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kekepop
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:16 vvLOSTvv wrote: an eye for an eye..and a tooth for a tooth as you have done to others shall be done to you what happend here in norway today should be no suprise to us. totaly expected imo. Yeah I'm sure those kids are mass murderers.... | ||
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insaneMicro
Germany761 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:15 decemberTV wrote: That actually sounds quite comfortable. You need to do something about that as a nation. Your civilization has advanced too far when compared to other nations. A terrorist from the middle east would view that as welcoming really. No work. Food, Entertainment etc. I'm not from Norway, but obviously this kind of prison is not intended for the punishment of such freak mass killers. It's rather there to reform and resocialize criminals, and I think it's been working pretty well. | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:15 decemberTV wrote: That actually sounds quite comfortable. You need to do something about that as a nation. Your civilization has advanced too far when compared to other nations. A terrorist from the middle east would view that as welcoming really. No work. Food, Entertainment etc. Part of the philosophy behind Norways prison system atm is to treat the prisoners like actual people, and try to rehabilitate them. Judging by statistics, it's working rather well. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Wivyx
Norway624 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:19 insaneMicro wrote: I'm not from Norway, but obviously this kind of prison is not intended for the punishment of such freak mass killers. It's rather there to reform and resocialize criminals, and I think it's been working pretty well. It has indeed. Still, some people are twisted beyond repair. | ||
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partisan
United States783 Posts
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Eventh
Norway45 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:16 Laevateinn wrote: You honestly think he won't be put into "forvaring" and spend the rest of his life in prison? Yes, we only have 21 years prison sentences, but we also have "Forvaring" which is if you are deemed a danger to society, and it can be extended into infinity, five years at a time. You are right, forvaring is likely, but there are no guarantees that down the line he won't be considered reformed. | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:17 Maenander wrote: This shows that it would be very easy for right-wing extremists to further their political agenda by committing acts of terror. They just need to plant a bomb and never reveal who's behind it. Islamist groups are more than ready to take responsibility, as they crave for attention. This in turn strengthens the islamophobes. Scary thought. Indeed, very scare. I'm still anxiously waiting for the police to release any official information about his motives | ||
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thee telescopes
321 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:21 Badboyrune wrote: I hope they don't release his motives, we shouldn't give crazy people the idea that they can get a message out this way.Indeed, very scare. I'm still anxiously waiting for the police to release any official information about his motives | ||
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ShiShKeBab
Sweden43 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:21 Wivyx wrote: It has indeed. Still, some people are twisted beyond repair. Scandinavian prisons take the right approach, rehabilitate, people become who they are through their environment. It's impossible to control every lunatic, we need to take a pragmatic approach and do the best we can for society in the long road and not let freak incidents change our humanist beliefs | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:23 thee telescopes wrote: I hope they don't release his motives, we shouldn't give crazy people the idea that they can get a message out this way. I agree with this sentiment, however people will want answers as to why. I think instead of twisting it off like "oh he had some agenda to deliver and decided to shoot up children" they'll tell the entire story. | ||
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Laevateinn
Norway115 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:21 Eventh wrote: You are right, forvaring is likely, but there are no guarantees that down the line he won't be considered reformed. I doubt the Norwegian people will ever deem him reformed, whatever happens. There are way to many people with loved ones lost this time. Look at Arne Treholt, he is still shunned. Sure, the system doesn't necessarily listen to the people, but I doubt he would be safe outside of forvaring as well. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:21 Wivyx wrote: It has indeed. Still, some people are twisted beyond repair. Hope this doesn't have negative effect on that kind of system, because while this nutter is sure never to see freedom again(or atleast I hope so), the kind of system Norway has, I feel should be what should want, reform/punish rather than seek revenge for the victims(since no revenge will really get us what we want anyway). | ||
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Jukulmolder
Spain254 Posts
damm, just how nuts can a person be? | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:23 thee telescopes wrote: I hope they don't release his motives, we shouldn't give crazy people the idea that they can get a message out this way. There is no question "if". Its only "when" and "who first" about his motives. Media will know his identity within 3 days, even if the police doenst release anything. | ||
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Cocacooh
Norway1510 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:25 Laevateinn wrote: I doubt the Norwegian people will ever deem him reformed, whatever happens. There are way to many people with loved ones lost this time. Look at Arne Treholt, he is still shunned. Sure, the system doesn't necessarily listen to the people, but I doubt he would be safe outside of forvaring as well. Agreed, if he ever got relased it would likely turn someone into a killer. | ||
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
There's a press conference in 5 minutes and then we may get some more information. | ||
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Polarn
Norway96 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:26 Jukulmolder wrote: so they say he was a lone wolf? damm, just how nuts can a person be? They didn't say anything like that, they're not releasing any kind of information along those lines as of now.. There's a press conference with Jens Stoltenberg starting in a couple of minutes though.. I don't know if it'll reveal any new information, but. http://www.vgtv.no/#!id=42341 | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On July 23 2011 05:23 thee telescopes wrote: I hope they don't release his motives, we shouldn't give crazy people the idea that they can get a message out this way. I'm not sure that would do more good than harm. Not releasing the information would lead to wild speculations and most likely a lot of hate directed at groups of people that don't deserve it. Of course I'm not suggesting they should go out publicly and say that he did this because he thinks this and this is wrong with that and that. But I think it would be a good idea to let people know if he had any affiliations with any terrorist groups or if it was an act by a lone madman strictly against the Norwegian labour party for instance. | ||
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