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TheIc3man
Profile Joined February 2011
19 Posts
July 23 2011 18:12 GMT
#41
Actually if he made a mistake about the schedulling of a lesson, u got a point there.
I see a lot of people giving him reviews without knowing what kind of coach is he.
at the end everybody jumps here to said he is a bad coach but nobody actually took a lesson from him.
we win a pyloon at a time!
Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
July 23 2011 18:16 GMT
#42
SUE him for your lost time, lol joke. I think a thread like this is already punishment enough.
Dess.JadeFalcon
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
July 23 2011 18:18 GMT
#43
On July 24 2011 03:12 TheIc3man wrote:
Actually if he made a mistake about the schedulling of a lesson, u got a point there.
I see a lot of people giving him reviews without knowing what kind of coach is he.
at the end everybody jumps here to said he is a bad coach but nobody actually took a lesson from him.


While this might be the case, he also yells at everyone in his stream a lot. If people ask (what i think tend to be legit questions, like, "why did you do this?") he bans them and calls them idiots etc.

I just feel like he's kind of an abrasive person in general
moose...indian
n0btozz
Profile Joined January 2011
Iceland115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 18:22:01
July 23 2011 18:19 GMT
#44
Lol, Slaughtah, I can post the whole chat log here, but that´s just something you don´t do.

I showed him respect, was cool with wasting 40 mins for nothing, then wasting 1.5 hours more the next day, well, that would make most of us unhappy with the service we got.

Then he doesn´t even want to make things right by giving me a little discount, because it´s simply a principle not to pay fully for something when it´s broken or the store/service provider has fucked you over hard. I´m simply not going to bend over for him after he fucked me over twice and pay up top for the service. A sorry means just about nothing when he ain´t even willing to maybe give me a 30% off on his lessons, even if i´m still buying 2 hours from him (not just 1). I felt I was giving him a pretty good deal by still wanting to buy from him.

That´s pretty simple. Now I was very mannered, but when he saw that there was a TL thread he became angry, raging at me instead of just learning his lesson and not doing the same mistake again.

A "i´m not interested - sorry" into "offline" as a reply to me, is pretty much bad. And then going and being angry at me for his own mistakes, makes him look even less professional.
http://www.x2coaching.com/
BthreeN
Profile Joined December 2010
United States48 Posts
July 23 2011 18:21 GMT
#45
On July 24 2011 03:12 TheIc3man wrote:
Actually if he made a mistake about the schedulling of a lesson, u got a point there.
I see a lot of people giving him reviews without knowing what kind of coach is he.
at the end everybody jumps here to said he is a bad coach but nobody actually took a lesson from him.


He streams his lessons as far as I know. I'm sure the majority of people that watch his stream know what his coaching is like.

Can you judge his professionalism from one potential customer? Lets find out.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I prefer creep.
t0ab
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden39 Posts
July 23 2011 18:26 GMT
#46
On July 24 2011 03:18 reneg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 03:12 TheIc3man wrote:
Actually if he made a mistake about the schedulling of a lesson, u got a point there.
I see a lot of people giving him reviews without knowing what kind of coach is he.
at the end everybody jumps here to said he is a bad coach but nobody actually took a lesson from him.


While this might be the case, he also yells at everyone in his stream a lot. If people ask (what i think tend to be legit questions, like, "why did you do this?") he bans them and calls them idiots etc.

I just feel like he's kind of an abrasive person in general



A little bit sensitive are we now?
MinKi
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)151 Posts
July 23 2011 18:56 GMT
#47
On July 24 2011 03:26 t0ab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 03:18 reneg wrote:
On July 24 2011 03:12 TheIc3man wrote:
Actually if he made a mistake about the schedulling of a lesson, u got a point there.
I see a lot of people giving him reviews without knowing what kind of coach is he.
at the end everybody jumps here to said he is a bad coach but nobody actually took a lesson from him.


While this might be the case, he also yells at everyone in his stream a lot. If people ask (what i think tend to be legit questions, like, "why did you do this?") he bans them and calls them idiots etc.

I just feel like he's kind of an abrasive person in general



A little bit sensitive are we now?

shut up stupid

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"I'm a starcraft jock. I'm not a nerd" - Artosis
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
July 23 2011 19:10 GMT
#48
On July 24 2011 03:26 t0ab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 03:18 reneg wrote:
On July 24 2011 03:12 TheIc3man wrote:
Actually if he made a mistake about the schedulling of a lesson, u got a point there.
I see a lot of people giving him reviews without knowing what kind of coach is he.
at the end everybody jumps here to said he is a bad coach but nobody actually took a lesson from him.


While this might be the case, he also yells at everyone in his stream a lot. If people ask (what i think tend to be legit questions, like, "why did you do this?") he bans them and calls them idiots etc.

I just feel like he's kind of an abrasive person in general



A little bit sensitive are we now?

I mean, he didn't call me "fucking retarded," i just noticed it, and thought it was a little hypersensitive of him, when someone asked him why he didn't build an extra cannon.

All i was saying was my opinion of him, which is that he was abrasive and hot headed.

That's it.
moose...indian
Attero
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada271 Posts
July 23 2011 19:10 GMT
#49
Hey hey hey. I am not a coach on gosucoaching. Desrow has his moments when he's in a bad mood but other than that he's usually a nice guy. In terms of myself, I coach at 20$/hr at the moment and I respect nony, just disagree with a lot of his strategies. ^^
Retired SC2 Professional | The Beaver Show | twitch.tv/OmniAttero
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
July 23 2011 19:18 GMT
#50
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=240438

He's not a nice guy, so far from it, a nice guy would respect other people, he shows no respect to other sc2 vets, he use every chance he have to try to improve his own image at the expense of others.
all his replay packs he ever posted doesn't contain any games of him getting his ass raped by the same players he brags about beating. Just because those players have a reputation to protect and doesn't wanna sink to desrow's level, I on the other hand just another nobody, I don't have that restriction, and I will bash desrow not for all other sc2 vets he has wronged, i'm just doing this for my own entertainment.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 19:31:33
July 23 2011 19:27 GMT
#51
For what it's worth Incontrol while having a pretty full schedule will probably do some pretty good coaching with you.

He always does a good consistant job with helpful advice.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
July 23 2011 19:32 GMT
#52
On July 24 2011 04:10 Attero wrote:
Hey hey hey. I am not a coach on gosucoaching. Desrow has his moments when he's in a bad mood but other than that he's usually a nice guy. In terms of myself, I coach at 20$/hr at the moment and I respect nony, just disagree with a lot of his strategies. ^^


What good does it the wronged student to know that desrow supposedly is "usually a nice guy"? Certain kinds of behavior are simply inexcusable.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
July 23 2011 21:46 GMT
#53
I have to admit not showing up on two consecutive scheduled coaching sessions is very unprofessional. This rarely happens and if it does happens I contact my student in advance if there is a tournament or if I am unable to attend.I had a hectic schedule last week and ended up not showing up on day 2.

I agree that the OP should have been compensated for my mistakes but I was not interested in bargaining at that time. I wanted to focus on practice and it impaired my judgement. I realize now I was being foolish for not even considering to offer him a deal and I should of at least thought about it before answering him.

n0btozz Feel free to message me anytime on Skype and I will gladly schedule you in for 2 free hours of coaching. Once again, sorry for the troubles.
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
July 23 2011 21:49 GMT
#54
On July 24 2011 02:42 Torte de Lini wrote:
Get rid of the Combat-EX videos please, no one cares about him.


GM players doing free videos is news, regardless of how douchey said GM player is.
Calm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada380 Posts
July 23 2011 21:52 GMT
#55
On July 24 2011 06:49 Cassel_Castle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 02:42 Torte de Lini wrote:
Get rid of the Combat-EX videos please, no one cares about him.


GM players doing free videos is news, regardless of how douchey said GM player is.


With all due respect, Torte is right. Merely mentioning it is advertising that he doesn't deserve. Sorry for my comment earlier, I legitimately thought it was in reference to his BW videos. Enough talking about it though XD
n0btozz
Profile Joined January 2011
Iceland115 Posts
July 23 2011 21:52 GMT
#56
Appology accepted man, a "bigger man" for making one. Most people would not have admitted they treated someone wrong on the internet and just have said "fuck him", and mistakes can happen.

Really shows character from desrow, I guess I was wrong about him being some mega douche, at least this is not something a mega douche would have done Will do and really happy to see it ending like this.
http://www.x2coaching.com/
FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
July 23 2011 21:53 GMT
#57
The elusive diamond/plat league, where only bloggers reside...

Glad to see desrow post though. I don't really follow SC2 that much, but I'm glad he made an effort to settle things, even if it started very badly.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
July 23 2011 21:56 GMT
#58
Stick with it OP. Desrow is worth it, after all he did beat Idra twice.

Once in a macro game: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=240438
and once a cheese game: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=234311

That means he's mastered a multitude of styles, and uses them effectively to take down pros such as Idra. Definitely pursue his coaching. Additionally I've heard he's quite humble and rarely talks badly about other people. If you need a light hearted coach that has mastered multiple styles to take down one of the best players in the scene, Desrow is for you!
n0btozz
Profile Joined January 2011
Iceland115 Posts
July 23 2011 22:01 GMT
#59
seiferoth, are you a Desrow billboard? Sounded like a cheesy commercial on tv hehe

"If you need a light hearted coach that has mastered multiple styles to take down one of the best players in the scene, Desrow is for you! Just call 555-22-4444-6000 and order your copy of the Desrow TODAY!"
http://www.x2coaching.com/
DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 22:36:11
July 23 2011 22:35 GMT
#60
On July 24 2011 07:01 n0btozz wrote:
seiferoth, are you a Desrow billboard? Sounded like a cheesy commercial on tv hehe

"If you need a light hearted coach that has mastered multiple styles to take down one of the best players in the scene, Desrow is for you! Just call 555-22-4444-6000 and order your copy of the Desrow TODAY!"



i think he is being sarcastic
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