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Stop the god damn gun discussions, jeeze. Use pm's if you care so much about pointless shit!
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On July 23 2011 04:35 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 04:26 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 04:23 FallDownMarigold wrote:On July 23 2011 04:19 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 04:12 FallDownMarigold wrote:On July 23 2011 04:09 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 04:04 PanN wrote:On July 23 2011 04:02 trucane wrote:
What always surprised me in things like this is that no one tries to do anything despite being unarmed. Yes this time it was kids so I understand the whole running part but if everyone would have bum rushed the gunman instead of trying to run and hide maybe 2-3 would have died and a half dozen would have gotten injured after all one guy with a semi automatic can only do so much damage before he has to reload or get overrun.
I do realize this sounds logical from a "sitting behind the computer screen" perspective but still I can't help thinking about it Oh come the fuck on man, you're not being realistic at all and you know it. Yeah, 2-3 kids would have died if everyone "bum rushed" the guy with a MACHINE GUN. nobody had a machine gun. How did this tread go from he had a rifle. to he had a fully automatic rilfe. to an assualt rifle with optics. to a machine gun. You all know these are WILDLY different weapons right? NYT.com Wow thats quite the jump there. From a Rifle with a scope to an assualt rifle with optics Scope = optics. Don't bother arguing there. Really? Look up the word 'optics'. Assault rifle = rifle with semi auto/select fire + detachable cartridge. Not a "jump" at all. What is your point? You suggesting someone put 20 people down with a bolt action rifle? Use your head Sorry friend an assualt rifle is like an m4 with a reflex sight. i can get an automatic rifle from wall mart and put a scope on it. 2 wildy different things and there a differance between automatic and fully automatic u dont have a clue what you are talking about. Hmm, as an owner of an AR15/M4 I would beg to differ. Here: Show nested quote +An assault rifle is a selective fire (selectable between semi-auto and fully automatic) rifle (capable of being fired from the shoulder) that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine. Sources: 1 2 3 4If you'd like to continue arguing please at least provide counter evidence rather than just "no becoz I said so."
You two seriously need to get out, or take it to PMs, okay? Here isn't the place to argue guns with each other.
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On July 23 2011 04:31 gosuMalicE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 04:26 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 04:23 FallDownMarigold wrote:On July 23 2011 04:19 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 04:12 FallDownMarigold wrote:On July 23 2011 04:09 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 04:04 PanN wrote:On July 23 2011 04:02 trucane wrote:
What always surprised me in things like this is that no one tries to do anything despite being unarmed. Yes this time it was kids so I understand the whole running part but if everyone would have bum rushed the gunman instead of trying to run and hide maybe 2-3 would have died and a half dozen would have gotten injured after all one guy with a semi automatic can only do so much damage before he has to reload or get overrun.
I do realize this sounds logical from a "sitting behind the computer screen" perspective but still I can't help thinking about it Oh come the fuck on man, you're not being realistic at all and you know it. Yeah, 2-3 kids would have died if everyone "bum rushed" the guy with a MACHINE GUN. nobody had a machine gun. How did this tread go from he had a rifle. to he had a fully automatic rilfe. to an assualt rifle with optics. to a machine gun. You all know these are WILDLY different weapons right? NYT.com Wow thats quite the jump there. From a Rifle with a scope to an assualt rifle with optics Scope = optics. Don't bother arguing there. Really? Look up the word 'optics'. Assault rifle = rifle with semi auto/select fire + detachable cartridge. Not a "jump" at all. What is your point? You suggesting someone put 20 people down with a bolt action rifle? Use your head Sorry friend an assualt rifle is like an m4 with a reflex sight. i can get an automatic rifle from wall mart and put a scope on it. 2 wildy different things and there a differance between automatic and fully automatic u dont have a clue what you are talking about. Seriously man no one gives a fuck what KIND of gun it was, a bunch of kids were just murdered in cold blood, you are either a really despicable troll to come into this kind of thread, or some one who is so dumb and desensitized to violence you don't really care to much about the events anyway, either way stop posting stupid shit like that in this thread.
Or maybe im a person that understands that having the actual facts of what happens is very important. Who understands that knowing exactly how the shooter was armed makes a huge differance. I promise you the 1st question the police asked after how many dead how many wounded was how he was armed because it will give you the most information on who he is and were he came from. Im sorry you dont get that.
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On July 23 2011 04:34 Torenhire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 04:33 Badboyrune wrote:On July 23 2011 04:29 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 04:27 carloselcoco wrote:On July 23 2011 04:23 FallDownMarigold wrote:On July 23 2011 04:19 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 04:12 FallDownMarigold wrote:On July 23 2011 04:09 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 04:04 PanN wrote:On July 23 2011 04:02 trucane wrote:
What always surprised me in things like this is that no one tries to do anything despite being unarmed. Yes this time it was kids so I understand the whole running part but if everyone would have bum rushed the gunman instead of trying to run and hide maybe 2-3 would have died and a half dozen would have gotten injured after all one guy with a semi automatic can only do so much damage before he has to reload or get overrun.
I do realize this sounds logical from a "sitting behind the computer screen" perspective but still I can't help thinking about it Oh come the fuck on man, you're not being realistic at all and you know it. Yeah, 2-3 kids would have died if everyone "bum rushed" the guy with a MACHINE GUN. nobody had a machine gun. How did this tread go from he had a rifle. to he had a fully automatic rilfe. to an assualt rifle with optics. to a machine gun. You all know these are WILDLY different weapons right? Rifle with scope. --> assault rifle with optics NYT.com Wow thats quite the jump there. From a Rifle with a scope to an assualt rifle with optics Scope = optics. Don't bother arguing there. Really? Look up the word 'optics'. Assault rifle = rifle with semi auto/select fire + detachable cartridge. Not a "jump" at all. What is your point? You suggesting someone put 20 people down with a bolt action rifle? Use your head STOP WITH THIS FUCKING DEBATE!!! Keep this related to Oslo, not to guns.... BTW, a terrorism expert said that the attacks were timed and that they had the signature of a major terrorist attack. It is about oslo man my point is that it makes a large differance and say alot about what happened if the shooter had an automatic hunting rifle with a scope or an ak47 with a reflex sight. Do you not se how that could change the whole situtation? I honestly cant see any way that the type of gun used could 'change the whole situation'. Even more than that, who fucking cares about that right now? We can argue semantics all we want but until there's a 100% confirmed report, it doesn't matter.
Same here. I don't give a shit right now if it was a reflex sight or a scope. Let's wait for the official word, and instead focus on how/if we can help the situation.
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The shooter was most likely spotted at the bomb scene before the blast. According to norweigen police
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Going down to donate blood as they requested, might aswell do what I can..
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On July 23 2011 04:32 GrandMaPwnZ. wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Uncensored version of one of the pictures which has been floating around from the Utøya shooting. I have never felt such sadness.
I feel the same man. Thoughts go out to those who have lost friends and/or family today. I hope you'll all stay strong through tough times.
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On July 23 2011 04:39 Neeh wrote:
Going down to donate blood as they requested, might aswell do what I can..
Good man!!
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9-10 dead kids at the island.
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On July 23 2011 04:39 Sobba wrote:
9-10 dead kids at the island.
Did he not say that was regarding the bombing?
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On July 23 2011 04:39 Sobba wrote:
9-10 dead kids at the island.
Never thought I'd say something like that, but hopefully only :/
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On July 23 2011 04:39 Neeh wrote:
Going down to donate blood as they requested, might aswell do what I can..
If there was a reputation system you'd have gotten a +1, hope more think like you.
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The police are SURE he has never worked for the police. So they know who he is and most likely Norweigen.
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On July 23 2011 04:35 taldarimAltar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 04:31 gosuMalicE wrote:On July 23 2011 04:26 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 04:23 FallDownMarigold wrote:On July 23 2011 04:19 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 04:12 FallDownMarigold wrote:On July 23 2011 04:09 Detwiler wrote:On July 23 2011 04:04 PanN wrote:On July 23 2011 04:02 trucane wrote:
What always surprised me in things like this is that no one tries to do anything despite being unarmed. Yes this time it was kids so I understand the whole running part but if everyone would have bum rushed the gunman instead of trying to run and hide maybe 2-3 would have died and a half dozen would have gotten injured after all one guy with a semi automatic can only do so much damage before he has to reload or get overrun.
I do realize this sounds logical from a "sitting behind the computer screen" perspective but still I can't help thinking about it Oh come the fuck on man, you're not being realistic at all and you know it. Yeah, 2-3 kids would have died if everyone "bum rushed" the guy with a MACHINE GUN. nobody had a machine gun. How did this tread go from he had a rifle. to he had a fully automatic rilfe. to an assualt rifle with optics. to a machine gun. You all know these are WILDLY different weapons right? NYT.com Wow thats quite the jump there. From a Rifle with a scope to an assualt rifle with optics Scope = optics. Don't bother arguing there. Really? Look up the word 'optics'. Assault rifle = rifle with semi auto/select fire + detachable cartridge. Not a "jump" at all. What is your point? You suggesting someone put 20 people down with a bolt action rifle? Use your head Sorry friend an assualt rifle is like an m4 with a reflex sight. i can get an automatic rifle from wall mart and put a scope on it. 2 wildy different things and there a differance between automatic and fully automatic u dont have a clue what you are talking about. Seriously man no one gives a fuck what KIND of gun it was, a bunch of kids were just murdered in cold blood, you are either a really despicable troll to come into this kind of thread, or some one who is so dumb and desensitized to violence you don't really care to much about the events anyway, either way stop posting stupid shit like that in this thread. He's not trolling just rebutting the other guy... And to the jokers keep the jokes out, they ain't funny, not at all...
He was rebutting the guy with obviously false information, that he knew would lead to further posts and arguments along the same line in an attempt derail the thread, that is trolling. And that is the last post I'm making on the topic because I don't want to contribute to the thread being derailed.
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On July 23 2011 04:39 Sobba wrote:
9-10 dead kids at the island.
How does this relate to the 20-30 given before? This just confirmed and others unknown or missing? Or??
not seeing any of it on the sites I'm reading.
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On July 23 2011 04:40 Interloper wrote:Did he not say that was regarding the bombing?
Nope.
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Very sad on going story, with all things on this magnitude i think of this quote to the usual response to such tragedy.
"Tragedy has been and will always be with it
somewhere right now evil people are planning evil things
all of us will do everything meaningful
everything we can do to prevent it
but each horrible act
can't become an act for opportunists
to cleave the very bill of rights that bind us"
-Charleston Heston
I do hope more people react by donating blood and helping out rather then to build higher walls and go on witch hunts.
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