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Hello guys, There has been a thread about me recently concerning some form of 'tiehack' or maphack. I would like to point of several things.
1) Check through my ENTIRE match history before accusing me and you'll see I keep having "ties" where the game does not even begin and it gives both of us a tie, I WISH blizzard would fix the issue I have. why would I make myself have ties before the game even starts? It makes no sense.
2) Check my win streaks in my match history against masters / high master players, check our overviews and build orders and then do the same for my losses, why would I play legitmatly to get a record of 44-20 and then suddenly start using a tiehack? it makes no sense.
I wish I knew why it's been happening and why it's still happening now, as I say, check through my entire match history and you'll see big win streaks, also I've streamed live before now on justin.tv and a few people have even watched me play live, on EU, in master league. Since I play on both NA and EU however when I stream I lag pretty badly as I get a big army.
You have provided no 'proof' that I even maphack or tiehack, I sometimes in my games proxy my building sometimes it pays off other time it gives me instant losses because I proxy in the WRONG place, you're using confirmation bias here, you're only confirming the case where I did it successful, what about instances where I fail to proxy the correct location?
Regarding me being a member of Mixed Fruit, Gyroscope is full of crap and is going to get his ass handed to him when I've spoken to the other founder of mixed fruit, MFCeon / Ceonsamea as Ceonsamea WILL BE having harsh words with gyroscope for his pathetic message he said in the other thread.
Feel free to add me on battle.net -
Zelthcon.648
I will play a match and you can even STREAM the game live if you wish. I have games of me on youtube that were also casted if you wish to see them.
On October 06 2011 11:58 caradoc wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/d4D4F.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/x8eJm.jpg) nail in coffin. goodbye sir.
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Hmm if its a bug need to get attention from Blizzard, if its a maphack it needs Blizzard attention. Either way, it will get fixed eventually.
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I think your sig sums you up pretty well 
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You sir, fail.
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 06 2011 06:15 Zelthcon wrote:
Hello guys, There has been a thread about me recently concerning some form of 'tiehack' or maphack. I would like to point of several things.
1) Check through my ENTIRE match history before accusing me and you'll see I keep having "ties" where the game does not even begin and it gives both of us a tie, I WISH blizzard would fix the issue I have. why would I make myself have ties before the game even starts? It makes no sense.
2) Check my win streaks in my match history against masters / high master players, check our overviews and build orders and then do the same for my losses, why would I play legitmatly to get a record of 44-20 and then suddenly start using a tiehack? it makes no sense.
I wish I knew why it's been happening and why it's still happening now, as I say, check through my entire match history and you'll see big win streaks, also I've streamed live before now on justin.tv and a few people have even watched me play live, on EU, in master league. Since I play on both NA and EU however when I stream I lag pretty badly as I get a big army.
You have provided no 'proof' that I even maphack or tiehack, I sometimes in my games proxy my building sometimes it pays off other time it gives me instant losses because I proxy in the WRONG place, you're using confirmation bias here, you're only confirming the case where I did it successful, what about instances where I fail to proxy the correct location?
Regarding me being a member of Mixed Fruit, Gyroscope is full of crap and is going to get his ass handed to him when I've spoken to the other founder of mixed fruit, MFCeon / Ceonsamea as Ceonsamea WILL BE having harsh words with gyroscope for his pathetic message he said in the other thread.
Feel free to add me on battle.net -
Zelthcon.648
I will play a match and you can even STREAM the game live if you wish. I have games of me on youtube that were also casted if you wish to see them.
If all you did was simply "Wish" they would fix the issue rather than reporting, making a thread, or bringing public attention to it then that's exploiting an obvious error with the game, which is just as bad.
In most cases you are innocent until proven guilty as you've said, but nothing really adds up in your favor with the evidence we've been provided.
All of the old map hackers that have been debated upon could have hacked and we'll never know in some cases, but just because they streamed their gameplay doesn't make them automatically innocent.
That being said, if you are actually experience problems you should be talking to blizzard, not TL, that's pretty much all I have to say :/
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On October 06 2011 06:20 Initiative wrote:I think your sig sums you up pretty well
Who are you to judge someone?
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This almost certainly isn't worth a thread, but...
I'd like to note the words "I'm innocent" or "I didn't hack" are conspicuously absent from this post.
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so, if I understand well, you are the ONLY guy on the whole server to whom this phenomenon is happening? really? did you try to tell blizz or something? (not trying to be a douche here btw, just asking).
And is insulting your team chief really a good thing? the more I read, the more you do seem to fit the description he gave of you...
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Well thankfully this isn't of concern anymore: what really scares me is, he might be on this forum, reading this post and pretending to be horrified at someone hacking
Anywho, battlenet can be weird sometimes. I remember in the original I could DC and it would be impossible to drop me, and everyone thought I was a hacker  (
Best of luck, and thanks for clearing everything up! ^^
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On October 06 2011 06:26 Omnipresent wrote:
This almost certainly isn't worth a thread, but...
I'd like to note the words "I'm innocent" or "I didn't hack" are conspicuously absent from this post.
Because it would make no difference to the community if I added them words into my post, if I did say "im innocent" or "i didnt hack" people would just throw insults at me saying "yeah you would say that".
Would also like to note, other people IN THE OTHER THREAD ABOUT ME have admitted this bug happening to them in the past, go read through all 9 pages and you'll see several people saying it's a bug and it's happend to them months and months ago.
Again check both my NA and EU accounts, both accounts have "ties" on them, does that mean I used a hack which instantly tied the game before it even loaded? No, it's a bug that's happend to me on both accounts, feel free to confirm it yourself.
Zelthcon.648
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I would also like to add that my SC2 plays up alot aswell, if someone invites me to a game and I accept it alot of the time I get interface lag and I never get invited to the game. Same with party invites and games being hosted and also when i try hosting my own games, sometimes it appears to be loading then puts me back onto the screen where i select a map to host.
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"Regarding me being a member of Mixed Fruit, Gyroscope is full of crap and is going to get his ass handed to him when I've spoken to the other founder of mixed fruit, MFCeon / Ceonsamea as Ceonsamea WILL BE having harsh words with gyroscope for his pathetic message he said in the other thread."
Well, what part of Gyroscope is full of crap? You are a member of Mixed Fruit last I heard, and from what I've seen in the channel, you've been quite aggressive a few times (not to be of course). I still don't see though how exactly Gyroscope is going to recieve harsh words. The two hardly take action without the other's consent, and if he didn't in this case, you're not in any power to enforce Ceon to do such a thing as to consult Gyroscope and give him harsh words. And I don't get how it was pathetic, he was just trying to clear his community's name which had gained a bad title for some reason in the midst of the thread.
Regardless, good to see it is a bug as you claim, although I'm not too sure. That proxy gate thing cheese is rather suspicious, but w/e, I think I remember that tie bug happening.
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I am not writing about whether he does or does not hack. Whether such a "tie-hack exists" is beyond what I can clearly say at this point.
What I can say though, is after playing over five thousand ladder games since release I have received ties for winning in maybe ten games. Not good odds, but they have happened to me as well.
This is not including the periods when the ladders gets bugged out for all of bnet.
I dunno though, your bad manner and particular phrases you employ prior to tying a game lead me to believe two things about your character. You would do whatever you want to win. You know before the game ends that it will be a tie.
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On October 06 2011 06:26 Omnipresent wrote:
This almost certainly isn't worth a thread, but...
I'd like to note the words "I'm innocent" or "I didn't hack" are conspicuously absent from this post.
No you're not a lawyer, no you're not clever. Take him up on his 1v1 if you feel like being an unbelieving douche.
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You come off super whiny in this post. I don't think you're going to get the reaction you intended here.
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I'm sorry, but nothing you said convinced me of your not hacking. What I do know is this:
Your attitude ingame and in this post does nothing to help you, and just makes me and probably many people think that you are not sincere.
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Regarding me being a member of Mixed Fruit, Gyroscope is full of crap and is going to get his ass handed to him when I've spoken to the other founder of mixed fruit, MFCeon / Ceonsamea as Ceonsamea WILL BE having harsh words with gyroscope for his pathetic message he said in the other thread.
Harsh chastisement about to happen over the internet...
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Why would it affect a single individual? I will not believe this claim until I hear a statement from a Blizzard representative or Excalibur, I believe who is a MVP on their forums or whatever... At the same time, however, I'm not saying you are guilty. At the current moment, however, it leans towards that. I will wait and see what evidence comes up that says otherwise.
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I'm with you man. Some kids here jump on the "omg he's a hacker" bandwagon way too easily with so litle "evidence". A single game where someone gets lucky and proxy gates the right location of builds detection, or moves his army is far from evidence for hacking. Sometimes people get lucky, sometimes shit happens.
As for the ties, i would think its more probably for it to be a bug, its not the first time strange shit has happened in bnet 2.0.
People should really try a bit harder before calling someone a hacker.
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