EPTThe Price of a Human Life in Terms of Alcohol - Page 10
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Tsuki.eu
Portugal1049 Posts
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Turo
Canada333 Posts
Alcohol helps sometimes. In my opinion, people who are brain dead enough to drink and drive are going to find some other way to kill people, regardless if alcohol is available or not. | ||
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MasterFischer
Denmark836 Posts
well sure it fucking is... alcohol is the direct cause of the persons mind at the time... Same thing with gun nuts saying... well.. guns dont kill people... people kill people ! Yeah.. that's true bros.. but I think the gun helps .. don't you?  If you can't ensure that people will do stupid shit... drunk or not... at least u CAN do something about what they do it with.. which is alcohol, which is legal, massly consumed and cheap... It's a weapon for some, and it will continue to be a weapon, until measures are taken. | ||
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VPCursed
1044 Posts
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MasterFischer
Denmark836 Posts
On June 17 2011 00:06 Turo wrote: Life sucks, then you die. Alcohol helps sometimes. In my opinion, people who are brain dead enough to drink and drive are going to find some other way to kill people, regardless if alcohol is available or not. You are more prone to do stupid shit while under the influence... just like several studies has shown that you are more likely to have an accident or somehow commit a crime with a firearm, a knife or another weapon that you carry or have by you... | ||
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Copymizer
Denmark2107 Posts
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Jonas :)
United States511 Posts
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GertHeart
United States631 Posts
So I'll say why I would rather have him killed, him, just he is a threat to himself and society. Or better yet for your sake I'd hope they make an affordable breathalyzer that is forced on vehicles of friends and families loved ones >.> which don't allow them to drink and drive. If Alcohol was banned, I would simply drink tea, I drink more tea than alcohol anyway, and when I make a good batch it's better than alcohol. But tea is an art and takes forever to master how to make a perfect cup. | ||
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tdynasty
Canada220 Posts
CARs KILL PEOPLE NOT Booze! Alcohol is not the worst thing out there. Tabacco is twenty times more hazardous for people. Sure it won't get people to riot or bash each other. But it does other shit to society as a whole. Alcohol is wonderful when you're having a date with a beautiful women 1 on 1. If you wanted to have good sex, you should never want to ban alcohol cause man girls "RELEASE" their inner desires easier .I will keep my riots, and keep my booze. As for drunk driving. Car's are the problem not idiots. Sure idiots are a problem too, just in their own class. | ||
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Phyxate
United States49 Posts
On June 17 2011 00:10 Jonas wrote:Dumbest thread i've ever seen. Let's get rid of driving and guns and cigarettes and condoms while we're at it, that way everyone just stays at home reading poetry and watching FOX news. It's a pretty useless thread and wishful thinking at best. People should live and let live. Taking alcohol away is out of the question so yeah, opinions from here on out are pretty meaningless because it's not going to happen. If people spent more time worrying about how to live their life and less time worrying about how other people live their lives then the world would be a much better place. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
i wouldn't give it up because its too much good. interesting math and stats on drinkers and driving fatalities. good research. unfortunately the argument is mute because it will not work. maybe it would make a good drunk driving campaign add. i love rum. | ||
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
I think this is a question of priorities, and it seems to me that this is all an issue of freedom vs security. So in determining laws, and how a society should be run, would you value security more than freedom in each case, or freedom over security? What worries me about your example is that it sets the precedent that in many other cases, security should trump freedom for the lowest common denominator (the 'dumb' people  ). In the end, people's freedoms would be limited by what "stupid" people may or may not do. Moreover I think your argument could be extended to say that we should limit all of our freedoms that carry any risk of danger. So...I would ask you, would you really want to live in a society that is limited in such a way?Personally I think that freedom is a very fundamental part of what makes us human. With freedom there are always risks, but they are worth it. You can't really experience joy without having known its opposite, and things that can be used properly can always be misused. If you want to live in a society that has no dangers, I fear that you would basically be reducing people to a state where they can't truly enjoy themselves, because there's that percentage chance that someone could use it negatively, or something could go wrong. Then you might say, well you might be happy, but there's a percentage chance that people who do this will *die*, or *kill* other people. Therefore, we should stop doing what makes us happy, because there's a chance it could go wrong, or that someone will misuse it. But then..whats the point of life at all? There would be nothing to look forward to, because everything carries a risk of being misused. You have to take the good with the bad...and for this reason I would say the focus of society should be on maintaining freedoms, and ensuring security as a *secondary* goal. So in this case, maintaining our right to drink, but then taking steps to ensure that that right can't be abused to hurt or kill themselves or other people in automobile accidents (among other possibilities). Like GertHeart posted, you could implement a system where breathalysers are used in conjunction with the ignition system, such that people who have been drinking too much aren't allowed to start their car. | ||
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bovineblitz
United States314 Posts
I'm kind of appalled that this topic was even brought up. | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
Asking "Would you give up drinking if it meant less deaths" is on par with the effectiveness of "earth hour" or dumb shit like that. This is shocking cause it happened in Canada. If this was a soccer riot it wouldn't have been as outof place as it is. People fucked up. That's life. | ||
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lithiumdeuteride
96 Posts
The proper solution to build a high-capacity public transportation system in every city, enabling people to stop using cars for day-to-day driving. Cars are more expensive (per rider), less efficient, and more dangerous than a subway or above-ground rail system. But they have the backing of the automotive industry, which, over the last century, has bought out and shut down public transportation systems in many cities. This of course benefits the automotive industry a lot more than it does the average citizen. Ultimately, it will be found that personal automobiles were a early-game blunder, like queuing up five tanks in your first factory. | ||
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5-s
United States1674 Posts
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Rakanishu2
United States475 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45339 Posts
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