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Grettin
42393 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:50 Aphasie wrote: No he had already assumed "responsebility" for her so i figured i would help someone else. An off duty doctor later (or prior) also had also checked her out there wasnt much else one could do for her. Okay.  As i said earlier, fantastic job, what you did there. | ||
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decemvre
Romania639 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:45 FallDownMarigold wrote: Actually since now you're referring to me, I'll go ahead and set the record straight since it IS relevant to this thread: -A poster had implied that this act must have been executed by a "highly trained professional". I replied that in fact this act - although horrible - is an act that can be replicated by ANYONE that is crazy enough. It DOES NOT require a HIGHLY TRAINED operator to kill with a tool like an assault weapon. That was my point - it's an important point too. We must ALL be very wary of this type of violence as it can happen ANYWHERE so long as a lunatic/fanatic has access to the right TOOLS - in this case, an assault weapon. -Another poster uselessly responded to me that I was wrong in my nomenclature - that "assault rifle" was not the right term. To this needless point I replied, with FOUR sources, that the description and aftermath of the violence clearly indicated that it WAS an assault rifle. Again, this point is important because it indicates that somebody had access to a very dangerous tool - one that enables this type of slaughter with relative ease. Now, do you have any questions for me, this "bunch of stupid Americans"? By the way, I'm one person. Hope that clears it up. Don't try to start a flame-war here by miss-quoting me. I will not reply to any more gun related posts from here on. | ||
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Kayama
Norway8 Posts
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Tleaf
Canada181 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:45 Aphasie wrote: Thats the asiatic tourist i mentioned in my post! Btw are there more pics of the place connected to a user or anything? I wanna see things now that things have calmed down a bit + Show Spoiler + On July 23 2011 01:04 Aphasie wrote: I was about 100m from the explosion when it happened. (outside the VG building for those who are familiar where that is). Thankfully i was faceing with my back against it when all the glass exploded. An asiatic female tourist wasn't so lucky. She had cuts all over her face and think some of the glass was in her eyes. I just saw one other with minor cuts. The two that were hurt were already taken care of by someone else so i made sure somebody had called an ambulance. I saw a woman lying on the street crying and shaking so i comforted her and took her hand and led her away. Everybody seemed paralyzed so i shouted that everybody should get away in case there was a second bomb and people started moving. When we got like 600 meters away people started panicking and running so we stopped and i held her in my arms till people started cooling down. I then took her on the bus out of town and had a cup of coffee while we talked and she cooled down. Some came to pick her up and now im home having some beers. Edit: http://twitpic.com/5tzowl/full This is where i was standing (bus station behind the windows.). I remember the only half shattered window. It was the only one in 6 floors that was still half way intact. Please censor pictures :/ I'm glad you okay but seriously :/ | ||
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Wivyx
Norway624 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:47 decemberTV wrote: But that doesn't make sense. What would they have to gain? Since most of the norwegian people would not side with the socialist party even more wouldn't they ? Is it the socialist party who agreed to send troups in Afghanistan back in the day or was it a different party ? I stared at your post for a good 5 minutes without getting a single decent answer. You're absolutely right. It doesn't make sense. At the end of the day he hasn't achieved anything but a perplexed nation and blog posts about human cruelty. I'm afraid I'm not politically invested enough to give any other detailed analysis. | ||
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decemvre
Romania639 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:53 Kayama wrote: This is hitting us hard, in so many ways. It's not like we thought we were untouchable, but still its a shock. We are used to feel safe in our little peaceful corner of the world, now this is gone. Just that anyone would do this to innocent young people like the ones on Utøya is more than i can understand. They were just kids! How can they justify that? Not knowing is very annoying. Surely the guy they have in custody must have said something by now. Its just not right to make people wait and wait >.< | ||
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partisan
United States783 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:55 Tleaf wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 23 2011 06:45 Aphasie wrote: Thats the asiatic tourist i mentioned in my post! Btw are there more pics of the place connected to a user or anything? I wanna see things now that things have calmed down a bit + Show Spoiler + On July 23 2011 01:04 Aphasie wrote: I was about 100m from the explosion when it happened. (outside the VG building for those who are familiar where that is). Thankfully i was faceing with my back against it when all the glass exploded. An asiatic female tourist wasn't so lucky. She had cuts all over her face and think some of the glass was in her eyes. I just saw one other with minor cuts. The two that were hurt were already taken care of by someone else so i made sure somebody had called an ambulance. I saw a woman lying on the street crying and shaking so i comforted her and took her hand and led her away. Everybody seemed paralyzed so i shouted that everybody should get away in case there was a second bomb and people started moving. When we got like 600 meters away people started panicking and running so we stopped and i held her in my arms till people started cooling down. I then took her on the bus out of town and had a cup of coffee while we talked and she cooled down. Some came to pick her up and now im home having some beers. Edit: http://twitpic.com/5tzowl/full This is where i was standing (bus station behind the windows.). I remember the only half shattered window. It was the only one in 6 floors that was still half way intact. Please censor pictures :/ I'm glad you okay but seriously :/ Cant even show pictures of injured people? | ||
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Tleaf
Canada181 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:57 partisan wrote: Cant even show pictures of injured people? my gf is in Oslo atm and I know of people on that island | ||
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Brundlefly
Norway56 Posts
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article231455.ece Basically, it's a story from 10 years ago of a then- 23 year old neo-nazi caught with dynamite, guns and police uniforms, in and out of police custody. Dude. | ||
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ElectricWizard
Norway200 Posts
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article231455.ece 9 years ago a 23 year old neo-nazi was arrested with 2 police-uniforms, explosives and guns. The arrested guy today is 32 years old. This is eerily probable to be the guy. | ||
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Wivyx
Norway624 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:59 Brundlefly wrote: For Norwegian people: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article231455.ece Basically, it's a story from 10 years ago of a then- 23 year old nazi caught with dynamite and police uniforms, in and out of police custody. Dude. I heard they mentioned that the shooter was known to the police. The age adds up. It is not impossible that this is the same guy. | ||
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Brethern
231 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:55 Wivyx wrote: I stared at your post for a good 5 minutes without getting a single decent answer. You're absolutely right. It doesn't make sense. At the end of the day he hasn't achieved anything but a perplexed nation and blog posts about human cruelty. I'm afraid I'm not politically invested enough to give any other detailed analysis. Some people just want to watch the world burn. That's all the reason you need. | ||
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keeblur
United States826 Posts
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Kilby
Finland1069 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:55 decemberTV wrote: Not nowing is very annoying. Surely the guy they have in custody must have said something by now. Its just not right to make people wait and wait >.< Well, does it even matter what his "reasons" were? I mean, it's not like we're all going to go "oh ok, now I see why he..." No. When he has done something like this, whatever "reason" he thinks he had for it is pretty much irrelevant. Except of course if it can be used to prevent this kind of things in the future. | ||
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kekepop
55 Posts
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DoXa
Switzerland1448 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:59 Brundlefly wrote: For Norwegian people: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article231455.ece Basically, it's a story from 10 years ago of a then- 23 year old neo-nazi caught with dynamite, guns and police uniforms, in and out of police custody. Dude. could someone please translate? | ||
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Grettin
42393 Posts
Yes please! | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:55 decemberTV wrote: Not knowing is very annoying. Surely the guy they have in custody must have said something by now. Its just not right to make people wait and wait >.< It's not certain he's talking at all. | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:55 Wivyx wrote: I stared at your post for a good 5 minutes without getting a single decent answer. You're absolutely right. It doesn't make sense. At the end of the day he hasn't achieved anything but a perplexed nation and blog posts about human cruelty. I'm afraid I'm not politically invested enough to give any other detailed analysis. One possibility would be that they expected to get away and assumed (correctly based on the many fingers that have already started pointing that way due to lack of information) that islamist terrorist groups would be blamed. Another is that they wanted to highlight Norways lack of security against terrorism. A third would be that they just really hated the Norwegian labour party and wanted to take revenge. You have to remember that we are most likely talking about someone that is completely batshit crazy, normal logic and reason does most likely not quite apply | ||
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ElectricWizard
Norway200 Posts
it's basically just a summary of all the shit he's done. Possession of lots of illegal guns, explosives and he was in jail/sentenced for vehicular manslaughter. His age adds up, this was 9 years ago, he was 23, and the alleged "terrorist" is 32 years of age. The details aren't important. | ||
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