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Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
July 08 2011 07:19 GMT
#61
On July 08 2011 16:02 desrow wrote:
Can't we get titan or vvv to submit the replay please ?
I understand now why destiny lost 0-6 to this girl =(

Desrow is right. It's pretty clear that a replay needs to be released.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
ReseT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States273 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 07:26:55
July 08 2011 07:24 GMT
#62
On July 08 2011 16:14 Alltomata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 16:07 EzaLB wrote:
LOL exactly, everything is in the video... Just stop talking Fever, making yourself look bad


Cause she was already getting accused of cheating, and I know you morons would go make a TL blog. And guess what? Shit, I was right. I wanted to skype you to set things straight, that she DIDN'T cheat. I was speaking hypothetically, when talking about having her back. If people accused her of cheating, I would try to set it straight. She didn't cheat in that game, and you can't prove she did. You weren't there, you don't have replays. So stop.


It's obvious now that you're lying. Please, everyone refer to the tinypic that I had posted on the OP. I clearly wrote to him "Thats going on TL". Now your lying again? The hole is getting deeper and deeper my friend.

Edit: Anyways, I'm done for tonight. Another cheater bites the dust!
Edit#2: I love you Huk.
vVv Gaming
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1692 Posts
July 08 2011 07:45 GMT
#63
So she probably did stream cheat with a ghosting friend. There's nothing you can do to really prove it, which kinda sucks. But at least you put it out there for people to know about.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 08 2011 07:48 GMT
#64
sick high lvl drama in here
Alltomata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States66 Posts
July 08 2011 07:54 GMT
#65
On July 08 2011 16:24 ReseT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 16:14 Alltomata wrote:
On July 08 2011 16:07 EzaLB wrote:
LOL exactly, everything is in the video... Just stop talking Fever, making yourself look bad


Cause she was already getting accused of cheating, and I know you morons would go make a TL blog. And guess what? Shit, I was right. I wanted to skype you to set things straight, that she DIDN'T cheat. I was speaking hypothetically, when talking about having her back. If people accused her of cheating, I would try to set it straight. She didn't cheat in that game, and you can't prove she did. You weren't there, you don't have replays. So stop.


It's obvious now that you're lying. Please, everyone refer to the tinypic that I had posted on the OP. I clearly wrote to him "Thats going on TL". Now your lying again? The hole is getting deeper and deeper my friend.

Edit: Anyways, I'm done for tonight. Another cheater bites the dust!
Edit#2: I love you Huk.


I don't understand...
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TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
July 08 2011 08:00 GMT
#66
On July 08 2011 16:48 travis wrote:
sick high lvl drama in here



+1, TRAVIS I LOVE YOU

I'll raise your pocket rocket any day man
Halcyondaze
Profile Joined January 2011
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 08:07:53
July 08 2011 08:04 GMT
#67
Get some replays up in hur. It does look unbelievably sketchy. Looks like she cheated for sure, which is just sad. Hopefully something is done.

Also I think all streams involved prizes should have delays on them no matter what. Just make it a habit with all streams and there will be much less of this nonsense
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 08 2011 08:08 GMT
#68
I was watching CatZ stream earlier today, and he played like four games vs Kalu. Honestly if it was Kalu then she is one of the best terran players I've ever seen in that the play in that she combined sick mechanics mixed with real smart high level tactics.

That being said, supposedly based on replays over the last week she has either gotten like ridiculously better strategically, mechanically, and changed her hot key setup.... or someone was playing for her against CatZ today.
EzaLB
Profile Joined November 2010
United States38 Posts
July 08 2011 08:20 GMT
#69
Or cheating?
EZ
TKatzurimata
Profile Joined April 2011
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 08:24:07
July 08 2011 08:23 GMT
#70
On July 08 2011 17:20 EzaLB wrote:
Or cheating?


No, if you watched her play a week ago and compared it to last couple of days between catz and destiny she would have to have been using a micro bot in order to be cheating. The mechanics/technique were at levels of players like MKP, MVP or MMA

EDIT: Can micro bots be used while you play? im not sure =x
hid
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 08:24:36
July 08 2011 08:24 GMT
#71
If it's true that the games vs Destiny (when Destiny got 6-0'd by Kalu) and the games vs catz wasn't actually Kalu playing, I _REALLY_ want to know who was, because that play was simply amazing - and I want more of it.
autodidact
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
July 08 2011 08:24 GMT
#72
On July 08 2011 17:23 TKatzurimata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 17:20 EzaLB wrote:
Or cheating?


No, if you watched her play a week ago and compared it to last couple of days between catz and destiny she would have to have been using a micro bot in order to be cheating. The mechanics/technique were at levels of players like MKP, MVP or MMA



So kalu = MMA now?

ker-azy
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 08:28:28
July 08 2011 08:24 GMT
#73
On July 08 2011 17:20 EzaLB wrote:
Or cheating?


I don't think streamcheating gives you 200 SC2 APM and a new hotkey setup.

o.O

The way CatZ described her play was "a more intelligent Major."


On July 08 2011 17:24 hid wrote:
If it's true that the games vs Destiny (when Destiny got 6-0'd by Kalu) and the games vs catz wasn't actually Kalu playing, I _REALLY_ want to know who was, because that play was simply amazing - and I want more of it.


Inorite?

That was ridiculous. The Tank drop on the high ground with the walloff on CatZ's impromptu second base was pretty high level stuff.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
July 08 2011 08:27 GMT
#74


this is getting interesting. but i would like to see some evidence....
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
hid
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden6 Posts
July 08 2011 08:28 GMT
#75
I don't think streamcheating gives you 200 SC2 APM and a new hotkey setup.

o.O

The way CatZ described her play was "a more intelligent Major."


When Destiny compared the replays of Kalu he said that the APM was the same on the games he knew 100% it was her and the games where he got owned. Only thing that was different was the hotkey setup. Ofc players can change their hotkey setup, so it certainly isn't impossible that it is Kalu, although it does look a tad sketchy.
autodidact
hid
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 08:31:29
July 08 2011 08:30 GMT
#76
Inorite?

That was ridiculous. The Tank drop on the high ground with the walloff on CatZ's impromptu second base was pretty high level stuff.


And in the games vs Destiny where she prevented a spine burrow attempt like 4 times in a row with 2 SCVs during a 2rax bunker rush, preventing the spine burrow allowed her to snipe the hatch.

And ofc the absolutely insane high and constant pressure/multi-pronged attacks and sick micro
autodidact
MacWorld
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden227 Posts
July 08 2011 08:31 GMT
#77
On July 08 2011 17:28 hid wrote:
Show nested quote +
I don't think streamcheating gives you 200 SC2 APM and a new hotkey setup.

o.O

The way CatZ described her play was "a more intelligent Major."


Only thing that was different was the hotkey setup


And the fact that Cats got steamrolled with the 1234 Hotkey setup and won the other games with 145 Hotkeys.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 08:36:26
July 08 2011 08:34 GMT
#78
On July 08 2011 17:28 hid wrote:
Show nested quote +
I don't think streamcheating gives you 200 SC2 APM and a new hotkey setup.

o.O

The way CatZ described her play was "a more intelligent Major."


When Destiny compared the replays of Kalu he said that the APM was the same on the games he knew 100% it was her and the games where he got owned. Only thing that was different was the hotkey setup. Ofc players can change their hotkey setup, so it certainly isn't impossible that it is Kalu, although it does look a tad sketchy.


If that was her in those games, not only would I not be surprised to see her go win several tournaments, but she'd also likely be one of my favorite Terran players.

You don't see that combined with constant aggressive multipronged harass like... ever.
hid
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden6 Posts
July 08 2011 08:38 GMT
#79
If that was her in those games, not only would I not be surprised to see her go win several tournaments, but she'd also likely be one of my favorite Terran players.

You don't see that combined with constant aggressive multipronged harass like... ever.


Exactly my thoughts. After watching those Destiny games I started searching for more replays of her, and checking for a stream and stuff. Easily my new favorite TvZ player/playstyle. I just hope it either turns out to actually be her, or someone who is known to be really good, so I don't look like an ass for saying this >.<
autodidact
TKatzurimata
Profile Joined April 2011
United States17 Posts
July 08 2011 08:39 GMT
#80
On July 08 2011 17:28 hid wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't think streamcheating gives you 200 SC2 APM and a new hotkey setup.

o.O

The way CatZ described her play was "a more intelligent Major."


When Destiny compared the replays of Kalu he said that the APM was the same on the games he knew 100% it was her and the games where he got owned. Only thing that was different was the hotkey setup. Ofc players can change their hotkey setup, so it certainly isn't impossible that it is Kalu, although it does look a tad sketchy.


Yeah it isn't impossible but the mechanics, technique and all around play was leagues above what she looked like 10days before that. So IF this person wasn't Kalu I REALLY want to know who was playing for her. He/She/It was simply amazing.
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