On June 19 2011 03:57 Parnage wrote: For those who don't care about Lulzsec please note that ignoring the fact they've broken into bethesda's files, they've shut down LoL,Eve,Hon,Minecraft with ddos attacks they have no problems taking down anything they want to or at least trying to take it down.
Would you care if they did it to the battle.net servers? How about TL? How about if they hit Dreamhack mid tournament or the next MLG. Would you start caring? Because none of that stuff is out of the possibility if you look at what they've done already.
These guys are not hactivists they are not no better then street thugs who throw bricks into a shop window. Screw those guys. I hope they get jailed.
Hope they get jailed?!?! Have you ever been to jail man, ? Probably not..They will have to spend at least a few years for what they have done(or unless the CIA or some other gov agency deciedes to make a deal with them.) Personally I believe jail is never the answer to comiting crimes such as these. Just because you did something "bad" in this society you have to go live in a 5x5 cell for years to come, constantly worrying about getting anal raped or killed/hurt.
I would mind if they didd hack the stated above, It would just be fucking lame. But do I wish them to go to jail (where there is a highly likely chance of getting hurt or killed.) which in end wishing death upon them? No thanks.
They should have considered that before starting to act like pricks then, eh?
they should have considered that before they decided to BREAK THE LAW. that's how things work, you break the law, you get prosecuted, you pay/go to jail. Although, maybe the CIA will just 'rendition' them instead.
On June 19 2011 02:08 optical630 wrote: So it took 1 caped crusader to shut down lulzsec?
disapoint
The Jester isn't really someone you'd want to get on bad terms with. Unfortunately for lulzsec they attempted to include a fool in their operation and now he's a liability to the whole thing. Which is for the better in my opinion. If they target someone like the jester who's not even malicious then I don't see how they can have an ultimately good gameplan for future operations.
On June 19 2011 03:57 Parnage wrote: For those who don't care about Lulzsec please note that ignoring the fact they've broken into bethesda's files, they've shut down LoL,Eve,Hon,Minecraft with ddos attacks they have no problems taking down anything they want to or at least trying to take it down.
Would you care if they did it to the battle.net servers? How about TL? How about if they hit Dreamhack mid tournament or the next MLG. Would you start caring? Because none of that stuff is out of the possibility if you look at what they've done already.
These guys are not hactivists they are not no better then street thugs who throw bricks into a shop window. Screw those guys. I hope they get jailed.
Hope they get jailed?!?! Have you ever been to jail man, ? Probably not..They will have to spend at least a few years for what they have done(or unless the CIA or some other gov agency deciedes to make a deal with them.) Personally I believe jail is never the answer to comiting crimes such as these. Just because you did something "bad" in this society you have to go live in a 5x5 cell for years to come, constantly worrying about getting anal raped or killed/hurt.
I would mind if they didd hack the stated above, It would just be fucking lame. But do I wish them to go to jail (where there is a highly likely chance of getting hurt or killed.) which in end wishing death upon them? No thanks.
They should have considered that before starting to act like pricks then, eh?
they should have considered that before they decided to BREAK THE LAW. that's how things work, you break the law, you get prosecuted, you pay/go to jail. Although, maybe the CIA will just 'rendition' them instead.
erm no one would realy make a deal with them, why? because they are skilless little pricks, all they can do is get people to call them on skype and redirect call to random poor companies so they get mass calls, or ddos random websites(you dont need to be black hat to do that) they are no Kevin Mitnicks or anything, no one would make deals with kids like that
On June 19 2011 03:57 Parnage wrote: For those who don't care about Lulzsec please note that ignoring the fact they've broken into bethesda's files, they've shut down LoL,Eve,Hon,Minecraft with ddos attacks they have no problems taking down anything they want to or at least trying to take it down.
Would you care if they did it to the battle.net servers? How about TL? How about if they hit Dreamhack mid tournament or the next MLG. Would you start caring? Because none of that stuff is out of the possibility if you look at what they've done already.
These guys are not hactivists they are not no better then street thugs who throw bricks into a shop window. Screw those guys. I hope they get jailed.
Hope they get jailed?!?! Have you ever been to jail man, ? Probably not..They will have to spend at least a few years for what they have done(or unless the CIA or some other gov agency deciedes to make a deal with them.) Personally I believe jail is never the answer to comiting crimes such as these. Just because you did something "bad" in this society you have to go live in a 5x5 cell for years to come, constantly worrying about getting anal raped or killed/hurt.
I would mind if they didd hack the stated above, It would just be fucking lame. But do I wish them to go to jail (where there is a highly likely chance of getting hurt or killed.) which in end wishing death upon them? No thanks.
They should have considered that before starting to act like pricks then, eh?
they should have considered that before they decided to BREAK THE LAW. that's how things work, you break the law, you get prosecuted, you pay/go to jail. Although, maybe the CIA will just 'rendition' them instead.
well yeah they released 60000 password combinations and it still was some random people on the internet who are the real assholes and abuse the information
lulz just pointed out how fucked up everyone is if they face no consequence for their actions
however lulz seems to be still twittering so im not really sure the hacker war is over yet it reminds me of that one movie where the good hackers try to hack the 1 evil hacker
He's no doubt good at what he does. I just wish he wouldn't say PWNED every 3 lines. I couldn't get the "Boom headshot" pure pwnage movies out of my head when reading it and it sort of takes away from the supposed gravity of the situation.
On June 19 2011 04:17 W2 wrote: I think I am getting too old to keep up with internet/technology.
So someone not posting on twitter for 15 hours becomes very big news apparently. Also if you are good at digging up personal information you are real gangster. You get to post the name of the guy's college in true death-threat fashion. And the more info you get about him, the more street cred you got I assume?
If you break the law, do illegal things, hack stuff - you are relying on being anonymous to not get caught. Someone posting your info basically is revealing you, not being anonymous is a bad thing for such people.
Not only that, but the info can also be used to even further screw the person over.
On June 19 2011 03:57 Parnage wrote: For those who don't care about Lulzsec please note that ignoring the fact they've broken into bethesda's files, they've shut down LoL,Eve,Hon,Minecraft with ddos attacks they have no problems taking down anything they want to or at least trying to take it down.
Would you care if they did it to the battle.net servers? How about TL? How about if they hit Dreamhack mid tournament or the next MLG. Would you start caring? Because none of that stuff is out of the possibility if you look at what they've done already.
These guys are not hactivists they are not no better then street thugs who throw bricks into a shop window. Screw those guys. I hope they get jailed.
Hope they get jailed?!?! Have you ever been to jail man, ? Probably not..They will have to spend at least a few years for what they have done(or unless the CIA or some other gov agency deciedes to make a deal with them.) Personally I believe jail is never the answer to comiting crimes such as these. Just because you did something "bad" in this society you have to go live in a 5x5 cell for years to come, constantly worrying about getting anal raped or killed/hurt.
I would mind if they didd hack the stated above, It would just be fucking lame. But do I wish them to go to jail (where there is a highly likely chance of getting hurt or killed.) which in end wishing death upon them? No thanks.
They should have considered that before starting to act like pricks then, eh?
they should have considered that before they decided to BREAK THE LAW. that's how things work, you break the law, you get prosecuted, you pay/go to jail. Although, maybe the CIA will just 'rendition' them instead.
That was my point.
Just because you break the law you go to jail.?? Something in which doesnt help one another all that much to become a better person.. There should be something else other than locking one in a cage for a long period of time. Some type of theorpy or something.. I am not sure how to answer my own question, but I dont believe in locking people in cells for years is the right way.
And the for one to determine how much time you spend in prision is totally relative. Imagine if you spent 2-3 years for J-walking, Cross the Railroad tracks, Being drunk in public, disrupting the peace, etc etc
On June 19 2011 03:57 Parnage wrote: For those who don't care about Lulzsec please note that ignoring the fact they've broken into bethesda's files, they've shut down LoL,Eve,Hon,Minecraft with ddos attacks they have no problems taking down anything they want to or at least trying to take it down.
Would you care if they did it to the battle.net servers? How about TL? How about if they hit Dreamhack mid tournament or the next MLG. Would you start caring? Because none of that stuff is out of the possibility if you look at what they've done already.
These guys are not hactivists they are not no better then street thugs who throw bricks into a shop window. Screw those guys. I hope they get jailed.
Hope they get jailed?!?! Have you ever been to jail man, ? Probably not..They will have to spend at least a few years for what they have done(or unless the CIA or some other gov agency deciedes to make a deal with them.) Personally I believe jail is never the answer to comiting crimes such as these. Just because you did something "bad" in this society you have to go live in a 5x5 cell for years to come, constantly worrying about getting anal raped or killed/hurt.
I would mind if they didd hack the stated above, It would just be fucking lame. But do I wish them to go to jail (where there is a highly likely chance of getting hurt or killed.) which in end wishing death upon them? No thanks.
They should have considered that before starting to act like pricks then, eh?
they should have considered that before they decided to BREAK THE LAW. that's how things work, you break the law, you get prosecuted, you pay/go to jail. Although, maybe the CIA will just 'rendition' them instead.
That was my point.
Just because you break the law you go to jail.?? Something in which doesnt help one another all that much to become a better person.. There should be something else other than locking one in a cage for a long period of time. Some type of theorpy or something.. I am not sure how to answer my own question, but I dont believe in locking people in cells for years is the right way.
Thats too bad, because every civilized and uncivilized country believes it is.
On June 19 2011 03:57 Parnage wrote: For those who don't care about Lulzsec please note that ignoring the fact they've broken into bethesda's files, they've shut down LoL,Eve,Hon,Minecraft with ddos attacks they have no problems taking down anything they want to or at least trying to take it down.
Would you care if they did it to the battle.net servers? How about TL? How about if they hit Dreamhack mid tournament or the next MLG. Would you start caring? Because none of that stuff is out of the possibility if you look at what they've done already.
These guys are not hactivists they are not no better then street thugs who throw bricks into a shop window. Screw those guys. I hope they get jailed.
Hope they get jailed?!?! Have you ever been to jail man, ? Probably not..They will have to spend at least a few years for what they have done(or unless the CIA or some other gov agency deciedes to make a deal with them.) Personally I believe jail is never the answer to comiting crimes such as these. Just because you did something "bad" in this society you have to go live in a 5x5 cell for years to come, constantly worrying about getting anal raped or killed/hurt.
I would mind if they didd hack the stated above, It would just be fucking lame. But do I wish them to go to jail (where there is a highly likely chance of getting hurt or killed.) which in end wishing death upon them? No thanks.
They should have considered that before starting to act like pricks then, eh?
they should have considered that before they decided to BREAK THE LAW. that's how things work, you break the law, you get prosecuted, you pay/go to jail. Although, maybe the CIA will just 'rendition' them instead.
That was my point.
Just because you break the law you go to jail.?? Something in which doesnt help one another all that much to become a better person.. There should be something else other than locking one in a cage for a long period of time. Some type of theorpy or something.. I am not sure how to answer my own question, but I dont believe in locking people in cells for years is the right way.
And the for one to determine how much time you spend in prision is totally relative. Imagine if you spent 2-3 years for J-walking, Cross the Railroad tracks, Being drunk in public, disrupting the peace, etc etc
Ya lets not have a deterrent or anything so people can do what they want and we'll just be like awww if u do something bad we can give u some therapy ;D
On June 19 2011 03:57 Parnage wrote: For those who don't care about Lulzsec please note that ignoring the fact they've broken into bethesda's files, they've shut down LoL,Eve,Hon,Minecraft with ddos attacks they have no problems taking down anything they want to or at least trying to take it down.
Would you care if they did it to the battle.net servers? How about TL? How about if they hit Dreamhack mid tournament or the next MLG. Would you start caring? Because none of that stuff is out of the possibility if you look at what they've done already.
These guys are not hactivists they are not no better then street thugs who throw bricks into a shop window. Screw those guys. I hope they get jailed.
Hope they get jailed?!?! Have you ever been to jail man, ? Probably not..They will have to spend at least a few years for what they have done(or unless the CIA or some other gov agency deciedes to make a deal with them.) Personally I believe jail is never the answer to comiting crimes such as these. Just because you did something "bad" in this society you have to go live in a 5x5 cell for years to come, constantly worrying about getting anal raped or killed/hurt.
I would mind if they didd hack the stated above, It would just be fucking lame. But do I wish them to go to jail (where there is a highly likely chance of getting hurt or killed.) which in end wishing death upon them? No thanks.
They should have considered that before starting to act like pricks then, eh?
they should have considered that before they decided to BREAK THE LAW. that's how things work, you break the law, you get prosecuted, you pay/go to jail. Although, maybe the CIA will just 'rendition' them instead.
That was my point.
Just because you break the law you go to jail.?? Something in which doesnt help one another all that much to become a better person.. There should be something else other than locking one in a cage for a long period of time. Some type of theorpy or something.. I am not sure how to answer my own question, but I dont believe in locking people in cells for years is the right way.
Thats too bad, because every civilized and uncivilized country believes it is.
So that makes it right?!?!, Just because the majority of people think the same way its the right thing .. Most people arent even thinking for themselves they are just brained washed into thinking some bullshit. They are sheep and the shepards are controlling them.
On June 19 2011 03:57 Parnage wrote: For those who don't care about Lulzsec please note that ignoring the fact they've broken into bethesda's files, they've shut down LoL,Eve,Hon,Minecraft with ddos attacks they have no problems taking down anything they want to or at least trying to take it down.
Would you care if they did it to the battle.net servers? How about TL? How about if they hit Dreamhack mid tournament or the next MLG. Would you start caring? Because none of that stuff is out of the possibility if you look at what they've done already.
These guys are not hactivists they are not no better then street thugs who throw bricks into a shop window. Screw those guys. I hope they get jailed.
Hope they get jailed?!?! Have you ever been to jail man, ? Probably not..They will have to spend at least a few years for what they have done(or unless the CIA or some other gov agency deciedes to make a deal with them.) Personally I believe jail is never the answer to comiting crimes such as these. Just because you did something "bad" in this society you have to go live in a 5x5 cell for years to come, constantly worrying about getting anal raped or killed/hurt.
I would mind if they didd hack the stated above, It would just be fucking lame. But do I wish them to go to jail (where there is a highly likely chance of getting hurt or killed.) which in end wishing death upon them? No thanks.
They should have considered that before starting to act like pricks then, eh?
they should have considered that before they decided to BREAK THE LAW. that's how things work, you break the law, you get prosecuted, you pay/go to jail. Although, maybe the CIA will just 'rendition' them instead.
That was my point.
Just because you break the law you go to jail.?? Something in which doesnt help one another all that much to become a better person.. There should be something else other than locking one in a cage for a long period of time. Some type of theorpy or something.. I am not sure how to answer my own question, but I dont believe in locking people in cells for years is the right way.
And the for one to determine how much time you spend in prision is totally relative. Imagine if you spent 2-3 years for J-walking, Cross the Railroad tracks, Being drunk in public, disrupting the peace, etc etc
Ya lets not have a deterrent or anything so people can do what they want and we'll just be like awww if u do something bad we can give u some therapy ;D
Personally I am trying to help myself as best as I can, in the way that I FEEL are right, in so bettering the people around me... People make mistakes for plenty of different reasons, should they be condemmed to possible death for them.. ? Imo no, because one can always change if they have desire to do so, or are shown the "light". ^.^
These kids probably dont even know the full extent of what they are doin, how much they are actucally hurting others.
On June 19 2011 05:03 FearTheReaperMan wrote: These kids probably dont even know the full extent of what they are doin, how much they are actucally hurting others.
Pretty sure they do. Taking down the CIA website for shits and giggles? They know, they just don't care and should face the full extent of the law. Could you please take your anti-jail feelings elsewhere? It's derailing this thread from the importance of what we're really discussing.
TheJester sounds like an awesome guy, a hacker for good. I'm glad he was about to do what he has, hopefully he can continue to expose lulzsec and score a win for the good guys here.
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