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I can't believe this still is needed but religious and gun control side discussions will be met with harsh penalties from page 52 and onwards.
BleaK_
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway593 Posts
July 22 2011 23:58 GMT
#1761
"Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention. " (from the movie seven)

Seems to fit his motives.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
July 22 2011 23:58 GMT
#1762
On July 23 2011 08:54 mdma-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 08:50 Wivyx wrote:
On July 23 2011 08:48 mdma-_- wrote:
On July 23 2011 08:36 Wivyx wrote:
His antifanpage is growing quickly: http://www.facebook.com/Antifanpage.Anders.Behring.Breivik

whats with all these idiots on that page having norway flags as their profile pics?


A way to unite, or perhaps just a feeling of "we have to do something". I don't know. I wouldn't call them idiots though.

not really a fan of national pride even in such drastic circumstances - sorry


You really had post that in this thread? What exactly are you contributing to the topic?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:01:18
July 23 2011 00:00 GMT
#1763
On July 23 2011 08:49 Arnstein wrote:
G.W. Bush, 9/11: "We're gonna hunt you down." Jens Stoltenberg (PM Norway), 22/7: "We will retaliate with more democracy."

http://www.minervanett.no/2010/01/27/det-imperfektes-politikk/

‎"...på lik linje med Høyre i Norge er i ferd med å bli gjort fullstendig kulturelt irrelevante av “ekte” kulturkonservative partier som f. eksempel FrP, Geert Wilders Frihetsparti etc. som med rette kan kalle seg ekte konservative (kulturkonservative)."

Look at his posts in the comments. It's pretty sick.


From reading the forum via Google translate, his posts aren't anything sicker than you'd expect from any random nerd with a somewhat conservative and islamophobic bent. I hear more venal right-wing and quasi-racist opinions every day from Scandinavians in Starcraft 2-related IRC channels. Judging by the Facebook page, this Breivik guy would fit right in this community.

I don't suppose we'll get many calls to kick nationalists and anti-multiculturalists and conservatives and white blonde people out of Norway, or any diatribes against conservatism, that 'so-called ideology of peace' now that we know what the murderer/terrorist/lunatic really believes in. Double standards ahoy!
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:02:32
July 23 2011 00:01 GMT
#1764
On July 23 2011 08:58 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 08:54 mdma-_- wrote:
On July 23 2011 08:50 Wivyx wrote:
On July 23 2011 08:48 mdma-_- wrote:
On July 23 2011 08:36 Wivyx wrote:
His antifanpage is growing quickly: http://www.facebook.com/Antifanpage.Anders.Behring.Breivik

whats with all these idiots on that page having norway flags as their profile pics?


A way to unite, or perhaps just a feeling of "we have to do something". I don't know. I wouldn't call them idiots though.

not really a fan of national pride even in such drastic circumstances - sorry


You really had post that in this thread? What exactly are you contributing to the topic?


Please forgive him, it is a particular German issue .
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
Krikan
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway520 Posts
July 23 2011 00:02 GMT
#1765
Link to a picture showing, supposedly, the perpetrator standing a few feet away from a youth begging for his life while sitting in the water. :S
http://bildr.no/view/933067
Sick, sick shit. :S
Naniwa on making the MLG finals: Uh, it's ok.
Mvz
Profile Joined April 2003
206 Posts
July 23 2011 00:02 GMT
#1766
It says that Anders Breivik is also known as Fjordman.
http://chromatism.net/fjordman/fjordmanfiles.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fjordman

Source: http://www.realisten.se/2011/07/23/anders-behring-breivik-gripen-for-terrordaden-i-oslo/ and alot of rumours on forums.
dupshflayh
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway49 Posts
July 23 2011 00:03 GMT
#1767
On July 23 2011 08:28 qwaykee wrote:
Than god he is norwegian. I would've been sick to my stomach if he was muslim and all the fear/rubbish that would spread with it.
Got back from a friend from Utøya and he is safe, fortunatly.



Great to hear you got your friend back, and I do agree that it's for the best that he's norwegian. I don't want retaliation lynch mobs (some of which were already brewing before they caught him). It's a sad story, but at least there are some bright points.


Also, for those of you who thinks the prime minister is doing a good job, and for those of you that do not, consider this: His kids were on that island, and he himself was going to speak there tomorrow. He's also been to that arrangement every year since the 70s. Personally, I think he's doing a tremendous job at the moment, even though I don't necessarily agree with his politics.

Let's hope nothing changes, or that we at least get something positive out of this instead of fear. That's truly the only way we can win against terrorism.


Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
July 23 2011 00:03 GMT
#1768
On July 23 2011 09:02 Krikan wrote:
Link to a picture showing, supposedly, the perpetrator standing a few feet away from a youth begging for his life while sitting in the water. :S
http://bildr.no/view/933067
Sick, sick shit. :S


That picture is so wrong in so many ways. :'(

saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
July 23 2011 00:04 GMT
#1769
His WoW Character
Nqsty
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom118 Posts
July 23 2011 00:04 GMT
#1770
Damn, who needs the FBI or media when you have TL ?

You guys are like pro networking detectives, the amount of research the 300 posters have done on this topic is crazy, and it's building up to be a FAR more intriguing event than all the other mass murderings I've ever heard of.

Having said that, I think its the first time I've ever truely felt sad and sorry for all the families in such a story, I'm usually very detached, but this affected me quite a lot. All my thoughts go out to the ones in pain, both physically and emotionally.
Brundlefly
Profile Joined July 2010
Norway56 Posts
July 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#1771
Scumbag norwegian nationalists
says they love norway
Blows up norway
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
July 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#1772
On July 23 2011 09:03 Wivyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:02 Krikan wrote:
Link to a picture showing, supposedly, the perpetrator standing a few feet away from a youth begging for his life while sitting in the water. :S
http://bildr.no/view/933067
Sick, sick shit. :S


That picture is so wrong in so many ways. :'(




Eh? I thought this picture shows a genuine policeman. It this is the killer, the picture really is scary.
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 23 2011 00:06 GMT
#1773
--- Nuked ---
Mvz
Profile Joined April 2003
206 Posts
July 23 2011 00:07 GMT
#1774
On July 23 2011 09:06 tenacity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:03 Wivyx wrote:
On July 23 2011 09:02 Krikan wrote:
Link to a picture showing, supposedly, the perpetrator standing a few feet away from a youth begging for his life while sitting in the water. :S
http://bildr.no/view/933067
Sick, sick shit. :S


That picture is so wrong in so many ways. :'(




Eh? I thought this picture shows a genuine policeman. It this is the killer, the picture really is scary.

Yeah I think the picture is a policeman and some other guy fishing in bodys/clothes with a net.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 23 2011 00:07 GMT
#1775
On July 23 2011 09:00 Aim Here wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 08:49 Arnstein wrote:
G.W. Bush, 9/11: "We're gonna hunt you down." Jens Stoltenberg (PM Norway), 22/7: "We will retaliate with more democracy."

http://www.minervanett.no/2010/01/27/det-imperfektes-politikk/

‎"...på lik linje med Høyre i Norge er i ferd med å bli gjort fullstendig kulturelt irrelevante av “ekte” kulturkonservative partier som f. eksempel FrP, Geert Wilders Frihetsparti etc. som med rette kan kalle seg ekte konservative (kulturkonservative)."

Look at his posts in the comments. It's pretty sick.


From reading the forum via Google translate, his posts aren't anything sicker than you'd expect from any random nerd with a somewhat conservative and islamophobic bent. I hear more venal right-wing and quasi-racist opinions every day from Scandinavians in Starcraft 2-related IRC channels. Judging by the Facebook page, this Breivik guy would fit right in this community.

I don't suppose we'll get many calls to kick nationalists and anti-multiculturalists and conservatives and white blonde people out of Norway, or any diatribes against conservatism, that 'so-called ideology of peace' now that we know what the murderer/terrorist/lunatic really believes in. Double standards ahoy!


That's the scary part, for me at least. From what we know of this guy so far, he loves his movies, his music, his TV-shows, his games, uni educated and politically disenfranchised (for different reasons, but still).

All those things could be said about me.

I have to say I have some issues with digging into his personal life tho, and not because of his privacy (which I dont give a shit about). This guy obviously knows how the world works, and set up FB/Twitter, you name it, for 'us' (the news consumers) to enjoy. Part of me feels we should just ignore it all, declare him a psycho and forget his name right here and now. Mourn the dead, ignore the perpetrator.
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
July 23 2011 00:08 GMT
#1776
On July 23 2011 09:04 Nqsty wrote:
Damn, who needs the FBI or media when you have TL ?

You guys are like pro networking detectives, the amount of research the 300 posters have done on this topic is crazy, and it's building up to be a FAR more intriguing event than all the other mass murderings I've ever heard of.

Having said that, I think its the first time I've ever truely felt sad and sorry for all the families in such a story, I'm usually very detached, but this affected me quite a lot. All my thoughts go out to the ones in pain, both physically and emotionally.


The internet is relentless. It was absolutely amazing how quickly he was found after the censored image was released.
Krikan
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway520 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:10:04
July 23 2011 00:08 GMT
#1777
On July 23 2011 09:06 tenacity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:03 Wivyx wrote:
On July 23 2011 09:02 Krikan wrote:
Link to a picture showing, supposedly, the perpetrator standing a few feet away from a youth begging for his life while sitting in the water. :S
http://bildr.no/view/933067
Sick, sick shit. :S


That picture is so wrong in so many ways. :'(




Eh? I thought this picture shows a genuine policeman. It this is the killer, the picture really is scary.

It could be both I guess. The kid doesn't look very reassured though. Just a pic though, might be bullshit written on it, and me seeing things. But nonetheless, even if it is a real policeman or not, a situation like that most assuredly happened during the hour he was one the island.
Naniwa on making the MLG finals: Uh, it's ok.
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:09:11
July 23 2011 00:08 GMT
#1778
On July 23 2011 08:54 zex66 wrote:
The song titles from his facebook write out this message:



Fireworks Out of the sky Let it all out. Faithless insomnia After all.

Big sky Sound of goodbye. Ere the world crumbles, Ere the world crumbles. Nighttime journey through the eiglophian hills, Memories of cimmeria.

Ere the world crumbles, Faithless insomnia Fireworks.

Hold on to me.

Holding on to nothing. Freefalling.


Might just be accidental. eiglophian hills refers to some mountains and cimmeria is a place - both inside "conan", movie or the game. What would "faithless insomnia fireworks" mean?
TG Sambo... Intel classic! Life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:14:46
July 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#1779
Post edited.
growlizing
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway122 Posts
July 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#1780
On July 23 2011 08:47 Wivyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 08:42 switchdev wrote:
A friend of mine linked me this:
http://www.minervanett.no/2010/01/27/det-imperfektes-politikk/

I don't speak Norwegian, but if you look at the comments down the page it seems like someone posting under his name is extremely active in the discussion (about politics).

Any Norwegians able to shed some light on his views?


Wow.

It is indeed under his name. He uses big words and a civil tone to engage in a discussion about how the so-called "conservatives" in modern politics really aren't that conservative. To see him discuss politics in such a calm manner, using smilies and appearing as a decent person makes quite an impression on me, to be honest. Can a person who acts as sane as he does, really do what he did today?

I'm not really judging what he's saying (as I'm not able to analyse any of the political talk), but how he's saying it

Yes, he certainly knows his way around with words.
Basically he is unsatisfied with the current political debate, and predicts a shift in the debate towards what he calls cultural conservatism, as an opposition to the current dominating trend of (pro) multicultural parties. It might also seem like he sees the current political reign of multiculturalism as a stage in Karl Marx ideal of a unified nation of workers, indifferent of ethinicity and nationality, and speaks vaguely condescending of this.
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