PC Gamer journalist Richard McCormick recently gave me some info about Jaedong, Bisu, Fantasy and JangBi's appearance at Blizzcon. Wasn't able to release information before, but able to now. He will be on Live On Three RIGHT NOW to discuss this article and his time at BlizzCon, and how eSports has been taken at PC Gamer - Tune in at http://www.Twitch.tv/OneMoreGameTV
Jaedong, Fantasy, Bisu, and Jangbi are some of the world’s premier StarCraft: Brood War players. This year, these four StarCrafting superstars were invited to Blizzcon.
They were there to see how StarCraft II – and esports in general – is consumed in the west. Confirmed by a Blizzard representative, Jaedong, Bisu, Fantasy and Jangbi (along with a representative from the Korean e-Sports Association that runs the league they play in) sat in on the StarCraft II tournaments taking place at the show – the GSL finals and the Blizzcon Invitational – to see first-hand the changes that have taken place in international pro-gaming during 2011, after hearing of a widening fan-base in the west. The players were reportedly blown away by the noise and spectacle of the events
So.... You couldnt say that they were there... to watch e-sports? Seems like... a not "secret reason" to invite extremely popular pros to a event... more like... publicity... Nothing new really, so i dont see how this is really "news"...
This made me feel even a bit worse about the fact that they were constantly harassed by fans wanting autographs and shit while they were sitting there trying to watch the tournament.
On the other hand, maybe that gave them an even stronger impression of how big SC2 is getting.
god damn you slasher. if what you wrote there is the "reason" they came, then please, you shouldnt have opened your mouth about something everyone was already saying.... wow....
Well, the reason was always pretty obvious (Unless people were really going to buy "oh, did we just so happen to invite you to a conference that just coincidentally had the finals of 2 big tournaments?" (Not saying they tried that, just saying =P))
On October 27 2011 08:06 Malpractice.248 wrote: So.... You couldnt say that they were there... to watch e-sports? Seems like... a not "secret reason" to invite extremely popular pros to a event... more like... publicity... Nothing new really, so i dont see how this is really "news"...
It seems like this was more of a "This could be yours..... " type of deal.
Was this initiated by Blizzard? That's a pretty amazing thing for them to do....
well im glad they checked the scene out. Even though they wont be switching due to them like bw aand contract reasons even if they wanted too, im still glad they see the potential of sc2
Pretty self explanatory. Some of the best names in BW checking how their potential future is stacking up. Seeing if there is actually a thriving scene for SC2 or if it is all hype. This literally means nothing as far as players switching. They could stay with BW for who knows how long which makes the visit overall anticlimactic for me personally, cool to see some huge names checking out the SC2 scene though.
On October 27 2011 08:06 Malpractice.248 wrote: So.... You couldnt say that they were there... to watch e-sports? Seems like... a not "secret reason" to invite extremely popular pros to a event... more like... publicity... Nothing new really, so i dont see how this is really "news"...
It seems like this was more of a "This could be yours..... " type of deal.
Was this initiated by Blizzard? That's a pretty amazing thing for them to do....
Even so; What i'm saying is this: Was it worth the first post from slasher "OMG I HAVE DETAILS ON WHY THEY WERE THERE" When, they were there to simply watch esports as blizzard holds a carrot in front of them, trying to get them to sc2 and convince kespa its good? It just doesnt seem super hype worthy to say...They came to watch the esports...
On October 27 2011 08:06 Malpractice.248 wrote: So.... You couldnt say that they were there... to watch e-sports? Seems like... a not "secret reason" to invite extremely popular pros to a event... more like... publicity... Nothing new really, so i dont see how this is really "news"...
Yah...kind of figured they would watch some SC2 while they were there...
Kind of disappointed that was the only reason they went. I'm assuming they're still not allowed to play SC2 publicly (even just show matches)?
Well that's all well and good but it seems like a bit of a waste. It can't be cheap to fly them over, and having them only watch blizzcon and gsl seems a little bit too little. Blizzard should've at least tried to got them to play sc2 so we could see their skills at work.
On October 27 2011 08:06 Malpractice.248 wrote: So.... You couldnt say that they were there... to watch e-sports? Seems like... a not "secret reason" to invite extremely popular pros to a event... more like... publicity... Nothing new really, so i dont see how this is really "news"...
Yah...kind of figured they would watch some SC2 while they were there...
Kind of disappointed that was the only reason they went. I'm assuming they're still not allowed to play SC2 publicly (even just show matches)?
Since a KESPA representative was there they probably could have made it work if they really wanted to as a sign of good faith since KESPA wants to get into sc2 when GOMs exclusive contract runs out.
On October 27 2011 08:12 Chocolate wrote: Well that's all well and good but it seems like a bit of a waste. It can't be cheap to fly them over, and having them only watch blizzcon and gsl seems a little bit too little. Blizzard should've at least tried to got them to play sc2 so we could see their skills at work.
Uhh, their skills are at playing BW. How does having them play SC2, a game they have little or no experience with, show anyone their skills?
So the only reason Blizz invited them was to sit in on the atmosphere of the two massive tourneys/audiences at the convention? Just to see how big it's gotten?
On October 27 2011 08:12 Chocolate wrote: Well that's all well and good but it seems like a bit of a waste. It can't be cheap to fly them over, and having them only watch blizzcon and gsl seems a little bit too little. Blizzard should've at least tried to got them to play sc2 so we could see their skills at work.
Cheap is a relative term. Those flights would be expensive to most individuals. To a company like Blizzard? Not even a footnote of a footnote. Better to just leave the invites as no-strings-attached.
Glad GSL finals had such an amazing crowd. Too bad the Blizzcon Invite wasn't as good, but I guess that just showed them how big even a flop of a tourny could be.
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
So basically they were invited so that they could be duped into thinking that WoW and Blizzard fanboys are fans of pro SC2. I doubt they were impressed considering that large crowds showed up for the OSL and pro league finals.
Why can't the BW scene just be left alone without people cheer leading its demise? I'm really disappointed in you Slasher, you of all people should no what its like to see a great game scene fall apart, you shouldn't be bandwagoning the destruction of the BW scene.
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Yeah, and the part about crowd cheering less in korea was pretty funny too... They might want to watch a bit more BW VODs before talking nonsense.
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
the ignorance shown towards just how big BW finals are in Korea really amuses me , thx for finding this little gem
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
I thought he meant the GSL finals held in America was much larger than all the GSL finals held in Korea, so that the turning point was the possibility of a shift towards the West being the main place for esports in the future.
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
I was actually trying to find this picture and say the exact thing. -_-
I really thought they would be there at least to test and give some feedback of HoTS or something, but this? Pretty anti climatic if you ask me.
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
Indeed...
Lets not get too crazy, Blizzcon was pretty amazing but..
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
Honestly, the Blizzcon crowd looked about the same size... plus the article meant the attendance was bigger than all of the GSL's in Korea, also the pic was from 2007.
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
Honestly, the Blizzcon crowd looked about the same size... plus the article meant the attendance was bigger than all of the GSL's in Korea, also the pic was from 2007.
the blizzcon Crowed was massive, and thats only the people we could see
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
I thought he meant the GSL finals held in America was much larger than all the GSL finals held in Korea, so that the turning point was the possibility of a shift towards the West being the main place for esports in the future.
If not, then yeah, your pic says it all!
Yeah, I meant that GSL Korean finals were smaller than the Blizzcon version. I'll amend the text accordingly.
On October 27 2011 08:22 Fission wrote: Cool, now that all you BW guys have come in and spam quoted the pic of some proleague final, can you stop now? Please?
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
Honestly, the Blizzcon crowd looked about the same size... plus the article meant the attendance was bigger than all of the GSL's in Korea, also the pic was from 2007.
Uh, you haven't figured out that this is an OUTDOOR crowd? We're talking enough people to fill up a stadium here.
On October 27 2011 08:22 Fission wrote: Cool, now that all you BW guys have come in and spam quoted the pic of some proleague final, can you stop now? Please?
The pic is relevant as criticism to the article. Statements such as ''Exposing players raised on those experiences to the full-force of an American sports crowd must’ve been an impressive experience.'' are just weird.
1) I believe we have enough events going on right now between the GSL and various foreign tournaments such as MLG, IPL, blizzcon, Dreamhack. While GSL may remain the same in terms of frequency and schedules, MLG is already working to organize more events throughout the year.
Do not overdo it. We really do not need kespa to run another league of its own unless the current pool of progamer increases two fold. SC2 still has room to grow, but walk steadily. Run and the scene may trip over itself and fall face flat on the ground.
2) I still like BW. I do not want the BW teams to switch over to SC2. I am fine if kespa allows the current BW teams to have a sc2 division IF it does not interfere with the fragile state of BW.
I really do wish there is a BW:HD project where an updated BW graphics client can interact with the old client. This way the old pros can still play in an environment they are familiar with, while introducing new audiences to BW.
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
Honestly, the Blizzcon crowd looked about the same size... plus the article meant the attendance was bigger than all of the GSL's in Korea, also the pic was from 2007.
the blizzcon Crowed was massive, and thats only the people we could see
Highest attendance for PL final : 120 000. There were 40000 in 2010, less this year because of this typhoon problem in China... Plus most people who attend blizzcon play WoW.
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
I thought he meant the GSL finals held in America was much larger than all the GSL finals held in Korea, so that the turning point was the possibility of a shift towards the West being the main place for esports in the future.
If not, then yeah, your pic says it all!
Yeah, I meant that GSL Korean finals were smaller than the Blizzcon version. I'll amend the text accordingly.
That probably has a lot do with the fact that the finals were held at Blizzcon, which always has a million attendees.
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
Honestly, the Blizzcon crowd looked about the same size... plus the article meant the attendance was bigger than all of the GSL's in Korea, also the pic was from 2007.
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
I thought he meant the GSL finals held in America was much larger than all the GSL finals held in Korea, so that the turning point was the possibility of a shift towards the West being the main place for esports in the future.
If not, then yeah, your pic says it all!
Yeah, I meant that GSL Korean finals were smaller than the Blizzcon version. I'll amend the text accordingly.
oh wow, you're writer of the article (richard mccormick)? Thanks for interacting with the community by registering here and writing this article!
I'm happy that they can take SC2 seriously (maybe not salary wise) but I doubt any sane progamer with any amount of success will switch. And I hope none do unless they retire by their own means.
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
English comprehension: D
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
Way to take the article out of context.
Whether they mean SC2 finals or Korean ESPORTS events in general, the BW players invited to Blizzcon have a frame of reference that the picture I linked embodies.
They're BW players. That's what their finals look like.
The shock on their part cited in the article is more likely to be about how events outside of Korea are starting to reach the size that they're used to, not that the events are significantly larger than their own. That latter being what the article is trying to imply.
On October 27 2011 08:11 DaCruise wrote: So,,these old BW stars have been living in a cave or what?
no but obviously when BW is your life, you're not going to pay attention to SC2
they obviously know what it is, and that its having success overseas, but if you had never seen an MLG or BlizzCon, would you assume its as big as it is?
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
Way to take the article out of context.
Whether they mean SC2 finals or Korean ESPORTS events in general, the BW players invited to Blizzcon have a frame of reference that the picture I linked embodies.
They're BW players. That's what their finals look like.
The shock on their part cited in the article is more likely to be about how events outside of Korea are starting to reach the size that they're used to, not that the events are significantly larger than their own.
Yeah, it's that quote, combined with this gem
"The players were reportedly blown away by the noise and spectacle of the events."
that implies that the BW players have never seen a crowd larger than 500 people before. It's a pretty embarrassing article that tells us nothing we already didn't know before (Blizzard trying to entice them to play SC2).
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
referring to korean versions of GSL:
hmm, anaheim turnout was bigger i think, and BW doesnt draw crowds like that anymore in kr im pretty sure.
On October 27 2011 08:11 DaCruise wrote: So,,these old BW stars have been living in a cave or what?
no but obviously when BW is your life, you're not going to pay attention to SC2
they obviously know what it is, and that its having success overseas, but if you had never seen an MLG or BlizzCon, would you assume its as big as it is?
it's also not reasonable to assume that the entire blizzcon crowd was actual sc2 enthusiasts.
just for reference jaedong had been to LA before for wcg 2010; the korean bw pros would be surprised to see a crowd like that at a foreign event. It's not the crowd that's impressive, but that it expanded to the west.
I heard that some of them walked out from the events and walked around the venue instead, kind of insulting to their intellect doing it like this but then again from what I've heard koreans are stubbornly attached to broodwar so we'll see..
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
Way to take the article out of context.
Whether they mean SC2 finals or Korean ESPORTS events in general, the BW players invited to Blizzcon have a frame of reference that the picture I linked embodies.
They're BW players. That's what their finals look like.
The shock on their part cited in the article is more likely to be about how events outside of Korea are starting to reach the size that they're used to, not that the events are significantly larger than their own.
Yeah, it's that quote, combined with this gem
"The players were reportedly blown away by the noise and spectacle of the events."
that implies that the BW players have never seen a crowd larger than 500 people before. It's a pretty embarrassing article that tells us nothing we already didn't know before (Blizzard trying to entice them to play SC2).
I think it's more to do with how the crowds act and cheer. Which pretty much every Korean to go to things like MLG has commented on. Foreigner crowds seem more apt to cheer, scream and chant vs things like using those clapping balloon/stick things.
I dont if anyone's mentioned this but the size of the crowd at blizzon is a little deceiving. The crowd was there for blizzcon, not an sc2 match. I think mlg sized crowds are a more appropriate gauge.
On October 27 2011 08:38 L3gendary wrote: I dont if anyone's mentioned this but the size of the crowd at blizzon is a little deceiving. The crowd was there for blizzcon, not an sc2 match. I think mlg sized crowds are a more appropriate gauge.
You make it seem like people were locked into chairs and could not leave, they obviously had interest in the GSL finals if they stayed and watched.
PC Gamer wrote: The Blizzcon GSL finals may become something of a turning point for esports. Not only was the event orders of magnitude larger than Korean versions ...
Way to take the article out of context.
Whether they mean SC2 finals or Korean ESPORTS events in general, the BW players invited to Blizzcon have a frame of reference that the picture I linked embodies.
They're BW players. That's what their finals look like.
The shock on their part cited in the article is more likely to be about how events outside of Korea are starting to reach the size that they're used to, not that the events are significantly larger than their own.
Yeah, it's that quote, combined with this gem
"The players were reportedly blown away by the noise and spectacle of the events."
that implies that the BW players have never seen a crowd larger than 500 people before. It's a pretty embarrassing article that tells us nothing we already didn't know before (Blizzard trying to entice them to play SC2).
As in, I'm reporting something. If the players said they were blown away by the noise and spectacle, I can't say "no, you've seen a crowd larger than 500 people."
On October 27 2011 08:11 DaCruise wrote: So,,these old BW stars have been living in a cave or what?
not living on a cave, but BW wasn't exactly this popular in the west as an e-sport... I think there have been more foreign tourneys this year for SC2 than for BW in all its history if I can hazard a wild guess.
Makes sense for GOM/Blizzard to show BW players and Kespa that the West is becoming a viable growth area for e-sports (fan and money-wise), especially since MBCgame has folded and so have many BW teams in recent months.
On October 27 2011 08:37 windsupernova wrote: Lol why do threads like this have to turn into
"My game can beat up your game"
thing?
Hahaha
Because BW people are frustrated about the west paying more attention to a inferior strategic game and SC2 people are frustrated that they have inferior strategic players playing their game. But what both don't realize is that 99.9% of the world doesn't give a flying fuck about competitive video games and that they should just be happy,that by having these kind of tournaments and events for their games in the first place,is a fucking miracle and should just be grateful for what they have right now.
On October 27 2011 08:38 L3gendary wrote: I dont if anyone's mentioned this but the size of the crowd at blizzon is a little deceiving. The crowd was there for blizzcon, not an sc2 match. I think mlg sized crowds are a more appropriate gauge.
All the other scheduled events during Blizzcon were over already. Everyone who was there could have went home/back to their hotels if they weren't interested in the finals.
On October 27 2011 08:38 L3gendary wrote: I dont if anyone's mentioned this but the size of the crowd at blizzon is a little deceiving. The crowd was there for blizzcon, not an sc2 match. I think mlg sized crowds are a more appropriate gauge.
You make it seem like people were locked into chairs and could not leave, they obviously had interest in the GSL finals if they stayed and watched.
People pay hundreds of dollars for Blizzcon tickets, flights, and hotel to go to Blizzcon which is held once a year. They're going to watch all the events regardless of whether they're fans or not. Probably 75% of Blizzcon attendees are WoW players.
On October 27 2011 08:37 windsupernova wrote: Lol why do threads like this have to turn into
"My game can beat up your game"
thing?
Hahaha
Because BW people are frustrated about the west paying more attention to a inferior strategic game and SC2 people are frustrated that they have inferior strategic players playing their game. But what both don't realize is that 99.9% of the world doesn't give a flying fuck about competitive video games and that they should just be happy,that by having these kind of tournaments and events for their games in the first place,is a fucking miracle and should just be grateful for what they have right now.
Really? You just going to be one of those assholes?
On October 27 2011 08:37 windsupernova wrote: Lol why do threads like this have to turn into
"My game can beat up your game"
thing?
Hahaha
Because BW people are frustrated about the west paying more attention to a inferior strategic game and SC2 people are frustrated that they have inferior strategic players playing their game. But what both don't realize is that 99.9% of the world doesn't give a flying fuck about competitive video games and that they should just be happy,that by having these kind of tournaments and events for their games in the first place,is a fucking miracle and should just be grateful for what they have right now.
how is it inferior strategically? if anything SC2 has a much higher emphasis on strategy then BW.
On October 27 2011 08:37 windsupernova wrote: Lol why do threads like this have to turn into
"My game can beat up your game"
thing?
Hahaha
Because BW people are frustrated about the west paying more attention to a inferior strategic game and SC2 people are frustrated that they have inferior strategic players playing their game. But what both don't realize is that 99.9% of the world doesn't give a flying fuck about competitive video games and that they should just be happy,that by having these kind of tournaments and events for their games in the first place,is a fucking miracle and should just be grateful for what they have right now.
On October 27 2011 08:38 L3gendary wrote: I dont if anyone's mentioned this but the size of the crowd at blizzon is a little deceiving. The crowd was there for blizzcon, not an sc2 match. I think mlg sized crowds are a more appropriate gauge.
You make it seem like people were locked into chairs and could not leave, they obviously had interest in the GSL finals if they stayed and watched.
People pay hundreds of dollars for Blizzcon tickets, flights, and hotel to go to Blizzcon which is held once a year. They're going to watch all the events regardless of whether they're fans or not. Probably 75% of Blizzcon attendees are WoW players.
There were more events running concurrent with sc2 you know, like for example, their own tourney, or panels/demo for newer games
On October 27 2011 08:37 windsupernova wrote: Lol why do threads like this have to turn into
"My game can beat up your game"
thing?
Hahaha
Because BW people are frustrated about the west paying more attention to a inferior strategic game and SC2 people are frustrated that they have inferior strategic players playing their game. But what both don't realize is that 99.9% of the world doesn't give a flying fuck about competitive video games and that they should just be happy,that by having these kind of tournaments and events for their games in the first place,is a fucking miracle and should just be grateful for what they have right now.
Really? You just going to be one of those assholes?
What asshole? I'm tired from reading these stupid arguments over and over in every fucking thread that comes up. Who cares?If you want to watch sc2 watch sc2,if you want to watch bw watch bw. Why do people feel the need to derail every thread just for the purpose to convince some guy on the INTERNET that they have the better game. And that's just what it is.A game.Just enjoy it and spare yourself these BWvsSC2 arguments because every piece of information in a thread gets burrowed under all this peace of crap.
Wait a second....Slasher's hype announcement was that they enjoyed it????? Obviously, they wouldn't have gone if they weren't interested in seeing Blizzcon.. They got offered to go by Korean Blizzard and they accepted....How is this an announcement?
On October 27 2011 08:37 windsupernova wrote: Lol why do threads like this have to turn into
"My game can beat up your game"
thing?
Hahaha
Because BW people are frustrated about the west paying more attention to a inferior strategic game and SC2 people are frustrated that they have inferior strategic players playing their game. But what both don't realize is that 99.9% of the world doesn't give a flying fuck about competitive video games and that they should just be happy,that by having these kind of tournaments and events for their games in the first place,is a fucking miracle and should just be grateful for what they have right now.
Really? You just going to be one of those assholes?
What asshole? I'm tired from reading these stupid arguments over and over in every fucking thread that comes up. Who cares?If you want to watch sc2 watch sc2,if you want to watch bw watch bw. Why do people feel the need to derail every thread just for the purpose to convince some guy on the INTERNET that they have the better game. And that's just what it is.A game.Just enjoy it and spare yourself these BWvsSC2 arguments because every piece of information in a thread gets burrowed under all this peace of crap.
On October 27 2011 08:37 windsupernova wrote: Lol why do threads like this have to turn into
"My game can beat up your game"
thing?
Hahaha
Because BW people are frustrated about the west paying more attention to a inferior strategic game and SC2 people are frustrated that they have inferior strategic players playing their game. But what both don't realize is that 99.9% of the world doesn't give a flying fuck about competitive video games and that they should just be happy,that by having these kind of tournaments and events for their games in the first place,is a fucking miracle and should just be grateful for what they have right now.
Really? You just going to be one of those assholes?
What asshole? I'm tired from reading these stupid arguments over and over in every fucking thread that comes up. Who cares?If you want to watch sc2 watch sc2,if you want to watch bw watch bw. Why do people feel the need to derail every thread just for the purpose to convince some guy on the INTERNET that they have the better game. And that's just what it is.A game.Just enjoy it and spare yourself these BWvsSC2 arguments because every piece of information in a thread gets burrowed under all this peace of crap.
Are you a troll or just fucking stupid?
Pretty lame post by you dude.. Anyway, please just let it rest
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What was the exact reason then? Can anyone confirm that the only reason they were there, was to watch e-sports?
Hmm.. I'm not too sure why Kefka is being insulted... Even though his choice of words is incorrect, I've noticed that 75% of SC2 topics, regardless of their titles, have had to have banned someone for making a BW vs SC2 argument, and people are EXTREMELY concerned with BW dieing, and players from Korea switching over... As opposed to letting it run it's course... People shouldn't be turning every thread into a flamewar, and every news article about a Korean player should not end up as a discussion about whether XXX player is switching to SC2... Bisu and everyone else had a fun time at Blizzcon, and we should be happy they enjoyed it, and not turn it into a discussion about A. Them switching to SC2 when there isn't evidence B. Insulting Sc2 Players, As well as insulting BW players C. Putting words where there is not
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