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Just need to throw this out there for all you people thinking of getting coached in sc2. I have been trying to find the right coach, i´m a diamond/plat protoss player who has huges problems with Terrans. I´m beating up to masters zergs, holding 50/50 vs diamond protosses (never 4-gate) and then i´m losing to semi-bad terrans in platinium. So I searched on the internetzz and found Desrow to be a bit recommended.
I contacted him about coaching, and he schedualed me for a lesson at 7pm his time a couple of days ago. At 6pm we talk, he says he needs to get something to eat (takes him an hour i guess :/) and then he will come back and our lesson can start.
An hour later he comes back and asks if I want to have a lesson the day after (i was like wtf?) and my job didn´t really allow me too, since i had moved my stuff over to the next day, to have this lesson that night. Then I asked why tomorrow why not now, he said:
[19.7.2011 23:16:07] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: i dont go out often
[19.7.2011 23:16:08] Marc-Olivier/ desRow: but friends just called me
[19.7.2011 23:16:24] (MEEE): Ahh ok, i´ll just schedual with you later, have fun man
I was pretty cool about it, even though i had waited an hour for nothing and delayed work for it. I said i´d move my work back, go to work right now so I could schedual with him the day after. And he agreed to that, thanked me for understanding and left.
Then the day after, i am there at the right time, he simply doesn´t show up. I wait and wait in good faith that he might just be running a bit late, but he doesn´t show up. Another 1.5 hours down the drain.
Then now, a couple of days later he shows up, says sorry, says he had a hectic sleeping schedual. I´m pretty pissed, having been stood up twice but still willing to give his coaching a go. I ask if we could settle this with me paying for 2 hours of coaching at a decreased rate (maybe 30/35 instead of 50) because of all the bs hassle he made me go through. But no, he said he wasn´t interested and went offline.
What a douche, who doesn´t give a shit about how he treats people. Really don´t recommend him to anyone, any idiot knows that you don´t behave like this to customers, if you want to have a lot of them. Almost understand why people throw in 80 dollars an hour to have iNcontroL coach them, since he´s really nice and does it proper well. Almost thinking of going for him next after this.
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EDIT: Me and Desrow worked things out, i´m really happy he decided to fix things, would be great if a mod would close this thread, and I think we should give him a second chance, he really showed remorse over this and has made amends. Don´t think I can ask for more then that.
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Yeah that sucks. It's really unprofessional; if you (as a pro) schedule a paid coaching session with a student at a set time you are commited to attending that session. Would you expect a golf/tennis coach to behave like this? No. And if SC2 coaches can't behave in the same professional manner as those in other sports then they truly are hurting ESPORTS.
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Gogo get Minigun to coach you
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That's really a dickmove :/
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@Linwelin - Minigun = zerg - yeah?
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On  July 24 2011 00:07 n0btozz wrote:@Linwelin - Minigun = zerg - Yeah?
No..  Minigun is protoss.
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5/5. Sorry for your troubles. It's expected from desrow.
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Oh yeah, sorry, was thinking of machine, you know where to schedual with minigun?
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Try Attero if you need Protoss help, miles better.
In any case, big shame for your problem mate. That is kind of a really rude and unprofessional move from Desrow. I hope someone offers you some free lessons to compensate :/
I hear some pretty bad stories about Desrow, I never know they're true since no one ever takes screenshots.
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desrow has a reputation of being an asshat around here, so i cant say im all that suprised.
Cant see why anyone would pay him to coach, there are many unknown players that offer coaching a lot cheaper and are more serious about it, look around for feedback to see which one suits you.
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@Torte de Lini - I have the whole converstaion on skype with him here, and he´s simply a dick :/ It´s sad imo that he behaves like this. Very unprofessional. But whoever said Attero here above, i´ve been watching that guy so much lately, he´s so good, just didn´t know he had lessons. Obviously I need to check out minigun or Attero. At least Attero seems to have a whole different attitude then Desrow judging by his stream. Such an iNcontroL fan though 
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That sucks man... I really like Minigun, and on top of that he seems like a pretty cool guy from his stream. I would second Linwelin's recommendation ^.^
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On July 24 2011 00:17 n0btozz wrote:@Torte de Lini - I have the whole converstaion on skype with him here, and he´s simply a dick :/ It´s sad imo that he behaves like this. Very unprofessional. But whoever said Attero here above, i´ve been watching that guy so much lately, he´s so good, just didn´t know he had lessons. Obviously I need to check out minigun or Attero. At least Attero seems to have a whole different attitude then Desrow judging by his stream. Such an iNcontroL fan though
Attero is very professional, but I'm saying this with a bias viewpoint. As far as I know, he's very knowledgeable about the game, his rates are average (15 I think? You'd have to email him at sc2Attero@gmail.com) and he's been doing it since beta I believe.
Toss him an email and figure if he's right for you.
Now to find him a MLG Player pass D:
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I'm not sure if you're aware but desrow is an esports badass
Source: http://blog.desrowfighting.com/
anyway lol desrow is and has always been a douche, treats everyone like crap unless you're a known name then he tries to suck up to you and be your friend
User was warned for this post
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On July 24 2011 00:28 KawaiiRice wrote:I'm not sure if you're aware but desrow is an esports badass Source: http://blog.desrowfighting.com/anyway lol desrow is and has always been a douche, treats everyone like crap unless you're a known name then he tries to suck up to you and be your friend
~@______________@ Who wouldn't want to suck-up to the KR
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I was a fan because I know hes from the province of quebec but then I went on the stream and heard him bash on nony's skill? lol?
Attero @15$ sounds pretty decent.
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On July 24 2011 00:31 Bambipwnsu wrote:
I was a fan because I know hes from the province of quebec but then I went on the stream and heard him bash on nony's skill? lol?
Attero @15$ sounds pretty decent.
I think it's 15. Maybe it's more.
He is streaming now if you guys are both interested. We're both in Montreal, so our french is good~
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Think Attero is 50$ (http://www.gosucoaching.com/users/attero) I wanna buy like 5+ lessons, and i think 250$ is maybe a bit more then I want to dedicate to getting coached right now at this plat/diamond level i´m currently on. Although I might go for it cause I really want a good coach.
But really, really really really don´t recommend Desrow. 
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It's 20 to 25$ actually, I just asked lool. My bad ): I haven't asked for his rates in long time~
Anyways, let's talk about Desrow or the blog rather and not suggesting other coaches (though iNcontrol is amazing).
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The word on the street is that CombatEx is putting out videos that will make you better in 1v1. Get Minigun aka CHADDDDDDDDDD to coach you.
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