On August 31 2011 12:19 Bobgrimly wrote: If the kid died I wouldn't blame the shooter. I would blame the kids parents. My parents taught me right from wrong. If you are stupid enough to discuss whether or not the shooter over reacted the first thing you should be discussing is how a child is not taught that throwing rocks at a moving vehicle can result in damage to not only property but to the drivers and occupants of said vehicles. Make excuses for the kid all you like. Because he is a kid is no excuse. What he was doing had potentially lethal consequences.
Lets all laugh at the dumb kid and enjoy this as it should be enjoyed. A relatively cheap lesson he learned without the help of his obviously useless parents.
are you an anarchocapitalist this is a serious qustion
Nope. Just believe that if you are foolish enough to analyse a random event and start making condemnations then you should start at the beginning. The kid obviously doesn't respect people or their property. Something my parents taught me.
So blame the parents. If the kid wasn't being a little prick I doubt anyone would be laughing at the fact he was shot. Had he been minding his own business and was shot in the manner he was most people would be very eager to form a lynch mob for the shooter. So the problem started with the kid and his lack of respect. Hence its funny he got hurt. Stop trying to be all upset over something that is hilarious karma as many people have pointed out.
On August 31 2011 12:19 Bobgrimly wrote: If the kid died I wouldn't blame the shooter. I would blame the kids parents. My parents taught me right from wrong. If you are stupid enough to discuss whether or not the shooter over reacted the first thing you should be discussing is how a child is not taught that throwing rocks at a moving vehicle can result in damage to not only property but to the drivers and occupants of said vehicles. Make excuses for the kid all you like. Because he is a kid is no excuse. What he was doing had potentially lethal consequences.
Lets all laugh at the dumb kid and enjoy this as it should be enjoyed. A relatively cheap lesson he learned without the help of his obviously useless parents.
are you an anarchocapitalist this is a serious qustion
Nope. Just believe that if you are foolish enough to analyse a random event and start making condemnations then you should start at the beginning. The kid obviously doesn't respect people or their property. Something my parents taught me.
So blame the parents. If the kid wasn't being a little prick I doubt anyone would be laughing at the fact he was shot. Had he been minding his own business and was shot in the manner he was most people would be very eager to form a lynch mob for the shooter. So the problem started with the kid and his lack of respect. Hence its funny he got hurt. Stop trying to be all upset over something that is hilarious karma as many people have pointed out.
you should look into it because what you're advocating is pretty much lawless vigilante justice
In a sense, stories like these would spread to thousands of would-be tyrants that may decide to hurl a rock may choose not to. That rock would've smote that guy...and possibly cause another accident upon being struck...
It'd be a different story if the child was doing something else before being shot.
On August 31 2011 12:22 Gamegene wrote: "Oh yeah you shouldn't throw rocks but if you see some other kid throwing a rock start aiming potentially lethal projectiles at him and hope you don't kill him!"
If you see another kid throwing a rock start aiming potentially lethal projectiles at him?
Potentially lethal projects, as in rocks?
You're cute. But I wouldn't consider rocks to be "projects".
But if you're fine with the idea, I'm sure I could find someone willing to shoot you with a crossbow the first time you do something that endangers a life, like speeding, smoking in public, having the flu and going outside.. etc.
On August 31 2011 12:31 SpectralFremen wrote: If some kids was chucking rocks at my car whilst I was driving, being shot by a crossbow would be pleasant compared to what I'd do to him.
On August 31 2011 12:22 Gamegene wrote: "Oh yeah you shouldn't throw rocks but if you see some other kid throwing a rock start aiming potentially lethal projectiles at him and hope you don't kill him!"
If you see another kid throwing a rock start aiming potentially lethal projectiles at him?
Potentially lethal projects, as in rocks?
You're cute. But I wouldn't consider rocks to be "projects".
But if you're fine with the idea, I'm sure I could find someone willing to shoot you with a crossbow the first time you do something that endangers a life, like speeding, smoking in public, having the flu and going outside.. etc.
I meant projectiles obviously.
I've clearly stated three times now that shooting him with a crossbow was a bit far but the kid definitely deserved to be punished. Get off my nuts.
And as for your examples of endangering other's lives: I've never sped, I don't smoke and I stay at home when I have the flu so more examples please.
I think if he killed him that should be excessive use of force and murder or man slaughter, given that the kid would most likely be easily disabled by non-lethal force, but that every citizen should have the authority to attempt to use rational due force to subdue anyone who is a lethal threat to others, taking what someone else posted that throwing rocks at moving cars can be lethal, though I suppose that would depend on the trajectory relative to the velocity of the car. I suspect there are many people who let their emotions take over whenever something happens to a little kid, but general rules need to apply in law and every citizen deserves the right to self defense, as well as the right to defend others rationally and with witnesses present.
God how do you shoot someone in a car with a crossbow. Better yet what the fuck are you doing driving around with a crossbow. Poor kid though, his parents probably never taught him right.
On August 31 2011 12:19 Bobgrimly wrote: If the kid died I wouldn't blame the shooter. I would blame the kids parents. My parents taught me right from wrong. If you are stupid enough to discuss whether or not the shooter over reacted the first thing you should be discussing is how a child is not taught that throwing rocks at a moving vehicle can result in damage to not only property but to the drivers and occupants of said vehicles. Make excuses for the kid all you like. Because he is a kid is no excuse. What he was doing had potentially lethal consequences.
Lets all laugh at the dumb kid and enjoy this as it should be enjoyed. A relatively cheap lesson he learned without the help of his obviously useless parents.
are you an anarchocapitalist this is a serious qustion
Nope. Just believe that if you are foolish enough to analyse a random event and start making condemnations then you should start at the beginning. The kid obviously doesn't respect people or their property. Something my parents taught me.
So blame the parents. If the kid wasn't being a little prick I doubt anyone would be laughing at the fact he was shot. Had he been minding his own business and was shot in the manner he was most people would be very eager to form a lynch mob for the shooter. So the problem started with the kid and his lack of respect. Hence its funny he got hurt. Stop trying to be all upset over something that is hilarious karma as many people have pointed out.
you should look into it because what you're advocating is pretty much lawless vigilante justice
You are a mindless troll but I am bored so I will bite. If you had reading comprehension past a 2 year old level you might be able to see I am pointing out that his parenting led to his current hospitalisation and perhaps if people taught their children respect for other people and their property, crime would be non existent. Unfortunately there are many bad parents so I guess its ok for kids to act like a delinquent and then for you to get upset when they suffer for their delinquency.
Just remember next time you want to throw rocks... someone might have a crossbow or worse... a GUN. Tell your kids!!!
On August 31 2011 11:32 brain_ wrote: Am I a bad person for laughing pretty hard at this story?
I mean sure, shooting someone with a potentially lethal weapon when they throw rocks at your car is an overreaction. But at the same time, I love to see little shits get what is coming to them.
I believe you underestimate the weight of the kid's actions. A rock hitting someone in a fast moving vehicle can do VERY serious damage. I vaguely remember a case in Hungary where some kids were throwing rocks at a train, killing a passenger. Considering this is the United States, it might fit the definition of self defense.
On August 31 2011 11:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote: he should have called the cops and reported that the kid was shooting rocks