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I can't believe this still is needed but religious and gun control side discussions will be met with harsh penalties from page 52 and onwards.
Lord_of_Chaos
Profile Joined June 2007
Sweden372 Posts
July 23 2011 00:28 GMT
#1801
In all this tragedy, I'm at least glad he wasn't a muslim. We don't need this tragedy followed up race riots, harassment of innocents and mass hysteria. I also really appreciate Norway's prime minister's response.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 23 2011 00:28 GMT
#1802
Damn, that looks terrifying.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Typhus
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway122 Posts
July 23 2011 00:29 GMT
#1803
On July 23 2011 09:25 yema1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:19 zeru wrote:
On July 23 2011 09:18 yema1 wrote:
Well, I hate socialists with all my heart but he did go a little too far I suppose.

You hate people for having different political views than you? Are you sure you dont need some help too?


Not when I'm being forced to pay 70% taxes, use a single currency and the government spies on my transactions and calls me an enemy of the public because my salary is above average. I've got many reasons to hate socialists. I wouldn't kill them though.

Not the place, and certainly not the time to say that.
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:31:37
July 23 2011 00:31 GMT
#1804
If indeed the shooter happens to be a nationalist, this might trigger a new clash of civilization between internationalists/socialists and nationalists/right-wingers in the West.

The far right has never been as high in Europe, and so are the immigration figures.
This might end up badly.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:33:24
July 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#1805
On July 23 2011 09:25 yema1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:19 zeru wrote:
On July 23 2011 09:18 yema1 wrote:
Well, I hate socialists with all my heart but he did go a little too far I suppose.

You hate people for having different political views than you? Are you sure you dont need some help too?


Not when I'm being forced to pay 70% taxes, use a single currency and the government spies on my transactions and calls me an enemy of the public because my salary is above average. I've got many reasons to hate socialists. I wouldn't kill them though.


Yeah, now your "a little too far" comment makes much more sense.

Oh wait...
Banelings are too cute to blow up
KaluGOSU
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States171 Posts
July 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#1806
omgomg this is terrible, i wonder whos behind this
Halt! Thou shalt not pass. Thou hast much anger, young one
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
July 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#1807
On July 23 2011 09:31 TeWy wrote:
If indeed the shooter happens to be a nationalist, this might trigger a new clash of civilization between internationalists/socialists and nationalists/right-wingers in the West.

The far right has never been as high in Europe, and so are the immigration figures.
This might end up badly.


Not in Norway at least. Politically we don't "work" that way. We will stick together through this no mater what political view you have.
Dead girls don't say no.
Western
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden28 Posts
July 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#1808
I feel some sort of relief that it wasn't a Islamic group, but the act of a single mad man. The man is supposed to have conducted both the bombing and the shooting. He is said to be a right wing extremist and have been active in various anti-Islamic forums.

My thoughts go out to the victims of the bombings, but above all to the kids at the youth camp, were over 10 people died after the susspect, dressed as a policeman, shoot at them. The only good thing to have come out so far is that the man have has been arrested by the Norwegian police
Don't take my kindness for weakness
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:34:26
July 23 2011 00:33 GMT
#1809
Norwegian media says that he is a member in a pistol shooting club.
"!@€#" - as some guy said
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 23 2011 00:33 GMT
#1810
Holy shit those pictures look crazy
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
July 23 2011 00:33 GMT
#1811
On July 23 2011 09:32 KaluGOSU wrote:
omgomg this is terrible, i wonder whos behind this


One guy. A Norwegian. It wasn't a complex AQ attack or anything, at least not that I'm aware...
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
July 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#1812
On July 23 2011 09:33 Weson wrote:
Norwegian media says that he is a member in a pistol shooting club.


He has a lincenced rifle & a gun. He is in a gunrange club yes.
Dead girls don't say no.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
July 23 2011 00:38 GMT
#1813
On July 23 2011 09:28 XiGua wrote:
I feel sick. What the hell is happening...

How can a person like this exist? I don't understand.


It feels crazy, I know, but these actions have been part of history forever. I'm not saying it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't new. Take a look at the US several weeks ago: Jared Loughner. What I mean is...this sort of thing is not going to end. It will always happen. Bad people exist and bad things will happen as a result. There is no point in trying to understand. If this man is put on trial or given the chance to explain himself, there is nothing he can say to make us understand WHY he did what he did - simply put, there is no justification in the world that would, well, do his actions justice.

It's best to just remain alert and do everything possible to preempt this sort of thing in the future - although inevitably there will be equally - or more severely - awful actions such as this one, I think it wouldn't hurt to be alert and attentive to seemingly subtle disturbances that could provide hints to future acts of terror.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
July 23 2011 00:38 GMT
#1814
On July 23 2011 09:36 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:33 Weson wrote:
Norwegian media says that he is a member in a pistol shooting club.


He has a lincenced rifle & a gun. He is in a gunrange club yes.

Seriously what can you do against people like this? That's the biggest thing I hate about all this, even if Norway and the rest of us put the kind of restrictions/safeties as USA fx has, I think this still would've worked. The fucktard had this all just to fucking well planned
Klunssila
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
July 23 2011 00:38 GMT
#1815
So this guy was kinda like the school shooters / bombers in Finland?
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:42:29
July 23 2011 00:41 GMT
#1816
On July 23 2011 09:31 TeWy wrote:
If indeed the shooter happens to be a nationalist, this might trigger a new clash of civilization between internationalists/socialists and nationalists/right-wingers in the West.

The far right has never been as high in Europe, and so are the immigration figures.
This might end up badly.


I disagree. 7 hours and 80 thread pages ago, everyone believed that this was likely the work of Islamic radicals, with a hardened minority ready and eager and willing to spew hate and demand state repression upon any muslims and immigrants they could catch their hands on.

Now the bomber seems to have been a conservative christian whose views are pretty close to those of the guys demanding crackdowns on immigration and fantasising about attacking muslims. This evil vicious terrorist turns out to have been one of them all along. What's more, he's not exactly some thrusting charismatic leader who will inspire the masses, just some isolated, friendless overeducated basement-nerd, who is unlikely to inspire anybody to do anything at all.

This is surely going to force some rethinking and soulsearching among all but the most cranially-deficient conservative islamophobe out there. If anything, this is going to depolarise popular sentiment in Norway somewhat, the exact opposite of what you describe.
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
July 23 2011 00:46 GMT
#1817
If it's really Fjordman, this guy is actually really intelligent. I'm not saying his arguments about islam are true or anything, but he knows how to write and how to convince people. He even has articles about the history of astrophysics...But I guess you kinda need that sort of intellect to plan and execute an assault like that.

I sure hope he doesn't get too much media-attention, that would be really dangerous.
xlord 5:0
Zythius
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Norway94 Posts
July 23 2011 00:46 GMT
#1818
This guy.. Some crazy nazi bastard thinking the Norwegian labour party has gone to far towards creating a multicultural society. An today he wanted to make a stand and tell everybody that he doesn't like immigrants and people who support immigration.

A psycho! Nothing more. May he rot in hell.
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
July 23 2011 00:47 GMT
#1819
On July 23 2011 09:32 Sqq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:31 TeWy wrote:
If indeed the shooter happens to be a nationalist, this might trigger a new clash of civilization between internationalists/socialists and nationalists/right-wingers in the West.

The far right has never been as high in Europe, and so are the immigration figures.
This might end up badly.


Not in Norway at least. Politically we don't "work" that way. We will stick together through this no mater what political view you have.


Politics only stick together when they agree on a main ideology.
Like currently for the left and right movements across Europe, they all agree on the euro, the massive immigration, the legislative uniformization among European countries etc etc...

But if somebody refuse all these premisses, he will never want to stick together with you, and neither will you.
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
July 23 2011 00:51 GMT
#1820
http://www.mediaite.com/online/helpers-of-the-global-jihad-claim-responsibility-for-terror-attacks-in-norway/

Extremist muslim Jihad says they are behind the bombing and more is to come..

So I guess this IS extreme islamist terror after all, despite what people have been saying or?

WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
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