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Mister360
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 16:16:17
June 06 2011 15:39 GMT
#1
Before i start i wanna apologize for my English since it isn't my first language.

I am starting to think that a lot of the small tournaments is starting to get a little boring do to the fact that it isn't like Idra vs MC level and the casters is of course not tastetosis or day9 and dj wheat that is when i came up with the idea that both players gets to have another monitor with the stream on and listening to the casters(who are casting this game as usual) i was thinking this would make for a crazy game cos they are gonna look at the stream and see exactly what the other player is doing and counter it but then the other player will see that he is countering and will make a counter himself and it would just be total chaos this is not something that i have tried but i am imagining that it would be a cool way to play a tournament. any thoughts?

ps. something something no offensive things intended something something no balance talk made :D:D:D

i just wanna make it clear that this is not intended for pros or being like an important tournament it is intended for fun
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
June 06 2011 15:40 GMT
#2
I love that this post has had 15 views and no replies.

You 14 - what are you thinking right now????
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 06 2011 15:42 GMT
#3
This could be very interesting, but most likely won't be.

This does remind me of how Day9 used to practice against maphackers though
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Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
June 06 2011 15:43 GMT
#4
That would be interesting to watch of course
Just another gold Protoss...
bueks
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany19 Posts
June 06 2011 15:46 GMT
#5
Great idea! =) There would be crazy macro games because nobody would build unit producing structures until his opponent starts with it. Somebody should try this and if it works make it happen on funday monday!
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
June 06 2011 15:47 GMT
#6
no decent player would waste their time playing like this. The thing that makes sc interesting is that both players are playing in the dark and fighting for vital information. If both players have that information we will just see direct counter after counter. No trickery or innovation would be allowed.
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Mister360
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark7 Posts
June 06 2011 15:50 GMT
#7
@NrG.NeverExpo i was thinking the same thats why it would be cool to see mediocre people play like this.
AgentSmith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada91 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 15:51:34
June 06 2011 15:51 GMT
#8
I think this could lead to pure insanity which I would love to see.
for instance in zvz close air, when players see each other, they always go hatch first. Now imagine seeing the entirety of their vision.
I'm thinking a double command center before rax tvt for both people.
This would be EPIIIIIC
I'm a total noob!
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
June 06 2011 15:58 GMT
#9
On June 07 2011 00:40 Deleuze wrote:
I love that this post has had 15 views and no replies.

You 14 - what are you thinking right now????


That this probably isn't something I want to watch? It's a funny idea I guess, but I highly doubt any good player would be interested, and without good players it would just be boring to watch.

There, I'm no longer a lurker
Dodge arrows
Halcyondaze
Profile Joined January 2011
United States509 Posts
June 06 2011 16:05 GMT
#10
Is this serious?
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 06 2011 16:08 GMT
#11
I have thought of that. I've always wondered what would happen if you could see exactly what your opponent was doing at the high level. The unit compositions would be interesting to say the least
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imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
June 06 2011 16:11 GMT
#12
I personally wouldn't enjoy watching this. I like watching a tournament where the players don't know what I know. It's exciting and fun that way. In addition, the quality of the casters would severely plummet in my opinion. There wouldn't be anything serious to cast because the units being produced would change so rapidly.

Also, good luck getting players to take this seriously. Good players won't do this style of game because it negates all the skills they have been working on developing for so long.
People who want power shouldn't have it.
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
June 06 2011 16:18 GMT
#13
I'm still waiting for news about the SC2: Brood War tournament that Chill mentioned to Sheth in TL Attack...^^
aka Wardo
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
June 06 2011 16:19 GMT
#14
It would be much easier though to just play with shared vision. No stream, and no second monitor required. I'm not sure if you can share vision with your opponent, but it shouldn't be a hard thing to implement in map editor.
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hirokashi
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom22 Posts
June 06 2011 16:20 GMT
#15
surely it would be like if two maphackers vs'd each other.. kinda crap imo since their wont be any suprising baneling busts etc, and who doesnt love a nice baneling blowing up 30 scv's.
Mephyss
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Brazil128 Posts
June 06 2011 16:21 GMT
#16
Your idea is interesting but you are complicating too much and adding some random stuff in it. what if the casters keep looking at one player more than other and so?

Easier is make a map with and remove fog of war
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 06 2011 16:24 GMT
#17
So you basically want a tournament where both players are stream cheating(although in this scenario it wouldn't be cheating)?

Erm... Okay, I guess that sounds interesting.
nShade
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria296 Posts
June 06 2011 16:25 GMT
#18
So in a way. Both players will have maphacks? :D
It would be funny if the casters unintentionally follow mostly 1 of the 2 players,
giving advantage to only one.

All the rage you can imagine. :D
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
June 06 2011 16:27 GMT
#19
As long as its not a money tournament. Having full information always is not real starcraft so players should not get real money.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
June 06 2011 16:28 GMT
#20
maphackers tourney lol sounds fun.
they are watching the minimap on the stream instead of their own ;p
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
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