of them got punished too. Do you think before you post?



I didn't say they weren't. I also read the post I quoted, did you?

Do YOU think before you post?
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
December 14 2011 10:42 GMT
#785
On December 14 2011 19:41 teide wrote:
No more season tickets ..

This was invitational event and naniwa didnt break any rules.

yes he did
Stroke Me Lady Fame
Sava90
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark144 Posts
December 14 2011 10:42 GMT
#786
This is just ridiculous. In other games such as counterstrike, where the teams in some tourneys HAS to play 30 rounds, even though the result will be decided after 16 rounds, they end up just using shit weapons and lolstrats <.<
Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the present.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
December 14 2011 10:42 GMT
#787
On December 14 2011 19:40 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:36 ReaperX wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:29 MasterReY wrote:
i think its funny that so many people treat this as GSL disqualified naniwa from code S. This is NOT the case.
GSL decided to give the spot to Naniwa for FREE as a GIFT. Now Naniwa behaved bad so he wont get that present.

If Naniwa qualified through Code A qualifiers and managed to fight his way through Code A and the Up and Down matches, then sure it would be a bit too hard to take that hard-earned Code S spot away from him, but in this case its totally acceptable. They invite foreigners for FREE to their league so those foreigners who are so lucky to get a spot should at least behave in a way that is acceptable in korean culture.


He got it through his MLG seed due to Leenock being in Code S already... Man you need to get your facts right. What do you mean gift? It was a fucking done deal by GOM and MLG.

What he meant was Naniwa didn't have to go through the harsh journey of qualifying from Code-B up to Code-S but instead place decently high in a foreign tournament and obtained a FREE seed straight to Code-S


Yeah a player who's 1-12 in Korea (Naniwa, lol) is basically incomparable to someone who qualified into Code A, made it into up-and-downs, and made it into Code S.
powerade = dragoon blood
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
December 14 2011 10:42 GMT
#788
If that translation of the rule is completely accurate, "offend" seems like a bit of a stretch compared to what went down and imo the rules shouldn't be open to that much interpretation.

I still don't understand why people are so mad about it.
NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
December 14 2011 10:42 GMT
#789
On December 14 2011 19:37 CuSToM wrote:
Haha why are people saying they want to refund their ticket etc? Naniwa wasn't going to go anywhere in Code S anyways so what is the big deal?

Don't disrespect Nestea and maybe this won't happen...

Pure speculation. Who are you to say he won't do well?
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
December 14 2011 10:42 GMT
#790
On December 14 2011 19:39 ptrpb wrote:
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On December 14 2011 19:36 bana wrote:
Remebering TSLRain / FnaticRain ? He was disqualified from code S (or whole GSL) for 2 seasons just because of not showing up in the group drawings

Yes but those are important and worth something. Rain put GOM in an awkward position when he said he'd be there and then wasn't there.
Based on some of the things that have been said, NaNiwa told GOM he was going to forfeit the match because it was meaningless and they still put him out there to play that meaningless match, so GOM put themselves in that situation and then punished NaNiwa

Naniwa put GOM in that situation. He agreed to play all the games. He agreed to their rules. Then at the last minute he said "Fuck it I'm gonna throw this game" and GOM said you're going to play the game as you agreed to. They probably knew then they'd ban him if he did.

Naniwa did this to himself. He agreed to the terms. He didn't abide by the rules of the tournament (unfit for progamer rule). He got banned for it.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
December 14 2011 10:43 GMT
#791
Gom should have been professional about being professional.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
December 14 2011 10:43 GMT
#792
I'm not even a big fan of Naniwa. But this wasn't the right move by GOM
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
December 14 2011 10:43 GMT
#793
On December 14 2011 19:41 Kazuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:40 alexbaldwin wrote:
Well, GOM will never be seeing any more of my money.


Your loss.


Not really, there are plenty of HQ restreams and VoDs, you never really had to pay to watch GSL.
abou
Profile Joined June 2010
Denmark26 Posts
December 14 2011 10:43 GMT
#794
Gom overreacting, I support Naniwa! Stupid to force players to play matches that mean nothing.
www.sc2replays.dk
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
December 14 2011 10:43 GMT
#795
This is one of the most stupid things that I've seen, even against a colorful background of ESPORTS drama bullshit. I'm not going to argue about what Naniwa did at all, I don't think there is much of an argument to be had, but this really takes away the illusion of an international tournament that GSL tries to cultivate. In East Asia, appearances are the most important thing, even at the expense of the truly meaningful. Naniwa probably should have taken that into consideration, or had someone to tell him to consider it. What's bizarre is that this is giving GSL a far worse image than most things a player is capable of doing. Whoever's making decisions over there probably should have taken that into consideration or had people tell them about it. Actually, Gom seems like they need to have more people involved in their decision-making all the time.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
December 14 2011 10:43 GMT
#796
During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours


So all the terrans who do 1-1-1 all-ins should be banned too?

+ Show Spoiler +
Kidding, kidding, kidding...
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
December 14 2011 10:43 GMT
#797
On December 14 2011 19:41 teide wrote:
No more season tickets ..

This was invitational event and naniwa didnt break any rules.


He did break a rule of professional conduct written on Gom's website.
It is also arguably the most prestigious tournament to Koreans.
arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
December 14 2011 10:43 GMT
#798
And btw, is NO ONE reacting to the fact that they woopsydaisy gave a Code S spot to SEN?

What in the hell is that?
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." -Carl Sagan || Flash || Mvp || Naniwa ||
Drizzt3
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States189 Posts
December 14 2011 10:43 GMT
#799
You cant argue that this is good that GOM is treating foreigners like koreans, because if you think that treatment is even correct for a korean in the first place, GOM repeatedly treats other foreigners as above koreans with invites to play in Code A/S, so at the least they're not being consistent in the slightest.
"Before my time is done I will look down at your corpse and smile."-Brad Pitt (Achilles)
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
December 14 2011 10:43 GMT
#800
On December 14 2011 19:42 cosmincontra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:37 CuSToM wrote:
Haha why are people saying they want to refund their ticket etc? Naniwa wasn't going to go anywhere in Code S anyways so what is the big deal?

Don't disrespect Nestea and maybe this won't happen...

because they dont want to support an organization that screws their favourite players

he broke the rules and proved he doesn't deserve a spot. he's a child, not a professional

he can grow up and earn another spot in the future
Stroke Me Lady Fame
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