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http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3123318915?page=1
DMsev
After asking a few questions, I was informed that no support for paid name changes or clantag support is currently in the works. Contrary to the hopeful message in our Battle.net account profiles, it is not coming soon. I was also met with the revelation that this is because there are not enough people expressing a desire to make this happen. Finally, I was told that the World of Warcraft paid name change support came about from the community asking for it and showing a noticeable desire to have it done, and was given the suggestion to make a thread about it specifically in the Multiplayer and ESports forum, and get people to give their opinion on it.
Basically, this one dude sent a support ticket to blizzard asking for Name change and blizzard explained that the feature wasn't part of WoW before but because enough people showed interest, the WoW community made it happen.
Now, this guy didn't add any screenshot of his support ticket or didn't quote the customer service employee who replied to him, I believe it's still worth a shot.
Basically, the bnet thread is a way to show blizzard we want clan feature and paid name change. This was posted on reddit but hopefully with teamliquid behind this, we can make it happen 
Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/kclfr/make_a_difference_in_bnet_name_change_support/
Edit: The OP clarified his story in a post on page 5
DMsev
also for the record, the conversation was entirely over the phone. i apologize that i didn't think to record it. i'll add this message to the OP.
My opinion: A lot of people believe this should be free and that blizzard is "milking" the cow. Imagine if this feature would be free and unlimited ? The internet is already filled with assholes and stream cheaters imagine if they could change character code/portrait/name every day ?
A long time ago I thought blizzard was greedy but they are doing us a favor by not giving every dick on battle.net a chance to spam anonymously
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Obviously this would be a good thing, hope people support this.
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what a backwards ass company
After asking a few questions, I was informed that no support for paid name changes or clantag support is currently in the works.
hahahahahahahahahh
Yes blizzard we must show a huge sign of support for paying money to change names.
wtf? bnet 2.0 is already a joke, they should actually be working on making players happy not demanding online petitions to make money. Get to work on a "starcraft TV" a decent bnet 2.0 etc.
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yeah this should have been available day 1.
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I support this but what a backwards ass company
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I don't care about name changes as much as being able to have a 2nd/3rd profile so I can off-race against people at my skill level.
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Why should we have to pay for a name change? Why not let us change our name whenever we want, or even just let us change it at the end of each season. We shouldn't have to pay for name changes when there is so little effort that it takes to do.
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On September 12 2011 12:28 dacthehork wrote:
what a backwards ass company
Yes blizzard we must show a huge sign of support for paying money to change names.
wtf? bnet 2.0 is already a joke, they should actually be working on making players happy not demanding online petitions to make money.
you mean backwards ass community. there's a lot of people in the community that wholeheartedly support the "pay to name change" feature. its really just a cash cow.
here's how it will go down. Blizzard sees a cash cow ready to be farmed, but doesn't make it or put it out for free, or for cost. This drives up huge demand for the thing, this establishing a customer base before the product even exists. Enough people ask for it, they eventaully start "bargaining with the devil" for it, usually by saying "Blizz pls do this, we'll even pay in order to be able to do this". Blizzard "finally gives into the pressure", and releases it "grudgingly" for a "modest" fee.
marketing/PR 101/. herp.
The instructional programming code to make name salready exists. The programming code to change names merely has tobe a serch and replace, such as:
Find
CharacternameCode
Replace As
NewCharacterinput
Done
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It takes the work of a moment, can be done by a single programmer in about 10 minutes, and they won't institute it. Hmmm wonder why?
$$$$$$$$$$$$
Follow the money people.
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Not sure how they expect us to show an interest when they told us it's on its way since the begining. If everyone had known they weren't in the least bit interested in implementing it, they would have gotten a lot more requests for it. So, correct me if I'm mistaken, but is this basically an invitation to spam the shit out of them with requests for name change?
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I don't want a paid name change.
I want the ability to change my name whenever I want, to have a chat system that's not retarded, to watch replays with my friends, to have clan support, to be able to play with people on other servers if I want to without paying $60 again, and for LAN features to be added into the game.
But actually supporting a game is a thing of the past I'm sure
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On September 12 2011 12:35 Catroa wrote:
Why should we have to pay for a name change? Why not let us change our name whenever we want, or even just let us change it at the end of each season. We shouldn't have to pay for name changes when there is so little effort that it takes to do.
how could we track cheaters or assholes if they keep changing name and codes and portraits ?
Blizzard is doing it right, the internet is already filled with assholes, if they can abuse anonymity(is that a word lol ?) we are doomed.
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On September 12 2011 12:37 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:35 Catroa wrote:
Why should we have to pay for a name change? Why not let us change our name whenever we want, or even just let us change it at the end of each season. We shouldn't have to pay for name changes when there is so little effort that it takes to do. how could we track cheaters or assholes if they keep changing name and codes and portraits ? Blizzard is doing it right, the internet is already filled with assholes, if they can abuse anonymity(is that a word lol ?) we are doomed.
Through your CD-Key and your activation on that battle.net account platform thingy.
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Steam does it pretty well with STEAM ID
bnet 2.0 has a long way to go though before catching up to bnet 1.0, so maybe in 2020 it will catch up to steam
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I won't really be needing this unless I join a clan that requires clan tags and whatnot. Even then, it should be like Call of duty or Halo in which you can add a clan tag easily in front of your gamertag at no cost.
They should of had this since day 1 along with chat channels, LAN, and cross region play.
Again, WHAT A BACKWARDS ASS COMPANY.
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should we TL.net provide awesum community spam for paid name change? I've been very very impatient to when this will be implemented.. -_-
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To everyone whining that name changes should be free
> Imagine if this feature would be free and unlimited ? The internet is already filled with assholes and stream cheaters imagine if they could change character code/portrait/name every day ?
Seriously guys?
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Namechange can be charged, I understand the idea of not wanting a ton of people to all switch to the same name to troll a player/stream/tournament. However to supplement that I think there should be a separate clan tag space that can be freely changed and edited. Best of both worlds?
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'if' - really? Rob Pardo brushed off the cries for LAN, as if he thought we were joking. Why would this be any different?
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if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard?
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On September 12 2011 12:50 benjammin wrote:
if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard?
valve doesnt have to deal with stream cheaters
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On September 12 2011 12:37 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:35 Catroa wrote:
Why should we have to pay for a name change? Why not let us change our name whenever we want, or even just let us change it at the end of each season. We shouldn't have to pay for name changes when there is so little effort that it takes to do. how could we track cheaters or assholes if they keep changing name and codes and portraits ? Blizzard is doing it right, the internet is already filled with assholes, if they can abuse anonymity(is that a word lol ?) we are doomed.
I disagree with this completely. There are ways for them to associate the blocking of someone with a unique, hidden variable and it will keep them blocked. People will continue to find ways to be assholes, regardless. Why ruin it for everyone else? It's completely nonsensical to PAY for a fucking name change.
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Seriously? I thought this has been cried for and desired for an insanely long time. I can't believe that they've never noticed people wanting it.
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Should cost a few dollars. Separate the prepubescent trolls from the responsible players - for the most part.
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Free money for Blizzard and they act like they don't even want to do it. This is a simple change, it really is. I just really don't understand why Blizz doesn't want this extra cash.
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On September 12 2011 12:50 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:50 benjammin wrote:
if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard? valve doesnt have to deal with stream cheaters
don't stream if you care that much about stream cheaters
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$5 per name change seems fair, or/and you can add a limit e.g. 1 per month?
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I don't understand why people would pay money to change their name in a video game.
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So we are taking the word from a Q&A staff member over the phone? They do not have all of the information, and it was also stated by Dustin Browder in one of his many interviews that clan support will be added in the future. I take the lead designers word over a Q&A staff member.
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On September 12 2011 12:50 benjammin wrote:
if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard?
rhetorical, Valve is incredible.
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EDIT: misread.
I'm surprised that they aren't tuned in to the fact that a LOT of people want this.
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ATTENTION BLIZZARD:
we are going to Pay u to change our names, something that a program can do in less than 30 sec. PAY U!
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On September 12 2011 12:50 benjammin wrote:
if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard?
All names on Steam are cosmetic. Valve definitely knows how to listen to the community.
Somebody get a petition and hand it to Bobby Kotick.
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On September 12 2011 12:46 DoNotDisturb wrote:
To everyone whining that name changes should be free
> Imagine if this feature would be free and unlimited ? The internet is already filled with assholes and stream cheaters imagine if they could change character code/portrait/name every day ?
Seriously guys?
I don't have to imagine, I just have to go play a game on the steam platform (pretty much everything except blizz games). Yes it can be abused. Back in the day I was playing MW2 with some mates. We were good enough to pub stomp and people used to always change their name to our clan tag and then write racist and other generic bm in the chat.
Blizz should have clan support in bnet .02 pretty much the same way BF2 does it. Hell maybe they could even be innovative and come up with some additional cool clan features. Meanwhile we have facebook integration and everyone is out there screaming for blizz to take their money for paid name change. So confusing.
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Why not make it free but only allow active players to change names once per season? Seems somewhat tough to abuse to me.
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This is total bullshit, we already pay full price for a game + 2 expansions, and they want to charge extra to change your name? I hardly think this is a service that would be expensive, time consuming or even difficult to provide. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if there were 3rd parties that would be willing to do this for free, if Blizzard would allow it. Blizzard are practically thieves with these business tactics imo.
Forgot to mention Battlenet in starcraft so far is a horribly outdated, restrictive and the latency problems with blizzard servers are just plain frustrating. It's a shame that the company that originally created starcraft and thus inherited the rights turned into the "Blizzard" we have today.
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On September 12 2011 12:32 red4ce wrote:
I don't care about name changes as much as being able to have a 2nd/3rd profile so I can off-race against people at my skill level.
100% this. Playing a single race gets fucking boring, and i doubt most people can offrace at the same level as their main (BOs and Macro is different, micro is similar). This is the worst feature about bnet20 i think. I got bored in 1v1 so started randoming and won something like 90% when i was P, 50% as Z, 10% as T. Maybe doing something like sub-accounts under the same game registration would help better match making when people off race.
In Wc3 and BW you could just make a separate account to fuck around on, why would they overlook this.
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Can we watch replays with our friends? I mean.. seriously. This is one of the most useful functions of the original bnet and we can't use it for bnet 2.0... doesn't make any sense.
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On September 12 2011 12:46 DoNotDisturb wrote:
To everyone whining that name changes should be free
> Imagine if this feature would be free and unlimited ? The internet is already filled with assholes and stream cheaters imagine if they could change character code/portrait/name every day ?
Seriously guys?
by setting up a "pay to grief" system as you're stating, you're in effect legitimizing all people's claims that "they can be assholes and just buy their way out of it".
Seriously? is that the kind of way you think society should be? or are you just dumb?
What you may not have realized is that people already do this "paid name change" on their own, via selling their SC2 account/CD and buying a new one.
GMs and their friends have done it with smurf accounts that get revealed. You really think "pro" griefers and internet assholes dont do this as well? Some simply buy new CDs without even selling their old ones.
So saying that it should be a paid name change makes as much sense as shitting on the carpet.
On September 12 2011 12:52 a176 wrote:
I don't understand why people would pay money to change their name in a video game.
exactly.
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On September 12 2011 12:58 Kid-Fox wrote:
Why not make it free but only allow active players to change names once per season? Seems somewhat tough to abuse to me.
Because that would make too much sense, and that can't happen with Bnet 2.0
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Ahh, hopefully that thread gets really popular on b.net forums... I really hope they add it.. =_=
but knowing blizzard it'll take a long long time even though the code is only a few lines probably (considering they've coded a similar feature on WoW)
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On September 12 2011 12:50 benjammin wrote:
if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard?
It's different dude, WoW/SC2 names are different to TF2/COD names.
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On September 12 2011 12:50 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:50 benjammin wrote:
if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard? valve doesnt have to deal with stream cheaters
Its not against the rules to stream cheat on starcraft either. not against BLizzard rules that is. And honestly, does someone force you to stream? Does a stream of your play automatically go out live when you boot up sc2 for the first time? Im having trouble understanding how this can be a valid coherent argument against name changes.
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They should make an community AMA to answer all these questions; it can't ne true that we have a b.net 0.2, no free name change and can't watch replays together....
there is an endless list of things to implement.
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On September 12 2011 13:02 ReaperX wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:50 benjammin wrote:
if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard? It's different dude, WoW/SC2 names are different to TF2/COD names.
why is it different? it seems like even a clan tag would be trivial to add
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On September 12 2011 13:02 ReaperX wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:50 benjammin wrote:
if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard? It's different dude, WoW/SC2 names are different to TF2/COD names.
I don't really see why it would be impossible. In steam you have you username which you give to your friends to add you to their friends list, ie your Real ID email address. In steam you can freely change your displayed name however many times you want for free, why can't blizzard add this?
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Blizzard could very easily deal with stream cheaters if they were competent/wanted to.
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On September 12 2011 13:00 cHaNg-sTa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:46 DoNotDisturb wrote:
To everyone whining that name changes should be free
> Imagine if this feature would be free and unlimited ? The internet is already filled with assholes and stream cheaters imagine if they could change character code/portrait/name every day ?
Seriously guys? by setting up a "pay to grief" system as you're stating, you're in effect legitimizing all people's claims that "they can be assholes and just buy their way out of it". Seriously? is that the kind of way you think society should be? or are you just dumb? What you may not have realized is that people already do this "paid name change" on their own, via selling their SC2 account/CD and buying a new one. GMs and their friends have done it with smurf accounts that get revealed. You really think "pro" griefers and internet assholes dont do this as well? Some simply buy new CDs without even selling their old ones. So saying that it should be a paid name change makes as much sense as shitting on the carpet. Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:52 a176 wrote:
I don't understand why people would pay money to change their name in a video game. exactly.
This is truie too. there's more political and philosophical issues behind this behavior and whether it is allowed or not.
Everything that is human behavior is serious business, even in pleasure or entertainment venues. Because that behavior corrupts or changes behavior in other venues of life.
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On September 12 2011 13:04 Truedot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:50 desrow wrote:On September 12 2011 12:50 benjammin wrote:
if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard? valve doesnt have to deal with stream cheaters Its not against the rules to stream cheat on starcraft either. not against BLizzard rules that is. And honestly, does someone force you to stream? Does a stream of your play automatically go out live when you boot up sc2 for the first time? Im having trouble understanding how this can be a valid coherent argument against name changes.
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people like destiny who people abuse and stream cheat against, at least since people cant have free name change, destiny can recognize those people and black screen his stream or put his 2nd monitor
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Bnet 2.0 sucks so bad..its actually ridiculous they are planning to release hots before fixing it. No name changes, the custom gui sucks with no new popular maps ever having a chance, and then we can't even get real chat rooms instead we get this small window where you have a group... I mean really? How hard can it possible to have a full screen chat room like there was before. I'm not going to support a paid name change just because I believe this should be a free functionality
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On September 12 2011 13:00 Truedot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:46 DoNotDisturb wrote:
To everyone whining that name changes should be free
> Imagine if this feature would be free and unlimited ? The internet is already filled with assholes and stream cheaters imagine if they could change character code/portrait/name every day ?
Seriously guys? by setting up a "pay to grief" system as you're stating, you're in effect legitimizing all people's claims that "they can be assholes and just buy their way out of it". Seriously? is that the kind of way you think society should be? or are you just dumb? What you may not have realized is that people already do this "paid name change" on their own, via selling their SC2 account/CD and buying a new one. GMs and their friends have done it with smurf accounts that get revealed. You really think "pro" griefers and internet assholes dont do this as well? Some simply buy new CDs without even selling their old ones. So saying that it should be a paid name change makes as much sense as shitting on the carpet. Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:52 a176 wrote:
I don't understand why people would pay money to change their name in a video game. exactly.
Quick to jump to personal insults, aren't you?
I'm more amused that people are thinking that Blizzard is actually willing to give free name changes.
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guess stop hating on blizzard. I know that battle.net 2.0 has some missing features but blizzard is doing their best. Without blizzard there wouldn't even be this awesome game Starcraft 2 so I think we should give them a break
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On September 12 2011 13:06 MarKeD wrote:
Blizzard could very easily deal with stream cheaters if they were competent/wanted to.
Would it really be that easy? I mean you need info about whether one client is streaming and whether the other client is accessing that specific stream. I'm not sure that is something the SC2 client can handle easily...
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It's silly that Blizzard won't implement something because we aren't clamouring for it... We're not clamouring for it because you said, you were working on it and we're patient like that (okay, only sometimes patient.)
But names changes, clan support, and shared replays are some pretty basic gaps in Battlenet 2.0 that make it more 0.5 then anything else.
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the point about not having free name change reducing spam / stream cheating etc. is certainly a valid point . but this problem only exists because we are only allowed to make one "id" (if you will) for one sc2 account and not as many as you want (like you could in wc3 or bw)
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On September 12 2011 13:11 lotrscwow wrote:
guess stop hating on blizzard. I know that battle.net 2.0 has some missing features but blizzard is doing their best. Without blizzard there wouldn't even be this awesome game Starcraft 2 so I think we should give them a break
It is not the problem that they don't have the time to implement it; nor is it difficult to code.
It is rather simple and already existing, but I don't know why they are not omplementing it.
Maybe they just dont know how to get the most money out of it...
Blizzard, do aou want no second name change so that we have to buy another copy?? wtf...
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On September 12 2011 13:14 Namkung wrote:
the point about not having free name change reducing spam / stream cheating etc. is certainly a valid point . but this problem only exists because we are only allowed to make one "id" (if you will) for one sc2 account and not as many as you want (like you could in wc3 or bw)
it's not really a valid point when it reflects 0.001% of the userbase's interests
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Just give us the option to change our names. Everyone has their own reason on why they want to. Personally i would probably change my name once a month due to clans and cooler ideas for a name. Lets just say i haven't found my life-long gamer name yet. Untiillllllll now!!! ^_^ i vote yes implement this as a if/then or yes/no code and it will take less then 5 minutes to make happen!
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We shouldnt be demanding a paid name changing, we should be demanding simple free name changes. Monetizing THIS is fucking pathetic and unacceptable.
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How hard would it be for Blizzard to implement a name-change feature? Seems like an easy thing to do is there something I'm missing..
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Looks like Blizzard doesn't need my money for any more Blizzard products. Thank you Blizzard for informing me! I will never pay for your games again! Phew, feels good having that off my back.
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On September 12 2011 13:01 Stealthypoo wrote:
Ahh, hopefully that thread gets really popular on b.net forums... I really hope they add it.. =_=
but knowing blizzard it'll take a long long time even though the code is only a few lines probably (considering they've coded a similar feature on WoW)
Well it's already like 3 times the size of this one, and grew 2 pages in the time it took me to write a response....
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On September 12 2011 12:50 benjammin wrote:
if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard?
You can change the Steam account name?
aosifjas0tuq09ut3asg why didn't I know I thought I was stuck with the name I picked when I was 10 years old.
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On September 12 2011 12:42 Licmyobelisk wrote:
should we TL.net provide awesum community spam for paid name change? I've been very very impatient to when this will be implemented.. -_-
Absolutely, we should spam. I'm generally quick to defend Blizzard from charges of being evil/stupid/hating e-sports, but if they think not enough people want this, then we need to change their minds.
Let's start pressuring for replay-with-friends, too!
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On September 12 2011 13:23 lowkontrast wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:50 benjammin wrote:
if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard? You can change the Steam account name? aosifjas0tuq09ut3asg why didn't I know I thought I was stuck with the name I picked when I was 10 years old.
you can't change your login name, but your in-game name and the name you see on your friends list can be changed any time you want
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On September 12 2011 13:22 Strivers wrote:
How hard would it be for Blizzard to implement a name-change feature? Seems like an easy thing to do is there something I'm missing..
As stated in the posts they haven't implemented it because "not enough people have asked for it", not because it is hard.
It doesn't really make sense why they haven't implemented a paid name change service though...more money for them. It's really illogical for them not to do it either way.
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I don't think stream cheating is a valid point at all. Only a hand full of players actually make a living/relevant money from streaming. Obviously stream cheating is something that should be addressed, but millions of players shouldn't be punished for what will happen either way.
If/when name changes come along, they'll probably be $20. Pay a little more and you can just get a brand new account. Even if it's banned, people can simply find cheap accounts else where. If someone wants to pay to be stupid, let them pay to be stupid, or let blizzard provide an actual fix to stream cheating.
edit: quoted wrong post. cant even find it. oh well.
On September 12 2011 13:24 sh4w wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 13:22 Strivers wrote:
How hard would it be for Blizzard to implement a name-change feature? Seems like an easy thing to do is there something I'm missing..
As stated in the posts they haven't implemented it because "not enough people have asked for it", not because it is hard. It doesn't really make sense why they haven't implemented a paid name change service though...more money for them. It's really illogical for them not to do it either way.
Forcing people to change their names by having to buy an entirely new account seems plausible. I'm sure they make way more money from that anyways than a small name change fee. I certainly wouldn't doubt blizzard would do it, either (purposefully force people to buy more accounts).
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On September 12 2011 13:04 graNite wrote:
They should make an community AMA to answer all these questions; it can't ne true that we have a b.net 0.2, no free name change and can't watch replays together....
there is an endless list of things to implement.
Sadly, even doing this, we'd still get the same thing we always get from Blizzard when things are addressed publicly.
"That's something we're looking into."
"We are planning on releasing that at some point so keep your eyes open."
I don't blame them for not wanting to leak all their secrets and such. However, the most simple things like a name change (which is already there...people have used it...I have used it) not being available for something reasonable, such as...once per season, is just downright ridiculous.
BNet 2 has a lot of potential but I just don't think Blizzard cares too much to invest a whole lot into it. It's a one-shot game. People buy it once, then they have it forever. Their cash cow people pay them $15 a month and obviously makes them much more money.
Sadly, money is the only thing that speaks in the business world so seeing basic functions like replay sharing, clan support and all that are things they can just step aside or put on the back burner until eternity if they want.
The only way to show dissatisfaction in their product is to stop using their product. Which I don't believe anyone will do.
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The whole no clan support in the new bnet really boggles my mind. They had in WC3 and it worked it was pretty good. Would it be so difficult to import a similar system?
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On September 12 2011 13:28 slicknav wrote:
The whole no clan support in the new bnet really boggles my mind. They had in WC3 and it worked it was pretty good. Would it be so difficult to import a similar system?
No, no it wouldn't. Not with the skilled programmers they have. Something like that is essentially trivial.
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What the fuck guys, you really really really really BELIEVE THIS? That they had no inclination that we wanted these features and they were worthwhile to implement????!?
Blizzard/Activision Marketing team has learned time and time again that consumers will pay hand over foot for features that should have been implemented day 1. Blizzard also knows that they will make more money from the people who will buy the game multiple times because of server/name changes. I know hundreds of people (thats not even an exaggeration) who own multiple accounts because of this.
Now you have a front line agent who has just received a fucking mass email to answer the above question with that statement for viral marketing ect. Nothing you say or do will change the speed of which they will release the feature. Please for the love of god stop being bronze at life.
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Does anyone else realize that talking to a customer service rep over the phone != blizzard developers or bigwigs? There's literall hundreds of cases of a customer service rep saying shit they are dead wrong about to try to difuse having to do more work for the customer when in fact changes are in development.
Service reps in wow often say there is nothing they can do for hacked accounts but if you push to talk to accounts managers or someone else on a different day and you'll get a speedy response that your account will be restored.
I'm sorry but 1 persons anecdotal phone conversation isn't suddenly going to turn me against a company that has been tried and true to trying to keep its customer base happy.
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On September 12 2011 13:32 Kazeyonoma wrote:
Does anyone else realize that talking to a customer service rep over the phone != blizzard developers or bigwigs? There's literall hundreds of cases of a customer service rep saying shit they are dead wrong about to try to difuse having to do more work for the customer when in fact changes are in development.
Service reps in wow often say there is nothing they can do for hacked accounts but if you push to talk to accounts managers or someone else on a different day and you'll get a speedy response that your account will be restored.
I'm sorry but 1 persons anecdotal phone conversation isn't suddenly going to turn me against a company that has been tried and true to trying to keep its customer base happy.
maybe but if it happened for wow it can happen for sc2, even tho we have 1/11 their numbers :D
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On September 12 2011 13:31 Whomp wrote:
What the fuck guys, you really really really really BELIEVE THIS? That they had no inclination that we wanted these features and they were worthwhile to implement????!?
Blizzard/Activision Marketing team has learned time and time again that consumers will pay hand over foot for features that should have been implemented day 1. Blizzard also knows that they will make more money from the people who will buy the game multiple times because of server/name changes. I know hundreds of people (thats not even an exaggeration) who own multiple accounts because of this.
Now you have a front line agent who has just received a fucking mass email to answer the above question with that statement for viral marketing ect. Nothing you say or do will change the speed of which they will release the feature. Please for the love of god stop being bronze at life.
Rage much? I'm less pissed off at blizzard than you seem to be at all of us. Maybe a unified public outcry will actually get some gears moving in blizzard. Weirder things have happened. Now quit being a dick just because this is the internet.
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i will support free name change, maybe a cooldown or restriction on it.
i will never support paid name change.
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how about earning one much like portraits? ex; 1000 games won = 1 name change available, this would allow pros to change their name (or clan..) when needed, but the casual player cant just do it willy-nilly
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On September 12 2011 13:39 MavercK wrote:
i will support free name change, maybe a cooldown or restriction on it.
i will never support paid name change.
Then pay even more to buy a new account.
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The suggestion earlier in this thread - that you should be given a name change per season while active - sounds very reasonable. Maybe, since seasons vary in length, they could put it on a cooldown of a few months so it remains regular, but still, it's on the right track. Add clan tag support and the vast majority of people should be good
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On September 12 2011 13:39 MavercK wrote:
i will support free name change, maybe a cooldown or restriction on it.
i will never support paid name change.
Same, I remember this game that was pretty good a long time ago, you could change your name whenever you wanted and do a bunch of other cool stuff. I think it was called Broodwar or something.
Set a cool-down or some type of limitation, but paying to change text from one name to another is just ridiculous. I guess that is just asking too much though.
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dude i don't want to have to PAY just to change my name it should be free, I am very very very against this movement. Letting blizzard charge me for something that should be simply free is a bad precedent to set and will harm the future of all blizzard titles, including the popularity of sc2.
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On September 12 2011 13:28 slicknav wrote:
The whole no clan support in the new bnet really boggles my mind. They had in WC3 and it worked it was pretty good. Would it be so difficult to import a similar system?
This is shitting me so much, how are they not even planning to implement this???
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it pisses me off how they are making people dance for shit that we should not even have to pay for, its fucking embarrassing. i think everyone should be able to have 1 fee namechange a season at least
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On September 12 2011 13:52 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 13:28 slicknav wrote:
The whole no clan support in the new bnet really boggles my mind. They had in WC3 and it worked it was pretty good. Would it be so difficult to import a similar system? This is shitting me so much, how are they not even planning to implement this???
it probably would take a long time. adding chat channels took them like a year
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Well that's silly. No plans in the works at all? I was thinking at worst it would come with HotS. They should really have paid name change and clan tag support by now.
Though I prefer to stay far away from the bnet forums, I made my way over there to post in the thread. Hopefully this one actually gets their attention, but I feel like there have been threads like it before already
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This really annoys me. First they mention in the past they were working to get name change and clan support going and now they are telling us to basically beg them a year later when people gave up expecting these features. WTF? The community was very vocal about the name change and always supportive of having a clan system in place. Shouldn`t THEY know what the community wants? Since I don`t think they blindly created the game and ignored the fanbase. Its just weird that we have to start petitions and all this crap just to get b.net 2.0 to add some meaningful features. I thought they were continually going to add more features.
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On September 12 2011 13:50 TheGiftedApe wrote:
dude i don't want to have to PAY just to change my name it should be free, I am very very very against this movement. Letting blizzard charge me for something that should be simply free is a bad precedent to set and will harm the future of all blizzard titles, including the popularity of sc2.
This is basically how I feel. It's ridiculous to start up WC3 and have more options and an easier to understand and access social interface when it's 8 years older than Starcraft 2. One thing I am against though is the ability to make endless smurf accounts for free. There are enough problems with people doing these sorts of things already. Just because some pay money to do it, doesn't mean there aren't thousands more who would do it if it was free.
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Wow yeah this is so stupid. The best way to implement name change would be to have one available once a month or something like that.
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I cannot support this. Im not paying for something so trivial when they wont even take the time to fix their shitty interface. Even small companies like s2 work hard to make improvements on their interface.
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On September 12 2011 14:00 Jayrod wrote:
I cannot support this. Im not paying for something so trivial when they wont even take the time to fix their shitty interface. Even small companies like s2 work hard to make improvements on their interface.
think about others this community needs this + clan support
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What they should be doing is adding paid name changes with a restriction (once a month?), and a free clan-tag system, preferably with a full featured clan system. That way a player can join a clan without needing to use a paid name change, so names would be generally be changed around less (if your gonna have to change your name, some people would just change their whole name rather than just change the clan tag part of it), but you could freely move from clan to clan. Of course, the reason I suggest a full featured clan system is that a clan leader could have the responsibility of OKing the clan tag change when joining a clan, keeping people from just sticking whatever they want in their clan tag, and it would also pave the way for a system of clan owned rooms with administrative privileges similar to what was present in the older battle.net.
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"Blizzard to add name change if people show support."
I'm all for it! :DDDD
"Blizzard to add paid name change if people show support."
How about fuck off. It should be like in the beta where you have an account name and a display name except allow you to change your display name however you like.
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lol people are begging to give blizzard their money just for a name change. Here we go.
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On September 12 2011 14:02 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 14:00 Jayrod wrote:
I cannot support this. Im not paying for something so trivial when they wont even take the time to fix their shitty interface. Even small companies like s2 work hard to make improvements on their interface. think about others this community needs this + clan support
Sorry but id like to know where the fk all the money is going if not to enhance their products. TBH if they had clan support there would be absolutely zero need for anyone to change their name. Id be willing to fight for clan support but not if its paid clan support.
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the only reason i support paying name changes is based off the assumption that they wouldn't simply do it for free, since that's how WoW is, even if the idea of paying to change a name when i play steam games where i can change my name at will is completely retarded.
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wtf blizzard implement this shit tonight give me a break, programmers aren't meant to sleep anyways..
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Blizzard will do it if enough people ask for it. Until then its not on their list of priorities as they have A LOT to do. I have been trying to get one for a while and talked to several employees about it however there is a lot of bureaucracy involved and won't happen any time soon unless the community demands it. Good initiative!
Employees DO read the forum and if enough people keep asking it will be discussed.
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the game warns you that the name you choose is permanent, maybe ya'll should have thought about your names when you picked them
(and yes i realize there was a short window at launch where it didn't, but we all got free name changes)
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I must be a total retard, I was completely under the impression this was already in the game hahaha.
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Good God, Blizzard. Such a disconnect with their fans these days.
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I find it absurd Blizzard says there isn't enough support for it. I have read a LOT of complaints form people about not being able to change names.
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On September 12 2011 14:12 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
Blizzard will do it if enough people ask for it. Until then its not on their list of priorities as they have A LOT to do. I have been trying to get one for a while and talked to several employees about it however there is a lot of bureaucracy involved and won't happen any time soon unless the community demands it. Good initiative!
Employees DO read the forum and if enough people keep asking it will be discussed.
if its a good initiative why don't I see your post on the blizz forums <3 !
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On September 12 2011 14:13 thatsundowner wrote:
the game warns you that the name you choose is permanent, maybe ya'll should have thought about your names when you picked them
(and yes i realize there was a short window at launch where it didn't, but we all got free name changes)
Ya, you should all be able to see into the future to know that you're going to change teams!
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I don't understand the thought behind why name change must be "Paid" to stop abuse...
seriously..
Add a 30/60/90 day Cooldown on the name change button, no abuse. No one pays for something ridiculous such as changing one line of writing in a text file. Everyone is happy.
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we need name change options please
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On September 12 2011 14:18 SpinmovE wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 14:13 thatsundowner wrote:
the game warns you that the name you choose is permanent, maybe ya'll should have thought about your names when you picked them
(and yes i realize there was a short window at launch where it didn't, but we all got free name changes) Ya, you should all be able to see into the future to know that you're going to change teams!
clan/team tag support would be great, easily abused free name changes is not the way to support that though
basically if name changes are ever introduced it's going to be a paid service no matter how easy it might be to go into the database and change somebody's name, and it's almost entirely due to how easily you could abuse it
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I'll probably pass on HotS if they add name changes for $$. The shortcomings of b.net 2.0 still blow me away. It's been a year, how are things like group replay watching and clan support not in?
Even chat channels were done pretty half assed imo but I guess something is better than nothing in that regard.
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Shit like this makes me want to just play Brood War instead. At least Blizzard is hands off with that game.
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LOL as if we haven't been begging for this for the past year? What a joke.
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"paid" namechange, I am sure the WoW community asked for it, espacially the paid part.
Its a simple change in a database, like when your game results are written in it after you played a match. I dont pay money after everygame so my results are updated to the SC II database, so why should I pay for a gamename update ?
Some sort of cooldown to not permanently change the name would suffice.
The tech is already implemented because we already had a onetime namechange opportunity but all they wanna do is get money for simple features.
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On September 12 2011 14:22 Gingerninja wrote:
I don't understand the thought behind why name change must be "Paid" to stop abuse...
seriously..
Add a 30/60/90 day Cooldown on the name change button, no abuse. No one pays for something ridiculous such as changing one line of writing in a text file. Everyone is happy.
Its all about milking the customers. There is lots of ways to prevent abuse, Blizzard just wants our money.
Unfortunately a lot of dumb people on the blizzard forums are asking for paid name change instead of name change and even saying it is needed to prevent abuse....sighhh...
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On September 12 2011 14:29 Holy_AT wrote:
"paid" namechange, I am sure the WoW community asked for it, espacially the paid part.
Its a simple change in a database, like when your game results are written in it after you played a match. I dont pay money after everygame so my results are updated to the SC II database, so why should I pay for a gamename update ?
Some sort of cooldown to not permanently change the name would suffice.
The tech is already implemented because we already had a onetime namechange opportunity but all they wanna do is get money for simple features.
continue comparing key game functionality to a purely cosmetic thing, and no, a cooldown on name changes would not stop abuse, only slow it down
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And what's to stop Deezer paying $5 to change name to abuse people? Slowing it down stops constantly changing name to hide identity, you can't be afraid to choose such an option because it will happen regardless of what you do, making 95% of us pay money to change username is ridiculous.
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On September 12 2011 14:34 DarKcS wrote:
And what's to stop Deezer paying $5 to change name to abuse people? Slowing it down stops constantly changing name to hide identity, you can't be afraid to choose such an option because it will happen regardless of what you do, making 95% of us pay money to change username is ridiculous.
you don't see how just the pure fact that there's a real cost involved heavily cuts down on the abuse a name change system will have? it'll obviously still exist, you don't make the problem worse by making it easier to harass people
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Has anyone made a thread on the sc2 forums for us to post in?
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Hm for most people its not that important but I would pay $70 for a name change simply because I don't want to get another account with top 10 mmr and add 200 friends again...
Obviously I am an anomaly but still $15 and a 2 month cooldown is more than reasonable and would be mutually beneficial as I see it, so with enough of a push I can see this happening easily.
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Paid name change would obviously be a great thing, especially for the pros. I SUPPORT
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On September 12 2011 13:10 DoNotDisturb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 13:00 Truedot wrote:On September 12 2011 12:46 DoNotDisturb wrote:
To everyone whining that name changes should be free
> Imagine if this feature would be free and unlimited ? The internet is already filled with assholes and stream cheaters imagine if they could change character code/portrait/name every day ?
Seriously guys? by setting up a "pay to grief" system as you're stating, you're in effect legitimizing all people's claims that "they can be assholes and just buy their way out of it". Seriously? is that the kind of way you think society should be? or are you just dumb? What you may not have realized is that people already do this "paid name change" on their own, via selling their SC2 account/CD and buying a new one. GMs and their friends have done it with smurf accounts that get revealed. You really think "pro" griefers and internet assholes dont do this as well? Some simply buy new CDs without even selling their old ones. So saying that it should be a paid name change makes as much sense as shitting on the carpet. On September 12 2011 12:52 a176 wrote:
I don't understand why people would pay money to change their name in a video game. exactly. Quick to jump to personal insults, aren't you? I'm more amused that people are thinking that Blizzard is actually willing to give free name changes.
it was a question with a choice you could answer, and my point stands, as you failed to refute it.
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Personally I think everyone should just create a topic on bnet requesting name change. Hard to ignore 20+ topics of it
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I don't understand why Blizzard is taking steps back, I mean bnet 2.0 is so much worse than the original just prettier. And now without name changing they are taking another huge step backwards I mean that has been in multiplayer games since they were multiplayer... It is unbelievable that they are not allowing name changing, I still feel like this is some how Activision's fault.
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On September 12 2011 14:31 thatsundowner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 14:29 Holy_AT wrote:
"paid" namechange, I am sure the WoW community asked for it, espacially the paid part.
Its a simple change in a database, like when your game results are written in it after you played a match. I dont pay money after everygame so my results are updated to the SC II database, so why should I pay for a gamename update ?
Some sort of cooldown to not permanently change the name would suffice.
The tech is already implemented because we already had a onetime namechange opportunity but all they wanna do is get money for simple features. continue comparing key game functionality to a purely cosmetic thing, and no, a cooldown on name changes would not stop abuse, only slow it down
Nothing will completely stop abuse on the internet. Payed name changes will also slow down abuse. The difference is a cool down on a name change or per season is reasonable. Paying for a such a simple feature is not acceptable, and will set a terrible precedent for the future of interactions between dumb customers and micro transacations.
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On September 12 2011 14:36 thatsundowner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 14:34 DarKcS wrote:
And what's to stop Deezer paying $5 to change name to abuse people? Slowing it down stops constantly changing name to hide identity, you can't be afraid to choose such an option because it will happen regardless of what you do, making 95% of us pay money to change username is ridiculous. you don't see how just the pure fact that there's a real cost involved heavily cuts down on the abuse a name change system will have? it'll obviously still exist, you don't make the problem worse by making it easier to harass people
why are you ignoring the point that this is legitimizing people "paying off their sins" in society, so that people believe its ok to act that way if you have enough money? Think Deezer or combatEX don't buy new accounts to grief people with? They do. In fact, CombatEX hasn't stopped, he's even recorded himself ON HIS STREAM, streamsniping someone else and then using their stream for starting position intel before they black it out.
So you really think paid name change is going to stop that? you really thinking making it "pay to change" or "cooldown" is going to prevent these people from continuing to do that?
All you people making the argument that you should pay so that we can cut down on abuse are beinng completely oblivious to the results in front of your eyes.
what is this entire thread being trolled by "pro-blizz/activision" lobbyist moneymaking sockpuppets? Just like that thread said about people being paid wages to speak on a political party's behalf? This would make entirely more sense than a bunch of people failing time and again to see the name changing doesn't exist, and the abuse continues unabated. and that as such, making everyone pay real money for it is not going to curb abuse, whatsoever. and people that do want to abuse buy smurf accounts or just keep at it with their old name.
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Man, name changing is such an easy way to make money. Why not?
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We need this we want this... oICRemorse....not DHRemorse.... T_T. Cant cahnge it tho...
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"ROOTDestiny might like this to btw. :D
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On September 12 2011 12:47 AJMcSpiffy wrote:
Namechange can be charged, I understand the idea of not wanting a ton of people to all switch to the same name to troll a player/stream/tournament. However to supplement that I think there should be a separate clan tag space that can be freely changed and edited. Best of both worlds?
Oh i like this idea with a week cooldown on the tags  . Would need quiet a database update though...
And well thats how value added service always works, if enough people demand it they will offer it. (and since they have to employ people for it, they have to charge a little. And in games where scamming and other things are possible (sc2 isn't one of those), they have to make something like name changes quiet expensive, to keep people from abusing it)
"yeah we know it hurts the game and stuff, but people want it ... better have a broken game, rather then no one playing it."
I would still poke them about such things from time to time. There are 2 expansions and while its probably to late for the first, the second might get the stuff you want, if enough others want it as well.
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On September 12 2011 14:45 Karliath wrote:
Man, name changing is such an easy way to make money. Why not?
Because you can spend the loyalty of brand for money.
Example:
Blizzard said less than a year beforehand they'd never have micro-transactions in WoW, and they decided that it would be a great idea to release a cosmetic re-skinned flying space unicorn mount available for $25USD. People bought it, because there was a value assigned with it. Same goes with their server transfers, they can do that stuff for free but they can also make a good amount of money but also pissing off the playerbase at the same time a little.
Activision is a big proponent of using this sort of business model, its essentially why they are charging so much for the DLC pack in Call of Duty, gamers just grit their teeth and pay the money.
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I don't understand this at all tbh. Support them to pay them 20$ for something they already have implemented on WoW..... I mean why do we need to give them incentive to give them money. Oh well, I hope it goes through but it is kind of silly.
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If I want a paid name change, I can do like the pros, sell off my old account to someone else (even though its against blizz rules its done), or just keep it, and buy a new CD. And if I sell it off after getting so many online achievements and a high ladder position with it, I can sell it for more than I bought it. so then I actually make money in addition to getting my name changed.
but people fail to see this part of the argument. the ability to namechange, for 60 dollars, for 10 dollars (if u sell the game cheaper than you bought it), or for free or even making money of it (if you sell it for even price or profit), and that this part of the argument completely invalidates all arguments about paid name change to stop abuse. Free name change for same accounts would be the only difference between a paid name change and buying another SC2 copy while selling your old one.
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On September 12 2011 14:50 Atlare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 14:45 Karliath wrote:
Man, name changing is such an easy way to make money. Why not? Because you can spend the loyalty of brand for money. Example: Blizzard said less than a year beforehand they'd never have micro-transactions in WoW, and they decided that it would be a great idea to release a cosmetic re-skinned flying space unicorn mount available for $25USD. People bought it, because there was a value assigned with it. Same goes with their server transfers, they can do that stuff for free but they can also make a good amount of money but also pissing off the playerbase at the same time a little. Activision is a big proponent of using this sort of business model, its essentially why they are charging so much for the DLC pack in Call of Duty, gamers just grit their teeth and pay the money.
I've never paid for a DLC for call of duty btw. fuck activision.
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i thought they were already planning on implenting this.. TT
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super disappointed in blizzard.
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On September 12 2011 14:52 Truedot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 14:50 Atlare wrote:On September 12 2011 14:45 Karliath wrote:
Man, name changing is such an easy way to make money. Why not? Because you can spend the loyalty of brand for money. Example: Blizzard said less than a year beforehand they'd never have micro-transactions in WoW, and they decided that it would be a great idea to release a cosmetic re-skinned flying space unicorn mount available for $25USD. People bought it, because there was a value assigned with it. Same goes with their server transfers, they can do that stuff for free but they can also make a good amount of money but also pissing off the playerbase at the same time a little. Activision is a big proponent of using this sort of business model, its essentially why they are charging so much for the DLC pack in Call of Duty, gamers just grit their teeth and pay the money. I've never paid for a DLC for call of duty btw. fuck activision.
You're a rare breed. Keep voting with your wallet, lord knows 99.9% of the playerbase can't.
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On September 12 2011 12:21 desrow wrote:http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3123318915?page=1Show nested quote +DMsev
After asking a few questions, I was informed that no support for paid name changes or clantag support is currently in the works. Contrary to the hopeful message in our Battle.net account profiles, it is not coming soon. I was also met with the revelation that this is because there are not enough people expressing a desire to make this happen. Finally, I was told that the World of Warcraft paid name change support came about from the community asking for it and showing a noticeable desire to have it done, and was given the suggestion to make a thread about it specifically in the Multiplayer and ESports forum, and get people to give their opinion on it. Basically, this one dude sent a support ticket to blizzard asking for Name change and blizzard explained that the feature wasn't part of WoW before but because enough people showed interest, the WoW community made it happen. Now, this guy didn't add any screenshot of his support ticket or didn't quote the customer service employee who replied to him, I believe it's still worth a shot. Basically, the bnet thread is a way to show blizzard we want clan feature and paid name change. This was posted on reddit but hopefully with teamliquid behind this, we can make it happen Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/kclfr/make_a_difference_in_bnet_name_change_support/Edit: The OP clarified his story in a post on page 5 Show nested quote +DMsev
also for the record, the conversation was entirely over the phone. i apologize that i didn't think to record it. i'll add this message to the OP. My opinion: A lot of people believe this should be free and that blizzard is "milking" the cow. Imagine if this feature would be free and unlimited ? The internet is already filled with assholes and stream cheaters imagine if they could change character code/portrait/name every day ? A long time ago I thought blizzard was greedy but they are doing us a favor by not giving every dick on battle.net a chance to spam anonymously
I support this and like the Clantag because it allows people to have clans that aren't so binding. Not to mention with all the team transfers in the pro scene this will help them by not having to buy a new account every other time. Although I do fear the fact that anyone could have a liquid or EG tag. Not to mention how long would clan tags get to be? Slayers or Prime.we seem kinda long for a clan tag...
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On September 12 2011 14:51 Truedot wrote:
If I want a paid name change, I can do like the pros, sell off my old account to someone else (even though its against blizz rules its done), or just keep it, and buy a new CD. And if I sell it off after getting so many online achievements and a high ladder position with it, I can sell it for more than I bought it. so then I actually make money in addition to getting my name changed.
but people fail to see this part of the argument. the ability to namechange, for 60 dollars, for 10 dollars (if u sell the game cheaper than you bought it), or for free or even making money of it (if you sell it for even price or profit), and that this part of the argument completely invalidates all arguments about paid name change to stop abuse. Free name change for same accounts would be the only difference between a paid name change and buying another SC2 copy while selling your old one.
explain to me how free name changes (even ones on a cooldown) would have less abuse than paid ones.
"abuse already exists" is really not a valid argument here, the hurdle to get around it right now is very high. i sincerely doubt there are that many people who can sell their sc2 account for a whole lot of money, and even fewer that actually would buy it. paid name changes lower the hurdle slightly but also give people what they want. free name changes completely get rid of the hurdle and tells all the assholes of the internet to "go nuts"
On September 12 2011 14:50 Atlare wrote:
Blizzard said less than a year beforehand they'd never have micro-transactions in WoW, and they decided that it would be a great idea to release a cosmetic re-skinned flying space unicorn mount available for $25USD. People bought it, because there was a value assigned with it. Same goes with their server transfers, they can do that stuff for free but they can also make a good amount of money but also pissing off the playerbase at the same time a little.
"we will never have micro-transactions" is quite the claim, i'd like for you to back this one up, actually. especially since blizzard are the kings of "we have no plans at this time" whenever asked about something
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This requires no effort on the part of Blizzard, seriously guys. You can already change your SC2 char name once for free; I'm not computer expert but I imagine all you would have to do is change it to instead of only limited to 1 name change ---> unlimited name changes.
I'd really like to see this implemented, who wouldn't? But if they start charging, I'm keeping my shitty name. FFS... it's always about the fucking cash
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Either one would be cool, name OR clantag change. Obviously with the possibility to change your whole name you can affect the tag part in your name aswell... I'd like to get a chance to change my name again, after i used the 1 free change while being drunk :d
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On September 12 2011 12:58 Kid-Fox wrote:
Why not make it free but only allow active players to change names once per season? Seems somewhat tough to abuse to me.
First of all how long is a season? 6 months? If so, then how about 1 per every 3 months non-stackable and no exceptions. That way no abuse and could help the pros who are switching teams. I like your idea though, I just think a season is kinda long.
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DMKuDoKu ---
I think everyone here misunderstands what it takes for Blizzard to do this. I agree that Blizzard made a HUGE mistake by not allowing name change fallowed by money, but the real question here is how hard is it for Blizzard to do this?
The truth is... it's extremely easy. That's right, I lied about how hard it is to program this. Everyone here knows that it takes no work to do this step as Blizzard.
I can practically write out the code that Blizzard would have to use, not to mention that an automated name changer would take approximately 10 or 15 lines of code. Is that too much to ask? No.
There are four variables fallowing each character.
1: Bnet name
2: Current character code
3: Email
4: Password
Wanna know how much work blizzard has to change out of that? Only two variables. It's complete bull that Blizzard doesn't intend to add in the name change ability, let alone the fact that we as a community WOULD NOT MIND PAYING FOR IT.
Questions people must be asking if this change WERE to go down:
Q: How would Blizzard deal with banning cheaters?
A: Blizzard doesn't ban the character name, just the email address.
Q: How long would this take to get working?
A: If the Starcraft II department worked on it eight hours a day five days a week, it would take about 10 minutes.
Q: Can you prove that it would take 10-15 lines of code to fix this?
A: Yeah it's pretty simple, anyone who understands simple syntax should be able to understand this:
function changeName(inputEmail, newName)
{
inputEmail.name = newName;
}
changeName(email@whatev.com, "DMKuDoKu");
That simple.
Q: What about in tournaments?
A: Tournaments should allow you to change your name on Bnet and character code if it is needed.
Q: So Blizzard really is just not doing this for NO reason?
A: Well, I remember Blizzard saying (in the beta of SCII) that they, as a company, wanted SCII to be a game that is well rounded around the GAME and the INTERNET... and that's all I remember blizzard saying when I asked them why there wouldn't be a name change when retail came out. Basically, yes my friends, there is NO reason to not have this change.
That is all.
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i think the clantag idea is the one that they need to work on the most. i mean seriously didnt blizzard say that sc2 was developed around the idea of it being an eSport? i think a pretty important foundation in eSport is having teams/clans and that people are expected to change teams from time to time. i'm quite disappointed with the support for these things
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Ok, that was a little weird to read, but sure, I'll obviously support it
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I totally agree with your edit. Changing your handle often is unnecessary. I've had mine for a long time and I'm happy with it
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On September 12 2011 12:54 tok wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:50 benjammin wrote:
if valve can manage it, why can't blizzard? All names on Steam are cosmetic. Valve definitely knows how to listen to the community. Somebody get a petition and hand it to Bobby Kotick.
Better yet, somebody show Dustin B.net 1.0.
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On September 12 2011 14:59 Sultan.P wrote:
This requires no effort on the part of Blizzard, seriously guys. You can already change your SC2 char name once for free; I'm not computer expert but I imagine all you would have to do is change it to instead of only limited to 1 name change ---> unlimited name changes.
yeah, its harder to implement a one time change than a unlimited change
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They actually already coded it. We got 1 free name change, remember?
The entire namechange operation is an UPDATE query in the database, which is approximately 2 lines (I'm being generous, assuming they generate the char# manually - it could be handled as Autonumber as well).
Blizzard has become a major drag to deal with. How jaded are the employees there, that they have to even hesitate before adding the most basic of features, even if you say "I'll pay you to do it!"
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On September 12 2011 15:20 graNite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 14:59 Sultan.P wrote:
This requires no effort on the part of Blizzard, seriously guys. You can already change your SC2 char name once for free; I'm not computer expert but I imagine all you would have to do is change it to instead of only limited to 1 name change ---> unlimited name changes.
yeah, its harder to implement a one time change than a unlimited change
I don't think anyone at all has claimed a name change system would be hard to implement, what takes time is figuring out the actual necessity of such a thing and how to go about implementing it (cost, cooldown, and so on)
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On September 12 2011 15:20 graNite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 14:59 Sultan.P wrote:
This requires no effort on the part of Blizzard, seriously guys. You can already change your SC2 char name once for free; I'm not computer expert but I imagine all you would have to do is change it to instead of only limited to 1 name change ---> unlimited name changes.
yeah, its harder to implement a one time change than a unlimited change
No it's not, that's patently wrong. It's the exact same SQL query. The only addition is the payment system, which they already have, since bnet 2.0 is a storefront.
They even already have the field in the database which stores the number of name changes that you have on your account...
There is virtually no cost to implementing this.
Source: Software engineer
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There is way too many people with a sense of self-entitlement. It really needs to stop! The money we paid for the game was for the Content of all the different game modes. This crap about these different things should already be in the game and "Give me what I want attitude or else" is something I think that just hurts the gaming community.
Regardless of whether you think it should be free or not doesn't really matter. If they make it so you have to pay for a Name Change, that is there right. They are adding extra features and services to the game which doesn't just come out of thin air. Also, maybe it hasn't been put in the game yet cause they are working on other cool stuff, like maybe the next expansion or new units, maybe other stuff that is just more important then something like this.
We should be thankful for what we do have and that Blizzard is willing to try and improve things! I know a lot of people are passionate about this game but lets do it the right way, unless you are a Dev on the SC2 team we don't know what it takes to make changes or how simple or hard it is.
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On September 12 2011 15:29 Masada714 wrote:
There is way too many people with a sense of self-entitlement. It really needs to stop! The money we paid for the game was for the Content of all the different game modes. This crap about these different things should already be in the game and "Give me what I want attitude or else" is something I think that just hurts the gaming community.
Regardless of whether you think it should be free or not doesn't really matter. If they make it so you have to pay for a Name Change, that is there right. They are adding extra features and services to the game which doesn't just come out of thin air. Also, maybe it hasn't been put in the game yet cause they are working on other cool stuff, like maybe the next expansion or new units, maybe other stuff that is just more important then something like this.
We should be thankful for what we do have and that Blizzard is willing to try and improve things! I know a lot of people are passionate about this game but lets do it the right way, unless you are a Dev on the SC2 team we don't know what it takes to make changes or how simple or hard it is.
Thankful for what we have?
Dude they took things away from us that we had 10+ years ago in Brood War and Warcraft III...
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On September 12 2011 15:32 CuSToM wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 15:29 Masada714 wrote:
There is way too many people with a sense of self-entitlement. It really needs to stop! The money we paid for the game was for the Content of all the different game modes. This crap about these different things should already be in the game and "Give me what I want attitude or else" is something I think that just hurts the gaming community.
Regardless of whether you think it should be free or not doesn't really matter. If they make it so you have to pay for a Name Change, that is there right. They are adding extra features and services to the game which doesn't just come out of thin air. Also, maybe it hasn't been put in the game yet cause they are working on other cool stuff, like maybe the next expansion or new units, maybe other stuff that is just more important then something like this.
We should be thankful for what we do have and that Blizzard is willing to try and improve things! I know a lot of people are passionate about this game but lets do it the right way, unless you are a Dev on the SC2 team we don't know what it takes to make changes or how simple or hard it is. Thankful for what we have? Dude they took things away from us that we had 10+ years ago in Brood War and Warcraft III...
And then charged us more for it, plus 2 expansions to pay for, plus the micro-transaction "b.net market thing" they said they will be setting up. O_O
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Yes we would like free name changes.
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On September 12 2011 15:29 Masada714 wrote:
unless you are a Dev on the SC2 team we don't know what it takes to make changes or how simple or hard it is.
- Just because computers seem like voodoo magic to you doesn't mean that nobody understands them. Name change is trivial, and this is not a debatable thing.
- "Entitlement" - the free market economy is powered by paid entitlement. I paid 60$, now give me some standard services on par with what we had in 1997.
- Battered housewife attitudes undermine the market and the economy. "It's not Blizzard's fault we're missing features that were standard in the 90s." Except it is their fault, and the solution is trivial.
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I support this 100%. I honestly don't care if I have to pay or not, I just want to change my damn name.
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On September 12 2011 15:29 Masada714 wrote:
There is way too many people with a sense of self-entitlement. It really needs to stop! The money we paid for the game was for the Content of all the different game modes. This crap about these different things should already be in the game and "Give me what I want attitude or else" is something I think that just hurts the gaming community.
Regardless of whether you think it should be free or not doesn't really matter. If they make it so you have to pay for a Name Change, that is there right. They are adding extra features and services to the game which doesn't just come out of thin air. Also, maybe it hasn't been put in the game yet cause they are working on other cool stuff, like maybe the next expansion or new units, maybe other stuff that is just more important then something like this.
We should be thankful for what we do have and that Blizzard is willing to try and improve things! I know a lot of people are passionate about this game but lets do it the right way, unless you are a Dev on the SC2 team we don't know what it takes to make changes or how simple or hard it is.
Blizzard has just as much of a right to charge for name changes as everyone who owns SC2 to get pissed off over it. Incentives.
Also, "we don't know what it takes." Neither do you. You make the bold assumption it's difficult. You discredit blizzard, almost as if you're in other words, insinuating that they're incompetent.
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On September 12 2011 15:35 Brotocol wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 15:29 Masada714 wrote:
unless you are a Dev on the SC2 team we don't know what it takes to make changes or how simple or hard it is. - Just because computers seem like voodoo magic to you doesn't mean that nobody understands them. Name change is trivial, and this is not a debatable thing. - "Entitlement" - the free market economy is powered by paid entitlement. I paid 60$, now give me some standard services on par with what we had in 1997. - Battered housewife attitudes undermine the market and the economy. "It's not Blizzard's fault we're missing features that were standard in the 90s." Except it is their fault, and the solution is trivial.
The ability to make a new account at will isn't exactly the same thing as name changes, especially with the internet being a very different place.
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I came here to support this. Although this feature doesn't immediately affect me, I understand there's people that do need it, especially those at the forefront of SC2 progaming. I'm more interested in a clan tag feature however, as that would affect the vast majority of the community who perhaps doesn't want to spend an extra $60 whenever they affiliate with some sort of clan, but who still want to represent their clan appropriately with a tag.
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I want clans again the most.... I think it would help strengthen the community.
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posted on that thread.. i hope everyone does because this really needs to get done as soon as possible.
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On September 12 2011 15:37 thatsundowner wrote:
The ability to make a new account at will isn't exactly the same thing as name changes, especially with the internet being a very different place.
That's not what's being discussed though. People are just asking for name change. And it really is a trivial addition. And they're even willing to pay.
The point here is that Blizzard needs to stop being coy about name change. It's almost a tease at this point.
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this is stupid. we shouldn't have to pay for a name change, we should be able to change after every season or some other system. And seriously, they need a clan-tag system. People who change teams/people who's name doesn't fit with the clantag really need it.
Blizzard, always milking the cow.
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These threads which are about featuers that bnet 0.2 lacks makes me so bad because they are so true. Maybe we should do what we can and just make a thread in bnet forums where people can sign up. Can't think of anything else...
Btw searched forums and Couldn't find one thread in front page, so if there is good writer it would be awesome if he opened a thread.
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lets try to get as many replies as possible by 8am pacific time. that's likely when blizzard (based in california) will get to work and read all the fuss on their forums. we should try to make it at a critical mass by that time or else it might be glossed over altogether.
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they should charge us every time we ladder if they want money so bad
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Worst trend in modern gaming: blaming "the community."
"Guys, if the community supports the feature enough, say, 2,000,000 posts showing support, we'll add a feature that literally takes 10 minutes to add." How obnoxious is this...
It's equivalent to saying "dance for us, peasants, and maybe we'll throw you a bone."
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On September 12 2011 15:43 Brotocol wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 15:37 thatsundowner wrote:
The ability to make a new account at will isn't exactly the same thing as name changes, especially with the internet being a very different place. That's not what's being discussed though. People are just asking for name change. And it really is a trivial addition. And they're even willing to pay. The point here is that Blizzard needs to stop being coy about name change. It's almost a tease at this point.
People are claiming that brood war had name change support, all I was saying is that it let you make new accounts at will which isn't the same thing
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On September 12 2011 15:47 thatsundowner wrote:
People are claiming that brood war had name change support, all I was saying is that it let you make new accounts at will which isn't the same thing
Ah, I see your point now. Nonetheless, if it's a design decision not to allow new accounts to be made, then surely name change is the solution.
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I think blizz is most worried about smurfs, I think they should give a free name change every time a new ladder season begins. I mean we don't want clan hoppers or smurfers so I think a name change every season is reasonable.
Either that or a pay system where you can change anytime but for a price.
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On September 12 2011 15:26 Brotocol wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 15:20 graNite wrote:On September 12 2011 14:59 Sultan.P wrote:
This requires no effort on the part of Blizzard, seriously guys. You can already change your SC2 char name once for free; I'm not computer expert but I imagine all you would have to do is change it to instead of only limited to 1 name change ---> unlimited name changes.
yeah, its harder to implement a one time change than a unlimited change No it's not, that's patently wrong. It's the exact same SQL query. The only addition is the payment system, which they already have, since bnet 2.0 is a storefront. They even already have the field in the database which stores the number of name changes that you have on your account... There is virtually no cost to implementing this. Source: Software engineer
I concur with this. It's quite obvious they already have this implemented (since we all got 1 free name change). I'm really baffled at how having more name changes would be difficult to implement unless they designed their back end in some really bizarre way.
Look, people need to stop saying "Whatever Blizzard does I'm sure is right" or "We don't know because we're not Blizzard". Computers aren't magic. There is not magic in this or super secret technology, and there are plenty of people here that can understand the technology side of this.
A name change should be a trivial thing to implement.
Edit: Also this whole thing is really pathetic of Blizzard.
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Love how I can't show my support on the thread because I'm European..
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On September 12 2011 15:49 fraktoasters wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 15:26 Brotocol wrote:On September 12 2011 15:20 graNite wrote:On September 12 2011 14:59 Sultan.P wrote:
This requires no effort on the part of Blizzard, seriously guys. You can already change your SC2 char name once for free; I'm not computer expert but I imagine all you would have to do is change it to instead of only limited to 1 name change ---> unlimited name changes.
yeah, its harder to implement a one time change than a unlimited change No it's not, that's patently wrong. It's the exact same SQL query. The only addition is the payment system, which they already have, since bnet 2.0 is a storefront. They even already have the field in the database which stores the number of name changes that you have on your account... There is virtually no cost to implementing this. Source: Software engineer I concur with this. It's quite obvious they already have this implemented (since we all got 1 free name change). I'm really baffled at how having more name changes would be difficult to implement unless they designed their back end in some really bizarre way. Look, people need to stop saying "Whatever Blizzard does I'm sure is right" or "We don't know because we're not Blizzard". Computers aren't magic. There is not magic in this or super secret technology, and there are plenty of people here that can understand the technology side of this. A name change should be a trivial thing to implement.
people keep posting to these mythical people who are claiming name changes are hard to implement when i haven't seen a single post that actually says that
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On September 12 2011 15:50 thatsundowner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 15:49 fraktoasters wrote:On September 12 2011 15:26 Brotocol wrote:On September 12 2011 15:20 graNite wrote:On September 12 2011 14:59 Sultan.P wrote:
This requires no effort on the part of Blizzard, seriously guys. You can already change your SC2 char name once for free; I'm not computer expert but I imagine all you would have to do is change it to instead of only limited to 1 name change ---> unlimited name changes.
yeah, its harder to implement a one time change than a unlimited change No it's not, that's patently wrong. It's the exact same SQL query. The only addition is the payment system, which they already have, since bnet 2.0 is a storefront. They even already have the field in the database which stores the number of name changes that you have on your account... There is virtually no cost to implementing this. Source: Software engineer I concur with this. It's quite obvious they already have this implemented (since we all got 1 free name change). I'm really baffled at how having more name changes would be difficult to implement unless they designed their back end in some really bizarre way. Look, people need to stop saying "Whatever Blizzard does I'm sure is right" or "We don't know because we're not Blizzard". Computers aren't magic. There is not magic in this or super secret technology, and there are plenty of people here that can understand the technology side of this. A name change should be a trivial thing to implement. people keep posting to these mythical people who are claiming name changes are hard to implement when i haven't seen a single post that actually says that
The one we're quoting?
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On September 12 2011 15:50 thatsundowner wrote:
people keep posting to these mythical people who are claiming name changes are hard to implement when i haven't seen a single post that actually says that
One of them is in the quote tree. He says it's harder to implement a repeatable name change than a 1 time name change.
There's also the "entitlement" guy who claims we can't know how hard it is.
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On September 12 2011 15:49 fraktoasters wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 15:26 Brotocol wrote:On September 12 2011 15:20 graNite wrote:On September 12 2011 14:59 Sultan.P wrote:
This requires no effort on the part of Blizzard, seriously guys. You can already change your SC2 char name once for free; I'm not computer expert but I imagine all you would have to do is change it to instead of only limited to 1 name change ---> unlimited name changes.
yeah, its harder to implement a one time change than a unlimited change No it's not, that's patently wrong. It's the exact same SQL query. The only addition is the payment system, which they already have, since bnet 2.0 is a storefront. They even already have the field in the database which stores the number of name changes that you have on your account... There is virtually no cost to implementing this. Source: Software engineer I concur with this. It's quite obvious they already have this implemented (since we all got 1 free name change). I'm really baffled at how having more name changes would be difficult to implement unless they designed their back end in some really bizarre way. Look, people need to stop saying "Whatever Blizzard does I'm sure is right" or "We don't know because we're not Blizzard". Computers aren't magic. There is not magic in this or super secret technology, and there are plenty of people here that can understand the technology side of this. A name change should be a trivial thing to implement.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Do you realize just how complicated it is to change your name? Its not like its implemented already. Just the data behind "/dnd" must have been pages long considering how long it took them to implement it. /sarcasm 
The best part is that when they finally do add some basic features (Like the ones that stops you from auto accepting every single invite from every random stranger in the game, which they're adding in patch 1.4) they actually need to run it a month on the ptr to make sure it doesn't bug out
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Wow really?
No clan support is in the works??? Starcraft 2 is supposed to be the ultimate e-sport, but it's built on a piece of crap known as bnet 0.2
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From what I can tell this is for paying to change your name. If this is the case, I don't care. I am not going to pay money for a name change, greedy bastards. If it is free however, then I am all for this. But paying 10bucks to change your name is not worth the money.
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My opinion: A lot of people believe this should be free and that blizzard is "milking" the cow. Imagine if this feature would be free and unlimited ? The internet is already filled with assholes and stream cheaters imagine if they could change character code/portrait/name every day ?
A long time ago I thought blizzard was greedy but they are doing us a favor by not giving every dick on battle.net a chance to spam anonymously
So just make it a once a month or once every 3 months thing, and if you want more you pay.
So fucking easy to do.
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hope this will work out. Still doesnt like the idea of shifting Character code tho. Feel like the name is enough
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Pretty sure there are more important things to fix than implementing name changes...
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The sad truth: I would have to buy a 2nd copy of SC2 just to be allowed to post on US battle.net forums. IMHO that sucks even more than the lack of clan tag support.
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I would be happy if it was just every new season you can rename your character.
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We had the discussion clan internal just yesterday, it's so sad how missing clan support puts up hurdles, but on top of that the missing name change possibility makes people not wear their clantag because they can only change their names once.
I don't understand what Blizzard was thinking in the first place, and for a reason why it would not be allowed I can only come up with the silly Bnet.ID friendslist system.
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On September 12 2011 16:02 Ledcaveman wrote:
Pretty sure there are more important things to fix than implementing name changes...
Name change doesn't really bother me, but no clan support makes me angry.
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On September 12 2011 16:12 kazansky wrote:
We had the discussion clan internal just yesterday, it's so sad how missing clan support puts up hurdles, but on top of that the missing name change possibility makes people not wear their clantag because they can only change their names once.
I don't understand what Blizzard was thinking in the first place, and for a reason why it would not be allowed I can only come up with the silly Bnet.ID friendslist system.
People will cry about it. A year later, blizz adds it. Blizz becomes hero of the community for adding something that they left out on purpose.
You start secretly a fire, then you come rolling in with fire engines. You become hero.
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Yes, i want name change. to pay for it is retarded and it should be a free option to reset it at the end of each season. this way pro players and clans have a way to represent themselves correctly without buying a whole new god damn account, but im sure the sales for sc2 look much prettier if they keep it the way it is -_-
just give us some sort of option at least ffs
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how about something that doesnt cost money.
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On September 12 2011 16:09 blade55555 wrote:
I would be happy if it was just every new season you can rename your character.
That would actually make a tremendous amount of sense. Far too much sense for Blizzard.
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On September 12 2011 12:40 dacthehork wrote:
Steam does it pretty well with STEAM ID
bnet 2.0 has a long way to go though before catching up to bnet 1.0, so maybe in 2020 it will catch up to steam
More like catch up to WarCraft III.
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On September 12 2011 16:16 nitdkim wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 16:12 kazansky wrote:
We had the discussion clan internal just yesterday, it's so sad how missing clan support puts up hurdles, but on top of that the missing name change possibility makes people not wear their clantag because they can only change their names once.
I don't understand what Blizzard was thinking in the first place, and for a reason why it would not be allowed I can only come up with the silly Bnet.ID friendslist system. People will cry about it. A year later, blizz adds it. Blizz becomes hero of the community for adding something that they left out on purpose. You start secretly a fire, then you come rolling in with fire engines. You become hero.
this is also the point I was attempting to make, with this
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=264829#9
beyond all the other stuff about how it won't create more abuse than people already doing it, and that you're inviting the mentality of "pay to grief" into the game, which should never exist in any part of life.
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On September 12 2011 16:21 Fadetowhite wrote:
how about something that doesnt cost money.
Yeah, lets see what Blizzard wants to give you.. may take a while..
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i've given up on blizzard. the stuff they do, it shows they really don't give a fuck about the community. maybe the company has grown so large that they've become like this. everything about bnet is absolute shit. i'm not getting diablo 3 because they just don't treat us right, and i am expecting diablo 3 to be just as bad as what we have now. not like anyone cares, i'm only 1 person and it makes no difference, but hey, that's the same when you vote right.
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On September 12 2011 12:40 dacthehork wrote:
Steam does it pretty well with STEAM ID
bnet 2.0 has a long way to go though before catching up to bnet 1.0, so maybe in 2020 it will catch up to steam
Steam matchmaking is pretty terrible, so...
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On September 12 2011 15:49 fraktoasters wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 15:26 Brotocol wrote:On September 12 2011 15:20 graNite wrote:On September 12 2011 14:59 Sultan.P wrote:
This requires no effort on the part of Blizzard, seriously guys. You can already change your SC2 char name once for free; I'm not computer expert but I imagine all you would have to do is change it to instead of only limited to 1 name change ---> unlimited name changes.
yeah, its harder to implement a one time change than a unlimited change No it's not, that's patently wrong. It's the exact same SQL query. The only addition is the payment system, which they already have, since bnet 2.0 is a storefront. They even already have the field in the database which stores the number of name changes that you have on your account... There is virtually no cost to implementing this. Source: Software engineer I concur with this. It's quite obvious they already have this implemented (since we all got 1 free name change). I'm really baffled at how having more name changes would be difficult to implement unless they designed their back end in some really bizarre way. Look, people need to stop saying "Whatever Blizzard does I'm sure is right" or "We don't know because we're not Blizzard". Computers aren't magic. There is not magic in this or super secret technology, and there are plenty of people here that can understand the technology side of this. A name change should be a trivial thing to implement. Edit: Also this whole thing is really pathetic of Blizzard.
oh man, you would get a kick out of the Foundation series by Isaac Asimov.
Technology brought to religion status and only the "priests" know how to run it, so that wars are only conducted by the religion agreeing to maintain and run the space fleet ships. epic stuff. Prelude to Foundation was my first book in that series, right before high school. Loved it.
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This is so utterly stupid, how can they say that this is not a feature asked by the community? It really looks like there is absolutely nobody working on improving battle.net, it took a year to have a dnd mode (and we don't even know if it will work), the chat system is ridiculously bad still, no name change (the already have implemented this, all they have to do is LET US PAY FFS????), no tournament support, no clan support etc. Seriously, the balance team is doing an OK job, but the bnet team has made a shitty product to start with, and can't improve it >_<.
(sorry for ranting, but seeing that "they are not working on it because there is no demand" makes me mad, and it's something that would get them money ffs ...
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because they will claim, like they have in the passed, that there is a silent majority out there and the forums are simply a vocal minority, and this justifies their ignoring it. Same with lan feature although people from all parts of the world and life, especially military, have asked for lan.
Remember, its run by activision. The old blizzard would've put lan in there. Activision doesn't want that.
Too bad, but the end result is you have to stop buying from blizzard. you don't drink from a well once its been poisoned do you?
Oh, and if this gets implemented on a pay to change basis with no free ability some way, I will simply not use the service. I won't grit my teeth and bear it. I'll sell my account and buy a new one if it comes down to actually needing a new name. Just like pros have done with smurf accounts that get revealed.
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On September 12 2011 14:09 Serpico wrote:
lol people are begging to give blizzard their money just for a name change. Here we go.
You can't win against Blizzard and they know this.
Blizzard: Lolololol what you guys going to do if you don't provide name changes?
People: Well I guess we'll buy Diablo 3 and instead buy another SC2 account to change our name.
Though no really I think this is an okay idea (paid name changes) but however I think it is silly that Blizzard thinks no one wants this because people aren't being loud enough.
I'm partially a Blizzard fanboy (Partially because I side with KeSPA against Blizzard so I'm a reasonable "fanboy") mainly because of their modding/editor support for SC1, WC3, and SC2.
It's easy to use (anyone can mod the games real easy. All editors are easy to use. WC3 is easy to learn but hard to master. SC2 hard to learn but a bit easier to master since the data editor is now a lot more capable of doing more). Basically it means anyone with a decent amount of time can make any game they want and it doesn't always have to be an RTS.
Valve same thing, kudos to them.
Point is I think I've got my moneys worth from all Blizzard games which is why I don't mind these extra paid stuff because I think their games are good and their modding support is good.
Also nowadays games are more expensive to make (well ones with modern graphics and assets like SC2) than before. Plus more and more people are going/sticking with console gaming than PC (which is why each yearly Call of Duty game sells more than SC2 so far[no seriously CoD MW2[2009], CoD Black Ops[2010], and probably CoD MW3 all have sold more than SC2 and they come out once a year. This is the same with Guitar Hero and other yearly stuff by guess who... Activision).
Bobby Kotick (put in charge by Blizzard and Activisons master "Vivendi Games") probably went like:
"Hmm okay SC2 is okay in terms of sales but hey it still hasn't compared to <insert yearly CoD or Guitar Hero game>. Do something about it Blizzard or else... everyone will get fired like those two CoD MW2 developers who wanted a raise! Or worst... You could all end up like Blizzard East [Yes there was a "Blizzard East". No I'm not confusing this with "Blizzard North". Turns out they sacked "Blizzard East" and hid the evidence that "Blizzard East" even existed." (actually I doubt that but this is just for the lulz right >.>).
As for the whole Steam/Valve thing - + Show Spoiler +Well it started off with WON where there was no practical way to link a person's name to their account/CD Key (Valve could set it up so you had to register your CD key to an online website with an account name then lock that account somehow for all games but no one did that back then >.>).
They kept it that way.
With Blizzard they always stuck with one account - No name change (In SC1 and WC3 all you could do was create a new account).
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This isn't Starcraft 1 and this isn't Diablo where you can just make throwaway accounts, you pay $60 for a game and you're stuck with one username forever? Come on, what year is it? There is NO reason to not have name changing service. Furthermore, it should be allowed to have a free name change every so often (once every three months?).
As far as pricing goes I cannot see justification for it being more than $5. These are fee's that belong in free games, not WoW and not SC2. I understand there are reasons for restrictions to be put on these kinds of services, but it is clear they are trying to make a profit off them. They aren't providing any new content and these services require virtually no oversight.
I guess what I'm trying to say is of course the name change feature should be in SC2 and the reason not many people have made a fuss about it is because Blizzard fricken' promised us it was coming 'soon'.
Finally, I don't think people changing teams should have to repurchase SC at full price every time they need a name change.
Edit: I do want to add something: If their reason for not adding this feature is because people haven't been vocal enough, then what about features they have been vocal about? *cough* LAN *caugh* -OR- what about the features that were added that nobody gives a crap about? *cough* Facebook integration *cough* I'm probably being way, way too critical. Blizzard is still putting out good products and I know how hard they work and care about the game; I guess I'm being critical cause I want the game to grow into it's full potential.
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backwards ass company. "Telling people its coming soon but not even working on it".
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This is silly. I didn't even know that you couldn't do it already. Obviously they can change the name easily (1 free already). I would be happy to pay if I wanted to change my name. I also think clan support should be mandatory.
BLIZZARD! Use this money to hire a person or two to add features like... group replays.... Please!
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Let's show support for watching replays with friends.
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I'm fine with having to pay for a name change, because otherwise it could be abused and personally I wouldn't change my name. But I think clan tags should be free.
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you already had a free name change, a paid one would be fine. what is it with people and this desire to be able to change your name all the time? add a free clan tag, but i dont see the need to be able to change your name every two days
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On September 12 2011 12:30 Allied wrote:
I support this but what a backwards ass company
Yeah what a backward ass company, what kind of idiots perfect the game before the superfluous cosmetics!!!
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Would you make a poll asking if people want name change, please?
I personally feel that 1 namechange is right, and no more. Pros should be able to change their name if talking to blizzard, but casual players shouldn't be allowed to change their name too easily... I know a bunch of trolls willing to have their name changed to start trolling again...
I feel that there are better improvements we could be asking for, for example the above mentioned "watching replays with friends"
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On September 12 2011 13:00 cHaNg-sTa wrote:
Can we watch replays with our friends? I mean.. seriously. This is one of the most useful functions of the original bnet and we can't use it for bnet 2.0... doesn't make any sense.
Just had to quote this. I miss it so much!
And paying blizzard to change our name? This should be free and should've been there from day 1!
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On September 12 2011 17:43 Kielbasa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 12:30 Allied wrote:
I support this but what a backwards ass company Yeah what a backward ass company, what kind of idiots perfect the game before the superfluous cosmetics!!!
u mad? they have different development teams for every aspect of the game. BNET 2.0 team failed miserably. They could've easily hired 1 guy who would make all these things possible at launch, but they didn't. They didn't even put chat channels on release. What kind of perfection is that?
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On September 12 2011 17:49 inTheMood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 13:00 cHaNg-sTa wrote:
Can we watch replays with our friends? I mean.. seriously. This is one of the most useful functions of the original bnet and we can't use it for bnet 2.0... doesn't make any sense. Just had to quote this. I miss it so much! And paying blizzard to change our name? This should be free and should've been there from day 1!
I agree with both of your opinions (or both opinions you support).
But to keep it to the OP, I feel for pros that switch Clans and need to make the change. This should be a no brainier, and if all it takes is us to way we want it. Then I support the call to action.
Blizz, please add paid name change.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
So retarded you cant sign from EU -_-
Someone did copy it across to EU i think but still -_-
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
On September 12 2011 17:49 inTheMood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 13:00 cHaNg-sTa wrote:
Can we watch replays with our friends? I mean.. seriously. This is one of the most useful functions of the original bnet and we can't use it for bnet 2.0... doesn't make any sense. Just had to quote this. I miss it so much! And paying blizzard to change our name? This should be free and should've been there from day 1!
That would be awesome to bring back, thinking of how easy must be for a few pro's to analyze eachother better. Plus casting wise (Thinking of TL opens) if they are both in the same replay will be no one on the wrong time or anything
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WTF?????
who the fuck wants paid name change?
should be free and maybe limited to one change into 2 month or so...
...but defenetly not paid!
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Title is inaccurate. A guy in CS said that they did it for WoW when people asked for it. People have been asking for it for a year now - its a pretty obvious addition considering you can only have one account.
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EPT
