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Sareth
Germany1008 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:04 features wrote: Exactly what I said, This could seriously be HotS related..... Maybe EG has been playing a Beta build, with a possible showmatch at Gamescom? Oh this would be so awesome... official start of the gamescom would be tomorrow, but such an event would gather extremly much attentieon. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:08 Abrafred wrote: That is 100% true. Any 20-25year old with no responsibilities or family to feed can make a living with 15-20k dollars a year IN FRICKIN NIGERIA. Try that in the US and you will be off to flippin burgers in no time. It depends on where you live. In sweden you can easily live in a 1 room apartment, pay your bills and still have a small buffert on that kind of money. It's not great but it works. | ||
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SecondChance
Australia603 Posts
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DerNebel
Denmark648 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:09 Grimsong wrote: Right? People saying 15-20k per year is a lot of money... lol... come on. We aren't 15 here. It is not a lot. It is enough to pay rent, food and public transport + a bit extra for a young man with no family to take care of. | ||
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KroN
Germany438 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:10 SecondChance wrote: Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality. Open your eyes, look up to the skies and seeee. I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy. Because I'm easy come, easy go a little high, little low. Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me queen rocks | ||
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ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:11 DerNebel wrote: It is not a lot. It is enough to pay rent, food and public transport + a bit extra for a young man with no family to take care of. You just described the typical pro gamer I think. | ||
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MadMockers
Australia11 Posts
Put a gun against his head Pulled my trigger now he's dead Mama, life had just begun But now I've gone and thrown it all away Mama Didn't mean to make you cry If I'm not back again this time tomorrow Carry on, carry on As if nothing really matters | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:08 Abrafred wrote: That is 100% true. Any 20-25year old with no responsibilities or family to feed can make a living with 15-20k dollars a year IN FRICKIN NIGERIA. Try that in the US and you will be off to flippin burgers in no time. What would you be spending your salary on with no family to feed? If you live in team house that is covered, Im not sure if foodis covered but if it isnt then thats about only thing you would have to pay for and if it is covered then thas almost every nessecity. | ||
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jelle
Denmark88 Posts
15k a year, isn't something to make a career out of.. Let's say our guys do have plans of somekind of future, how should they ever afford stuff like a car, a house, providing for a family, if they should be able to feed their own personal needs plus saving up, off of 15k a year... Get real.. In my honest opinion, before a progamer can call he's career anything near steady, we need to be atleast around 30k a year, and thats everything included, like sponsor deals, tournament earnings, etc. etc.. | ||
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GruGloG
Netherlands114 Posts
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Drxz
Australia115 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:08 Abrafred wrote: That is 100% true. Any 20-25year old with no responsibilities or family to feed can make a living with 15-20k dollars a year IN FRICKIN NIGERIA. Try that in the US and you will be off to flippin burgers in no time. I am a 22 year old on between 75,000 and 100,000 AUD a year, I have no responsibilities, and that is not including my travel bonuses. its really not that much money its more about how well someone manages the money they are given, Also to those people who say something along the lines of "in other countries people live on less" that might be true but you would have to see what the average income of the country is compared to the cost of what is considered staple in that country because I can say right now out of every country I have been to that Australia has one of the most expensive staple foods and eating out costs. I would have to say that its pretty much just Russia(Moscow) which is more expensive. | ||
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Lordwar
Finland243 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:09 KroN wrote: if you have to pay rent, a car, food, general bills - no if you get provided with a house and get food and can spend everything for some shit - its okay that is the situation for those pro gamers in training houses, their salaries just accumulate in their bank accounts | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:06 Yaotzin wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States Literally millions of people live on *under* 15k a year. And that's in the world's richest country. Don't even get me started on poor countries. Some Americans are so goddamn spoiled. The minimum wage in the USA is far lower than in other developed nations like Australia, there's a massive gap between the rich and poor over there. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10834 Posts
Then there comes car insurance. Health Insurance. Other Insurance. Telephone/Inet-Bills FOOD . . . Seriously, people have no clue how expensive live is. | ||
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Artifice
United States523 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:11 DerNebel wrote: It is not a lot. It is enough to pay rent, food and public transport + a bit extra for a young man with no family to take care of. lol public transport. | ||
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Snipershot
United Kingdom59 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Rustug
1488 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:04 Grimsong wrote: 15k is trash per year. What are you going to do with 15k a year? That's roughly 1250 a month. That's definitely not enough to live alone, have a car payment, pay car insurance. pay phone bills, things like that. I can see what you're saying about pro gamers not making very much, but when you take a step back and look at what making 15k a year really means, you can't help but realize why someone would want to jump from a 15k a year salary to a 30-40k a year salary. If your living rent-free in a team house (food and drink included), your travel expenses are payed for and you get to keep all you winnings.. Sounds like a pretty good deal for a 20 something year old without regular education or job experience. I used to work with people in the entertainment industry and you would be surprised at how low their base income was, but all the supplements (free-stuff) made up for that in tenfold. | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:05 Lordwar wrote: 15-20k year is fucking alot of money for 20-25year old with no responsibilities or family to feed. QFT | ||
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
On August 16 2011 23:11 DerNebel wrote: It is not a lot. It is enough to pay rent, food and public transport + a bit extra for a young man with no family to take care of. All of which is payed for by the team (pro-gaming house duh?) 15-20k is nothing for anyone with a normal job. But don't underestimate how much of your money goes toward rent and food. | ||
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