EPTWhat do you think? I feel it is just another example of looking for reasons to police the internet and break peoples first amendment rights. i know looks of good friends on reddit and have I demand Cooper apologize!
Anderson Cooper Accuses Reddit Of Spreading Child
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thepantysoaker
United States54 Posts
What do you think? I feel it is just another example of looking for reasons to police the internet and break peoples first amendment rights. i know looks of good friends on reddit and have I demand Cooper apologize! | ||
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
Wasn't there a TL thread about the inappropriate images on Reddit? Some people found many images to be close to child porn, if I recall correctly - and there were a lot of people really unhappy about it. It could all be media hype but Maybe Mr. Cooper isn't too far off the mark, he's not the only one who has taken issue with it. | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
I visited /r/starcraft just after getting around within TL. Overall great site | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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zakmaa
Canada525 Posts
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TadH
Canada1846 Posts
Fuck Anderson Cooper. | ||
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NathanSC
United States620 Posts
I'm not watching a video if you don't give me a description of what it includes and why I should watch it. Please add content to the OP. | ||
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TadH
Canada1846 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:03 zakmaa wrote: Jailbait is pretty fucked up, in my opinion. I think that he should on another episode show that Reddit isn't only about Jailbait and that it has many other sub forums to it, but I do think that this is merited as Reddit shouldn't be supporting this. No one should. Provocative pictures of teen girls shouldn't be looked upon by adults in my opinion. I've seen the jailbait sub reddit and most of the pics are self shots, the girls taking pics of themselves and posting them online. Who gives a shit? They obviously want the attention. And reddit serves that purpose. AFAIK the legal age of consent in Canada is 14 (correct me if I'm wrong) so to me, seeing a picture of a 14 year old girl with her ass in the air in a bikini does nothing for me. I think these girls are old enough to know what they're doing and know what emotions or reactions they're trying to get out of people. And for the most part it works. | ||
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TadH
Canada1846 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:04 NathanSC wrote: Why so many terrible threads? I'm not watching a video if you don't give me a description of what it includes and why I should watch it. Please add content to the OP. Take a step back, stop back seat moderating and contribute to the OP next time. Then, maybe you wouldn't be helping to turn it into a shitty thread. | ||
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naggerNZ
New Zealand708 Posts
Trying to act all offended on behalf of Reddit users over something that is most likely true is just pathetic. Demanding an apology is even worse. | ||
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
Oh and yeah, the age of consent in Canada is 14. It's low in a lot of countries, the USA laws are just archaic as fuck on age of majority issues. Nobody really thinks much about sleeping with a girl under 18 here provided the age difference isn't huge. Now, that's not to say we go around "hunting for little girls", but we are just mammals and this is what mammals do -- the girls themselves included. The whole idea that sex doesn't exist until you turn 18 is retarded. edit: oh great, post 500 about underage girls. Oh well. | ||
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necrOtix
81 Posts
But do you fucking masturbate to underage girls at the beach? I have no sympathy in this regard. Any attempts to justify it in that way are just stupid. I even bet that stuff past the point of "what you see at the beach" like nudity or softcore porn get's posted which is just sick. You just can't justify it when it's in the "NSFW" section where people to go FAP. It just simple promotes sexual attraction of underage girls, which isn't healthy and should indeed be looked down upon. I hope that subreddit get's removed. | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:08 TadH wrote: I've seen the jailbait sub reddit and most of the pics are self shots, the girls taking pics of themselves and posting them online. Who gives a shit? They obviously want the attention. And reddit serves that purpose. AFAIK the legal age of consent in Canada is 14 (correct me if I'm wrong) so to me, seeing a picture of a 14 year old girl with her ass in the air in a bikini does nothing for me. I think these girls are old enough to know what they're doing and know what emotions or reactions they're trying to get out of people. And for the most part it works. I agree with this post. Fuck, right now manila has problems with 12 to 16 year old gangbangers who either beat up or steal stuff from people twice their age. Seems like the organized crime is exploiting under age teens. not to derail, I'm against pedo shit, but if it's consensual well whatever. It's their problem not mine.. | ||
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TadH
Canada1846 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:17 necrOtix wrote: I understand both points of view, lots of people in that section of reddit defend themselves say they aren't seeing anything worse than girls at the beach But do you fucking masturbate to underage girls at the beach? I have no sympathy in this regard. Any attempts to justify it in that way are just stupid. I even bet that stuff past the point of "what you see at the beach" like nudity or softcore porn get's posted which is just sick. You just can't justify it when it's in the "NSFW" section where people to go FAP. It just simple promotes sexual attraction of underage girls, which isn't healthy and should indeed be looked down upon. I hope that subreddit get's removed. I agree with you. However, these girls are sexualizing themselves and some people just share it. There is nothing wrong with that, per se. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On September 30 2011 13:58 thepantysoaker wrote: I used to have respect Anderson Cooper but this made me lose it all. He is just trying to make something out of nothing. This video shows Anderson Cooper trying to fear monger people into thinking that reddit is just a place where pedophiles go to look at pictures of child porn. This is borderline slander if you ask me. Watch for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GimbrACh-Yw&feature=player_embedded#! What do you think? I feel it is just another example of looking for reasons to police the internet and break peoples first amendment rights. i know looks of good friends on reddit and have I demand Cooper apologize! Ya I saw it on TV. Was kinda surprised he was offended so much seeing as nothing is illegal. Everyone is fully clothed and it's mostly self pics the girls took. Anyway I'd like to see his reaction to what 4chan does. | ||
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Alay
United States660 Posts
As long as there's no abuse (readas: CP) who care? A lot of teenagers take pictures of themselves in... less than formal wear, and post it on the internet. If someone "faps" to a photo then that's their thing lol. I highly doubt a moderated site like Reddit would allow any CP to stay up for any length of time, and I'm sure they track IPs and whatnot in those cases. | ||
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ene13
50 Posts
pfff underage? I remember in grade 7 girls were grown as fuck. Some had breasts bigger than my moms. everyday I would get a boner so big I would have to jerk off in a sock in the boys washroom just to relieve the tension. I think the optimal age for sex/marriage is 14. They'll never be more attractive anyways... God bless Canada. | ||
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Tippecanoe
United States342 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:17 necrOtix wrote: I understand both points of view, lots of people in that section of reddit defend themselves say they aren't seeing anything worse than girls at the beach But do you fucking masturbate to underage girls at the beach? I have no sympathy in this regard. Any attempts to justify it in that way are just stupid. I even bet that stuff past the point of "what you see at the beach" like nudity or softcore porn get's posted which is just sick. You just can't justify it when it's in the "NSFW" section where people to go FAP. It just simple promotes sexual attraction of underage girls, which isn't healthy and should indeed be looked down upon. I hope that subreddit get's removed. Personally i don't find child pornography attractive at all or even jailbait, but your point of view is subjective. Who is to say that they are sick just because that is how you were raised knowing that to you this kind of stuff is sick. Some countries age of consent is 14 and in more 'developed' countries like India there are arranged marriages at ages as low as 12. Like i said i don't find child porn or jailbait attractive at all, but people are people no point in looking down on them especially when they are not hurting anybody. inb4 you are an insensitive human being and you should rot in hell. | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
Children should be protected, absolutely. Teenagers aren't children. In years past, even in north america, you were a man at 15 and you went to war. Young women were wed at similar ages - usually after their first period. A few select countries around the world decided at some point to legally define being an adult at age 18, and then somehow sexual relations became restricted to only adults. Now, I respect everybody's point of view but sexual desire for another human who has completed puberty is not sick. It's instinct. The only way it's wrong is if someone forces the act on another, and I think we can all agree that it doesn't matter what age you are if that happens. | ||
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Le BucheRON
Canada619 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
That said if you make a dedicated direction on a website to post pictures of very young girls you can pretty much expect public backlash. And whilst it's not pedophile levels i do think it's kind of creepy. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
I personally feel like as long as such material is not illegal (the post itself) and people dont gain direct access to it (they are forced to search specifically for it, its not on the homepage or something) then it is okay. I see how people can see it differently though. | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:32 darkscream wrote: Honestly, some of the puritans in this thread... Nature picks a time for people to be interested in sex. That time is puberty -- You get there and it suddenly becomes reality for you. This whole idea of some magic line you cross at age 18 (or any age) is a real problem.. the government has no place in regulating the mating behaviours of people. Children should be protected, absolutely. Teenagers aren't children. In years past, even in north america, you were a man at 15 and you went to war. Young women were wed at similar ages - usually after their first period. A few select countries around the world decided at some point to legally define being an adult at age 18, and then somehow sexual relations became restricted to only adults. Now, I respect everybody's point of view but sexual desire for another human who has completed puberty is not sick. It's instinct. The only way it's wrong is if someone forces the act on another, and I think we can all agree that it doesn't matter what age you are if that happens. so you think people who are fresh out of puberty should have kids (since thats what is having sex for, naturally speaking of course but you opened the door for nature imo) are you deluded or wat | ||
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Nazarid
United States445 Posts
All in all Anderson Coopers' agenda is obvious and well warranted, reddit should not condone such pictures at all and the mods of these threads should be intelligent enough to remove threads that contain such content...Facebook and myspace do it all the time why can't reddit? | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
This is entirely new and unheard of! Where was all the outrage at these guys calling every tea party member a racist and violent? How about the slandering of news media they dont' like? Oh or about reporters they disagree with? Or the complete sweeping under the rug of stories that could paint the people they like in a bad light? Welcome to how the media works. It's biased, subjective to what you believe in and more then likely is doing it to scare some and make themselves look better. They are going after Reddit because it's the new. They don't like the idea of people taking their viewers or the fact that a majority of Reddit reports on news faster then they do. Which proves just how lackluster a good portion of the traditional media is. He's trying to drag Reddit through the mud simply to make his job look less worthless because most folks are realizing that political pundits are worthless. For the record. I don't use reddit. | ||
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branflakes14
2082 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:46 ayaz2810 wrote: So Reddit is basically a super gay version of 4chan. Why is no one campaigning to get that shit shut down? Ah.... media. So stupid. 4chan and its various offspring have been overloaded with gore, kiddy porn, and other very questionable shit for upwards of 7-8 years. Maybe that should be a priority? Derp. 4chan doesn't endorse its content, it's just an anonymous forum with topics. If someone made a new account on TL and posted child porn in a thread would you link that image with TL, or just call that specific user a nutjob? | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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strikerz200
58 Posts
but this is quite good. P.S - There are so many hot girls here.. wat the f... | ||
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Nazarid
United States445 Posts
On September 30 2011 15:01 EtherealDeath wrote: Anderson Cooper didn't seem so outrageous in that segment. That child porn prosecutor though, she sounds like a fact-twisting bitch. Sorry to use such language, but she tries to twist words and facts to benefit her side while trying to sound sweet at the same time. Pisses me off so much. Dude that's her job... shes a prosecutor for a court of law.... yes she will twist every word and movement into something that makes her case stronger that's what they do. | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
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Tippecanoe
United States342 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:46 ayaz2810 wrote: So Reddit is basically a super gay version of 4chan. Why is no one campaigning to get that shit shut down? Ah.... media. So stupid. 4chan and its various offspring have been overloaded with gore, kiddy porn, and other very questionable shit for upwards of 7-8 years. Maybe that should be a priority? Derp. Gore isn't illegal and you get IP banned from 4chan for having Child Pron. Funny how you instantly call out 4chan when you know nothing about the website. I think the slowest they banned somebody for attempting to spread child porn is like 4 minutes? Pretty good for the biggest forum. | ||
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iLikeRain
Denmark504 Posts
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
Blatant ignorance on his part, really. On September 30 2011 15:08 Tippecanoe wrote: Gore isn't illegal and you get IP banned from 4chan for having Child Pron. Funny how you instantly call out 4chan when you know nothing about the website. I think the slowest they banned somebody for attempting to spread child porn is like 4 minutes? Pretty good for the biggest forum. CP has been up for more than 4 minutes in my experience. Whenever I see it I instantly report it and make sure that it gets taken down. There was once a thread that went on for well over 10-15 minutes and I kept on reporting every picture. | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
On September 30 2011 14:41 askTeivospy wrote: so you think people who are fresh out of puberty should have kids (since thats what is having sex for, naturally speaking of course but you opened the door for nature imo) are you deluded or wat Ad hominem, nice. Don't just take the word "nature" and invent some dumbass worst-case-scenario argument. No, I think people who are fresh out of puberty should be able to make their own choices, suffer consequences and learn from them. This includes taking pictures of themselves and posting them online. What I don't believe in though, is third parties outside the family trying to manage what they do, how they do it, or who can observe it. Anderson Cooper's angle is basically, "Shouldn't we regulate this?" and the answer is most certainly no. However, he is an expert media manipulator, so he can take something like "internet regulation" and attach it to "pedophilia and child porn", creating a straw man in support of his argument for regulation. And, most people watching televised news won't take the time to actually find out what the website is for themselves.... an attribute televised news frequently exploits. In fact, nobody on /r/jailbait is being hurt, being abused and forced to take these pictures, and they are not being harmed by any observers of these pictures either REGARDLESS of what someone's intent is for looking at them. Those pictures have no identity, no personal information, and for some (not all) of them you can't even tell they were "under 18".. because nature distinguishes for you what is an adult and what is not, you can tell by your own personal reaction to the pictures which ones are ripe and which ones are too young for your tastes. Besides, there's nothing on /r/jailbait that you wouldn't see in a goddamned magazine for teens. Advertisers sell them sex appeal all day and all night and they buy it right up. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On September 30 2011 15:19 iLikeRain wrote: I had no idea that subforum existed a just went to see exactly what it was. It's very messed up. There's a clear indication that people upload pictures of minors, although dressed, purely for their own sick desires. It's disgusting Not really. There's a big difference between a minor and a child. | ||
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Vul
United States685 Posts
To me that's not fear mongering. It's legit to say that having a dedicated subforum for posting underage pictures of girls is creepy. Also he DID, 100% point out that this was only a subforum of an extremely popular site. The OP is simply inaccurate in its claim that AC unfairly characterized Reddit. No, I think people who are fresh out of puberty should be able to make their own choices, suffer consequences and learn from them. This includes taking pictures of themselves and posting them online. This sounds all fine and good, but you need to take into account that you wouldn't buy into this if you had kids and that in the U.S. people under the ages of 18 are not considered adults, regardless of whether you think this is right or fair. | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
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Osaka27140 Posts
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