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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:56 MLG_Lee wrote: Folks, we're just becoming aware of the decision from GSL. We don't have all the facts yet and are investigating. Please stay tuned. Thanks, Lee Sounds good, I'm interested in hearing how it will pan out with MLG. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51081 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:56 MLG_Lee wrote: Folks, we're just becoming aware of the decision from GSL. We don't have all the facts yet and are investigating. Please stay tuned. Thanks, Lee clear this shitsorm my friend,for all our sakes! | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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HigoSeco
Chile232 Posts
I was ok with Naniwa having some kind of punishment for his behaviour, but GOMTV should stick to it's own rules and not resort to this bullshit to kick Naniwa out | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:46 StarStruck wrote: Well, you should have written the code of conduct for your Tournament beforehand and informing all the players. Not after one event. This wasn't the only event either. GOM has had problems with their Korean players as well. You seem to be missing the point... Naniwa (Probably) Signed a contract where it was stated that he was supposed to play a group stage round robin. It probably didn't say anything about forfeiting matches in case you have no chance of advancing. He tried to ask for a walkover. The organizers said he had to play because it was the agreement. Naniwa went and tried to be a smart ass. He broke the agreement, and now gom has the right to break the agreement and take his code S spot too. You know why some up/down matches are not played when players have no chance of advancing? Probably because some tournament admin walks up to them and ask if they want to play the last matches, they say no, the admin says ok, and they go home. Both parts have to agree in order to break some contract. Then again, there might not even be a piece of paper, and I could be totally wrong. But I guess we'll never know unless GOM or naniwa speak up about it. | ||
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Clearout
Norway1060 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:56 MLG_Lee wrote: MLG on the ball, thanks! Folks, we're just becoming aware of the decision from GSL. We don't have all the facts yet and are investigating. Please stay tuned. Thanks, Lee | ||
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:56 MLG_Lee wrote: Folks, we're just becoming aware of the decision from GSL. We don't have all the facts yet and are investigating. Please stay tuned. Thanks, Lee do you accept part of the responsiblity in missleading the masses releasing unchecked information? and if yes, will you reprimand/fire attention seeking slasher for lousy journalism ^^ User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:56 B.I.G. wrote: the poor guy just seems to be so socially awkard I dont think he realises how people will react to half the stuff he does... Yep, that's exactly what I think. I couldnt care less about him throwing a game honestly, but what baffled me is that he thought it would end up fine and that nobody would want to see a "real" game (see interview). He really needs to improve his social skills. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51081 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:57 zeru wrote: Undeserved and invited out of popularity. highest non code S GSL point ranked person should've gotten it. i dont approve of that replacement at all. <.< who would that person be then? | ||
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Govou
Canada1072 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:53 MorroW wrote: well as a player, again, i would never want to act a game for my fans. would make me feel like a fraud. plus i would never want to watch or hear that flash (who i am fan of) would be forced to act a game that doesnt matter but if you sign the contract and make it clear with the tournament admins that you HAVE to play ALL games, then this was wrong by naniwa. but we get into these iffy situations at times because of the tournament organisation, and their format doesnt make it clear to the players what they have to do when they sign up for the tournament. if gsl said in beforehand "naniwa, even if you lose 0-3 and some other guy lose 0-3, you still have to play your game against him even if the game doesnt matter at all, try to make the game look good okok?". so agreeing to these things in beforehand is the orgas responsibility, not the players if naniwa knew this would revoke his code S, im 110% sure he wouldnt probe rush. but the orga failed to "warn" him or make it clear to him about the conditions which is the reason all this happened in the first place. that is why i think it was wrong for gsl to point the finger at naniwa and punish him. that is why i think its the tournament orgas to blame, not the player again you are putting the responsiblity on GOM and their tournament structure. Based on the backlash by (mostly) swedish people, I would say it may have a flaw. However, there are some major tournaments in the world that runs by group stage-> tournament format without any of this bullshit going on. Also IMO, GOM did not have to baby lecture Naniwa about how he was required to at least put the least amount effort. Naniwa agreed to play knowing the format before hand... and now suddenly he finds the format BS when he is 0-3. yeah whatever. Most of all, I dont even think this kind topic is debatable. I'm a avid sports fan and I would have flipped out if something like this happened in any other sports. Where plays just dick around and do nothing. If this behaviour is accepted in Sweden, I want to move there. Because I can find every loophole in the contract and just mail it in. | ||
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JuneMay
49 Posts
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Hnnngg
United States1101 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:57 zeru wrote: Undeserved and invited out of popularity. highest non code S GSL point ranked person should've gotten it. i dont approve of that replacement at all. <.< Yeah, who's this Sen guy? Fucking nobody, probably not the best Zerg foreigner either. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51081 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:58 snailz wrote: do you accept part of the responsiblity in missleading the masses releasing unchecked information? and if yes, will you reprimand/fire attention seeking slasher for lousy journalism ^^ don't fire slasher! | ||
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:56 MLG_Lee wrote: Folks, we're just becoming aware of the decision from GSL. We don't have all the facts yet and are investigating. Please stay tuned. Thanks, Lee What's it gotta do with you if he didnt earn the spot thru MLG? | ||
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Wallstreet11
133 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:55 Avril_Lavigne wrote: Then I guess the point is proven and this is the image that Sweden portrays, according to your word. Swedes does´n´t liek hypocrites and fakes as far as I have seen and therefore they don´t care much for "fake" matches. Naniwa still joined the game but simply played it out in the most ineffective way possible for a win. So laughable that he gets punished for it. | ||
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Clefairy
1570 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:58 snailz wrote: do you accept part of the responsiblity in missleading the masses releasing unchecked information? and if yes, will you reprimand/fire attention seeking slasher for lousy journalism ^^ Slasher isn't a journalist. He's just a guy who bleats on about his opinion and forces it onto the big names he is able to get interviews with somehow. User was warned for this post | ||
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YourOldBuddy
Iceland94 Posts
That said I'm was about to buy GSL code but I'm less likely when they don't live up to the G in GSL. I hereby solemnly swear to buy access to GSL when either SASE or NANIWA gets in. HUK, Stephano or | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:57 BLinD-RawR wrote: clear this shitsorm my friend,for all our sakes! Yeah, imagine MLG decided to refuse to pay for Korean's flight to MLG Providence. I'm SURE GSL wouldn't have minded that right? The fact that GSL even took this decision without factoring in their partnership is even worse than I thought initially. This could literally break the exchange program. | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:53 aderum wrote: This "behavior" is accepted in Sweden, so i dont see your point. In any professional environment in Sweden, no it's not. Don't make shit up. If it's cool among the kids in the school yard is irrelevant. | ||
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
you're right, make him shave again  | ||
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