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poda
Profile Joined July 2011
14 Posts
August 25 2011 11:02 GMT
#1
I made a post earlier asking for general ideas on a problem i am having. I posted this in strategy as it is a strategy issue. I didnt post any replays as its not one specific thing but just a general observation i wanted feedback or advice on or hear others stories. I got a warning and thread locked. I dont under stand why. I also got one usefull response, and also 3 that i can only describe as rude and tbh what im finding typical of the sc2 community. the more i follow and get involved in this game and community the mroe dispointed i get.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
August 25 2011 11:03 GMT
#2
Read this post, it should answer all your questions....

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=210370
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 25 2011 11:03 GMT
#3
theres a thread for your problems

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=86434&currentpage=36
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Scrimpton
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom465 Posts
August 25 2011 11:05 GMT
#4
Welcome to TL, where the trolls are polite and the mods are rude
Forgive me, i must goosestep towards a better thread now.
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poda
Profile Joined July 2011
14 Posts
August 25 2011 11:12 GMT
#5
Can anyone suggest a more helpful and less rude and more help full site for people that are not already a progamer?
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 25 2011 11:15 GMT
#6
On August 25 2011 20:12 poda wrote:
Can anyone suggest a more helpful and less rude and more help full site for people that are not already a progamer?

Answer is : there is none.

If you want to be flamed to hell, there are the blizzard forums. Otherwise, teamliquid is the best/mannered community and it is why your thread was closed, you shouldnt post without respecting the rules (and the other people by the same occasion).
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
August 25 2011 11:17 GMT
#7
There aren't plenty of threads that can help you. The bottom line is, if you're not willing to go search for all that information, why should we help?
poda
Profile Joined July 2011
14 Posts
August 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#8
If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED

this makes me feel like i cant post unless i am already peefect?

If this site is the best and best mannered then i feel bad for sc2 community
Match
Profile Joined January 2011
215 Posts
August 25 2011 11:21 GMT
#9
On August 25 2011 20:18 poda wrote:
If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED

this makes me feel like i cant post unless i am already peefect?

If this site is the best and best mannered then i feel bad for sc2 community

Uh. He means flaws like if you float like 3k minerals 5 minutes in or lose 50 marines to 3 banelings, macro and micro mistakes respectively. You don't have to be anywhere near perfect.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 25 2011 11:22 GMT
#10
On August 25 2011 20:18 poda wrote:
If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED

this makes me feel like i cant post unless i am already peefect?

If this site is the best and best mannered then i feel bad for sc2 community

It's one of the best community in gaming in general you know, most other competitive community are way more rude than that and far less polite.

You do know that you are insulting us right now yea? And yet we are not flaming you.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 11:32:05
August 25 2011 11:23 GMT
#11
If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED

this makes me feel like i cant post unless i am already peefect?

If this site is the best and best mannered then i feel bad for sc2 community


No, there's just been a lot of crap threads and posts and TL is really trying to clean it up. One of the biggest helpful things a person can do is lurk a bunch on a forum, get a feel for the culture, figure out what is considered acceptable, and then post.

Honestly, there's a wealth of information and helpful people on here. But if you're creating a new thread, some effort needs to go in- replay, analysis and some sort of indication that you've done your homework. The alternative is TL becomes a yahoo answers with varying degrees of quality

edit:
Also, typically issues with threads being closed goes into website feedback aka:The why was my thread closed
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Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
August 25 2011 11:24 GMT
#12
On August 25 2011 20:18 poda wrote:
If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED

this makes me feel like i cant post unless i am already peefect?

If this site is the best and best mannered then i feel bad for sc2 community

Dude.... Quote the whole quote: It refers to threads where people post replays in order to get help, because they don't know what they did wrong (the H tag). If it is obvious what he did wrong tho there is no need to post such a thread, because all peole will only refer to that.
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TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
August 25 2011 11:24 GMT
#13
On August 25 2011 20:18 poda wrote:
If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED

this makes me feel like i cant post unless i am already peefect?

If this site is the best and best mannered then i feel bad for sc2 community


Its just a remark , nobody expects you to play perfectly. But if you are floating 4 diggers resources and ask how to stop a 1-2 base push for example , you are just wasting people's time. If you get what its meant.
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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 11:25:19
August 25 2011 11:24 GMT
#14
On August 25 2011 20:18 poda wrote:
If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED

this makes me feel like i cant post unless i am already peefect?

If this site is the best and best mannered then i feel bad for sc2 community


You're misunderstanding. If you post a thread saying "How can I possibly hold off strategy X, I've tried everything and I just don't know what to do" and then people look at your post and there's like a 5 minute period where you produced no harvesters and you haven't noticed, you've prodbably not put enough effort in to your OP. The rules are there to ensure people put effort in to their posts, and don't just crap up the forums with stuff that 2 minutes of their own time could sort.

That said, it seems you're being intentionally passive aggressive towards the staff and this site, and this thread probably belongs in website feedback so I'm not sure how useful my post will be.

In general, making sure you've put your own time in before asking for the time of others, is the important issue.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 25 2011 11:26 GMT
#15
On August 25 2011 20:21 Match wrote:
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On August 25 2011 20:18 poda wrote:
If I watch your replay and there are obvious flaws (macro, micro, etc.) in your game that contribute to your loss, you will be BANNED

this makes me feel like i cant post unless i am already peefect?

If this site is the best and best mannered then i feel bad for sc2 community

Uh. He means flaws like if you float like 3k minerals 5 minutes in or lose 50 marines to 3 banelings, macro and micro mistakes respectively. You don't have to be anywhere near perfect.


Besides, if you have over ~500 minerals per base your macro can improve leaps and bounds without any strategical thoughts at all, and that would help your game tremendously regardless of which opener and overarching plan you can have.

And very rarely does the micro thing come into play so long as you have decent macro.

Basically the rules are in place so that the strategy forum isn't 389751329487132 threads with players who don't need strategy help, rather an hour of practice vs a computer to keep their money lower.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 25 2011 11:39 GMT
#16
thread police is everywhere sorry. they will be pretty unpolite to you if you make a mistake when opening a thread, but that will allow you to fix those issues before a mod sees it and closes it. Of course there are nicer ways to tell you that there already is a thread of this topic or that your thread is against the rules. But people get more attention if they are a bit more offensive or less nice. (write a please and you will be ignored). And well first posters what do you expect they want to be fast, they want to be read, they want attention. So they will post on the first flaw they see and move on.

often on forums you will see: "nice" as the first post and if they are polite "comment is coming up"

you will find some people in this forum that will provide you really good help. If you want a forum without trolls i haven't seen one till now, that has a registered user count above 20.
poda
Profile Joined July 2011
14 Posts
August 25 2011 11:47 GMT
#17
I thank you all for you responses, you have gave me alot of confidence about this community. as well as a very nice pm i got from a mod. I do apologise for offending anything that isnt a rude troll. I guess i have thrown a blanket over every one after a few bad experinces and reading a few threads.
Valckrie
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom533 Posts
August 25 2011 11:47 GMT
#18
Taken directly from the sticky Purge thread:

Strategy Forum Guidelines: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113479
Simply Questions Simple Answers: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187808
How to Analyze Replays: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195389
Recommended Threads: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192233
How to Improve: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208343
Search Function: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php
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The reason why your thread will get closed if you post a replay with obvious flaws is because you haven't been bothered to analyze it yourself first (use above threads).
Fear is a 4 letter word. Why be afraid?
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 11:51:29
August 25 2011 11:50 GMT
#19
On August 25 2011 20:02 poda wrote:
I made a post earlier asking for general ideas on a problem i am having. I posted this in strategy as it is a strategy issue. I didnt post any replays as its not one specific thing but just a general observation i wanted feedback or advice on or hear others stories. I got a warning and thread locked. I dont under stand why. I also got one usefull response, and also 3 that i can only describe as rude and tbh what im finding typical of the sc2 community. the more i follow and get involved in this game and community the mroe dispointed i get.


I'm glad you have changed your thoughts from what you wrote on the first post because the TL community is really the best and most passionate eSports community ever. EVER!
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FranzP
Profile Joined November 2010
France270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 11:52:40
August 25 2011 11:52 GMT
#20
On August 25 2011 20:47 poda wrote:
I thank you all for you responses, you have gave me alot of confidence about this community. as well as a very nice pm i got from a mod. I do apologise for offending anything that isnt a rude troll. I guess i have thrown a blanket over every one after a few bad experinces and reading a few threads.


I sent the PM. I did not say I was a mod.
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