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lofung
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong298 Posts
June 16 2011 12:30 GMT
#141
this is only a fundamental problem of econ301 behavioral eocnomics. go read books like freakonomics and you will get an idea.
How do you counter 13 carriers? Well first of all you gave me brain cancer. -Tasteless
Ravencruiser
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada519 Posts
June 16 2011 12:33 GMT
#142
Why u gotta do this to me/

Now whenever I drink ima think, "every time I drink, a kitten or w/e dies

damn u
"Yah, free will is a bitch" - Drone
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
June 16 2011 12:49 GMT
#143
In my opinion we just need to come together as a society and mature at earlier ages. Wine and Beer are both beverages that are drunk because of how they taste. They have their social contexts and should not be banned or stopped to be consumed.

Now hard liquor is where the big problem is imo (Whiskey, Vodka etc). It does not taste good. Any pleasure you get from drinking hard liquor is if you are feeding an addiction. The only reasons people start drinking hard liquor is to be cool or manly. The only reasons people continue to drink it are either that they have an addiction that they need to feed or that they want to numb their emotional or physical pain/stress. Alternatively they keep doing it to be cool or fit into a certain crowd.

We need to get rid of the fratboy mentality that getting drunk off your ass is something cool and awesome. It's childish and pointless. Enjoy alchoholic beverages that you think taste good, not the ones that you think makes you cool.
Verror
Profile Joined March 2011
261 Posts
June 16 2011 12:50 GMT
#144
I hate they way the OP worded the bolded part (I assume an edit?), it made an already stupid sounding post even worse.

The correlation between alcohol sales and drunk driving deaths is obvious, but there's no correlation between MY drinking and ANY drunk driving deaths.... Hell, I don't even drive.

Any1 who drives drunk is as bad as some1 who murders or... but that doesn't mean we should ban knives, as a way to reduce stabbing deaths.

It seems like the relative polls for other crimes would be...

"Would you give up cooking with knives to it meant less stabbing deaths?"
or "Would you give up sex if it meant less rapes?"

Complete BS topic.



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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
June 16 2011 12:51 GMT
#145
On June 16 2011 21:49 StarBrift wrote:
Now hard liquor is where the big problem is imo (Whiskey, Vodka etc). It does not taste good. Any pleasure you get from drinking hard liquor is if you are feeding an addiction. The only reasons people start drinking hard liquor is to be cool or manly.

OK I would have liked to contruct a well thought out argument here, but I'll just say: You are flat out and completely wrong about this.
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Dugrok
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada377 Posts
June 16 2011 12:55 GMT
#146
I'm not going to vote in the poll in an effort to not skew the results but here's my reasoning:

If I knew my not drinking alcohol would avoid deaths, I would stop almost certainly. However, seeing as I, personally, haven't killed anyone (or even come close to that) because I'm safe when I consume alcohol, I don't think that I should have to stop consuming.

And I mean, that's the fine line here. Most people won't kill anyone but there are always the select few idiots who will.

Just my 2 cents.
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
June 16 2011 13:02 GMT
#147
On June 16 2011 21:06 FFGenerations wrote:
i would ban alcohol and legalise weed any day of the week


This is possibly the stupidest idea. Driving while high is no better than driving while drunk. There is no better option here. They are both extremely bad. I really wish that people who believe that weed should be legalized would accept the fact that it is not necessarily suddenly going to fix the problems that alcohol has. Weed/alcohol are both drugs which can fuck up your perception.
samaNo4
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Spain245 Posts
June 16 2011 13:09 GMT
#148
The real question is:

¿Would you stop using manure for agriculture if it meant less car bombs?

Just to point out the stupidity of the question.

If there is stupid people that do bad things with alcohol, it's not my fault, if they use knives to kill, it's not my fault, if they drive dangerously it's not my fault.

I refuse to lose any of my privileges just because there are plenty of stupid people in the world.
And then do you know what happens all of a sudden? Trumpets!!
Carbonz
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia6 Posts
June 16 2011 13:09 GMT
#149
Would you give up driving because thousands of people die every year due to NON-alcholic road accidents???
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ZergOwaR
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway280 Posts
June 16 2011 13:10 GMT
#150
On June 16 2011 21:51 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 21:49 StarBrift wrote:
Now hard liquor is where the big problem is imo (Whiskey, Vodka etc). It does not taste good. Any pleasure you get from drinking hard liquor is if you are feeding an addiction. The only reasons people start drinking hard liquor is to be cool or manly.

OK I would have liked to contruct a well thought out argument here, but I'll just say: You are flat out and completely wrong about this.


agreed.. whiskey is the best shit ever.. tastes hellova lot better than beer...
feeding an addiction am i? I drink perhaps 2 times a month max... but whiskey is still damn great

I'm more addicted to gaming if anything...

totally invalid statement about hard liquor
dig dig dig dig dig dig die!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 16 2011 13:24 GMT
#151
On June 16 2011 22:10 ZergOwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 21:51 zatic wrote:
On June 16 2011 21:49 StarBrift wrote:
Now hard liquor is where the big problem is imo (Whiskey, Vodka etc). It does not taste good. Any pleasure you get from drinking hard liquor is if you are feeding an addiction. The only reasons people start drinking hard liquor is to be cool or manly.

OK I would have liked to contruct a well thought out argument here, but I'll just say: You are flat out and completely wrong about this.


agreed.. whiskey is the best shit ever.. tastes hellova lot better than beer...
feeding an addiction am i? I drink perhaps 2 times a month max... but whiskey is still damn great

I'm more addicted to gaming if anything...

totally invalid statement about hard liquor


I love hard liquor in certain drinks... I might have 1-2 drinks once or twice a month, and go out drinking every 2-3 months... damn, I'm such an addict...
denzelz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States604 Posts
June 16 2011 13:25 GMT
#152
I think the United States just needs to revamp its alcohol education. Too much of the alcohol culture in the U.S. is based around binge drinking or "drinking to get drunk".
Giggsy
Profile Joined July 2010
14 Posts
June 16 2011 13:31 GMT
#153
On June 16 2011 21:49 StarBrift wrote:


Now hard liquor is where the big problem is imo (Whiskey, Vodka etc). It does not taste good. Any pleasure you get from drinking hard liquor is if you are feeding an addiction.


Really? Drink a nice single malt scotch and tell me it doesn't taste good.
meadbert
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States681 Posts
June 16 2011 13:32 GMT
#154
So giving up drinking has a 1/15K probability of saving a life.

I value a life in the vicinity of $10M so that would save about $600 over the coarse of my life time.

I spend about $20/week on alcohol which is $1K/year and adds up to maybe $50K.

The financial cost is almost 100X higher than the cost in life lost so life lost is not a huge factor.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
June 16 2011 13:33 GMT
#155
Just what we need, stop drinking so we can keep getting overpopulated... I think that anything that lowers human numbers on this planet (in moderation) can't be all bad. And who doesn't love some alcohol?
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
June 16 2011 13:38 GMT
#156
We could also try to not make it socially acceptable when you drink after 2-3 beer and actually get people to stop drunk driving.
Where is my ACE flair
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
June 16 2011 13:44 GMT
#157
Since you've now edited the OP, answer me this: why should I give up drinking when I'm never harmed anyone other than myself through my alcohol consumption? Hands off my life, please.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
June 16 2011 13:49 GMT
#158
Unless you yourself are someone who drives hammered all the time, you're not preventing anything by voluntarily quiting. This thread is built on some terribly retarded logic the whole way around
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Czech Republic509 Posts
June 16 2011 13:53 GMT
#159
In america you pretty much cant smoke.Soon we wouldn be able to smoke or drink alcohol or breathing air,but decided we could shoot everyone legally possessed weapon.Why should i stop drinking?Because someone drink and drive?or someone died?Its my free choice to drink alcohol,do drugs or smoke ciggarets.
GGverySooN
Rebel_lion
Profile Joined January 2009
United States271 Posts
June 16 2011 14:04 GMT
#160
There is an inherit social hazard to drinking. I think this is in part defined by such statistics as drunk driving deaths and horror stories of hard drinking lushes who populate the ne'er do well areas of town.

Drinking is required. I drink hard, often, and in the worse way: to escape an otherwise boring and depressing existence by swamping my fears worries and troubles underneath a resilient and destructive layer of drunken bliss. Or maybe i like being social.

The shame of drinking a 1/5 to the head and passing out before noon is to juicy to just give up. Besides, people are going to die - as long as I'm slightly sure my drinking hasn't resulted in any direct deaths- I see no impetus to act.

Alcohol like any other drug, cannot be blamed for what some individuals take from it.



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