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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 07:30:46
May 02 2011 07:30 GMT
#21
I don't understand the economics behind that talk. You can make profit in two ways, only doing it in the best way instead of both is the good idea? Then there is the possibility of breaking into a market, return on the investment isn't promised.
Avaloch
Profile Joined August 2010
241 Posts
May 02 2011 07:32 GMT
#22
On May 02 2011 16:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
lol blizzard please break up with activision.

You do know that Activision will never allow that right? They will never accept their cash cow leaving them high and dry.
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
May 02 2011 07:32 GMT
#23
On May 02 2011 16:27 Irrelevant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 16:20 Goldfish wrote:
I remember in an interview that Vivendi (Company that owns Blizzard) was the one that purchased Activision (Vivendi also decided to remove Blizzard North and scrap that early version of Diablo 3 too I think).

In this case, would Activison be able to affect Blizzard at all or is it Vivendi that calls the shots?

Blizz was bought by Activision, vivendi had massive debts even with wow's income


That's false. Vivendi got a majority share (52%) in Activision-Blizzard.
PackAttack
Profile Joined May 2010
United States80 Posts
May 02 2011 07:33 GMT
#24
Just in case anyone missed this and still doesn't believe that Activision is totally evil, check out this post:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128252

Their totally short-sighted approach to gaming will eventually be their downfall, or at least I can hope...
WAAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
New Zealand291 Posts
May 02 2011 07:36 GMT
#25
On May 02 2011 16:30 Yurie wrote:
I don't understand the economics behind that talk. You can make profit in two ways, only doing it in the best way instead of both is the good idea? Then there is the possibility of breaking into a market, return on the investment isn't promised.


Exactly this, I would think that if their return on the dollar was atleast like $1.20 then why would they want to change sc2. Sure other strategies may be more profitable but that doesnt mean there is reason to scrap a less (but still) profitable one. For a company like activision I'm sure they have the resources to do both..
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
May 02 2011 07:37 GMT
#26
What Activision wants is Starcraft-Ville for facebook and to revenue 2150 billion a month because stupid cunt kids can't keep their fingers out of their parents wallets and buy "Extra Sparkly Mineral Patch!" for their "Zerg Garden".

Seriously fuck Activision, fuck them through their coorporate pants.
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CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 07:40:56
May 02 2011 07:40 GMT
#27
nvm
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Igaryu85
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany195 Posts
May 02 2011 07:43 GMT
#28
Yeah Activision should just go to hell and let Blizzard be as good as they used to be.
Selith
Profile Joined September 2010
United States238 Posts
May 02 2011 07:44 GMT
#29
Welcome to unrestricted, unlimited capitalism -- where the greed knows literally no limit.
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
May 02 2011 07:44 GMT
#30
Marketing is going more and more this way. I just hope SC2's expansions come out before SC2 gets dragged into this. If there ever become premium portraits or units or ANYTHING, I'll practically quit SC2 immediately.
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duracell
Profile Joined April 2011
53 Posts
May 02 2011 07:45 GMT
#31
On May 02 2011 16:36 WAAA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 16:30 Yurie wrote:
I don't understand the economics behind that talk. You can make profit in two ways, only doing it in the best way instead of both is the good idea? Then there is the possibility of breaking into a market, return on the investment isn't promised.


Exactly this, I would think that if their return on the dollar was atleast like $1.20 then why would they want to change sc2. Sure other strategies may be more profitable but that doesnt mean there is reason to scrap a less (but still) profitable one. For a company like activision I'm sure they have the resources to do both..



Don't be so sure on it -- they have limited resources in their relative sense, and producing a couple of random games using resources Starcraft 2 is taking up could easily be a better return, especially considering most games don't need technical support the way SC2 will for years to come.

WoW is just raking in such a ridiculous amount of revenue that anything else seems like chump change to them, and you can't really blame them for trying to apply some of the things that made WoW a financial success into SC2. All that stuff about loyal fanbase....well it seems like they're cashing in on it now.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 02 2011 07:47 GMT
#32
On May 02 2011 16:44 Wolf wrote:
Marketing is going more and more this way. I just hope SC2's expansions come out before SC2 gets dragged into this. If there ever become premium portraits or units or ANYTHING, I'll practically quit SC2 immediately.


portraits I don't care about, but if they ever did that for like multiplayer or something (units, maps, etc). I would be very disappointed. I do not think Blizzard well let that happen, and can only hope. I really hate activision and was sad too see blizzard merge with them. Their just a bad company, a lot worse then EA thats for sure.
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MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
May 02 2011 07:49 GMT
#33
and the gaming community moves further and further towards casual farmville/facebook style crap.
eventually every game will simply require a button to press and everyone will be a winner.

increasingly depressed by what gaming has become, given it has been my only focus since i was 10. to see it in this state... waste of my life.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 02 2011 07:49 GMT
#34
On May 02 2011 16:47 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 16:44 Wolf wrote:
Marketing is going more and more this way. I just hope SC2's expansions come out before SC2 gets dragged into this. If there ever become premium portraits or units or ANYTHING, I'll practically quit SC2 immediately.


portraits I don't care about, but if they ever did that for like multiplayer or something (units, maps, etc). I would be very disappointed. I do not think Blizzard well let that happen, and can only hope. I really hate activision and was sad too see blizzard merge with them. Their just a bad company, a lot worse then EA thats for sure.

Well, I did read in an interview that they are probably going to scrap or at least delay indefinitely the map marketplace idea, so perhaps that might be a decent sign.
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
May 02 2011 07:51 GMT
#35
On May 02 2011 16:20 Goldfish wrote:
I remember in an interview that Vivendi (Company that owns Blizzard) was the one that purchased Activision (Vivendi also decided to remove Blizzard North and scrap that early version of Diablo 3 too I think).

In this case, would Activison be able to affect Blizzard at all or is it Vivendi that calls the shots?


I found the interview Link to Diablo Inc (Which Flux posted about):

MCV: Has life changed, post-Activision merger? Activision said they’d bought Blizzard because they liked how you operated and they’d leave you alone – and it turned out that this wasn’t BS.

Frank Pearce: Don’t say Activision bought Blizzard – now you’ve got Mike riled…
Mike Morhaime: Our parent company Vivendi bought Activision.


MCV: Well, after whatever happened happened, what’s life been like?

Mike Morhaime: We wouldn’t have supported the merger had we not believed Bobby and Activision understood how special Blizzard is and weren’t supportive of our values. We were convinced that they did, that the two businesses were complementary and that we wouldn’t be giving up our creative autonomy in any way. And that’s exactly how it has panned out.

MCV: How do you feel when Bobby takes flak for not being sympathetic or empathetic to the creative elements of this industry?

Mike Morhaime: I have an advantage there because I know Bobby personally and we have very long, in-depth conversations, so my view of him is not limited to small sound bites taken out of context. I can tell you that Bobby has been very supportive of Blizzard and that we have a great relationship with him. I don’t think the public image that some people have of him is fair or accurate.
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Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
May 02 2011 07:53 GMT
#36
On May 02 2011 16:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
lol blizzard please break up with activision.

;_________; yess pls
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Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2014 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 07:56:12
May 02 2011 07:55 GMT
#37
On May 02 2011 16:44 Wolf wrote:
Marketing is going more and more this way. I just hope SC2's expansions come out before SC2 gets dragged into this. If there ever become premium portraits or units or ANYTHING, I'll practically quit SC2 immediately.


Are you stupid or what? Does it hurt you if before the game on loading screen your opponent has a different colored / new / unique portrait? It will make you lose the game? It will make him overpowered, faster or stronger? Not like blizz will ever let it happen to buy "better" units.

Think for the sake of the human race already.

User was temp banned for this post.
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
May 02 2011 07:55 GMT
#38
Activision should take care of their own problems.
They didn't release a proper game in years and are soon to be overrun by Battlefield 3.
Cya stupid CoD series, only CoD 4 was cool
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
May 02 2011 07:56 GMT
#39
Worth pointing out that (a) we don't know what the CFO actually said, it may have been a more nuanced comment, and (b) CFOs don't normally run the business. They're key executives with useful input, but they don't call the shots.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Ksi
Profile Joined May 2010
357 Posts
May 02 2011 07:58 GMT
#40
On May 02 2011 16:56 Lysenko wrote:
Worth pointing out that (a) we don't know what the CFO actually said, it may have been a more nuanced comment, and (b) CFOs don't normally run the business. They're key executives with useful input, but they don't call the shots.


Yes, but do you think Bobby Kotick is any less greedy and money-grubbing than the CFO? I really hope this doesn't lead to Blizzard making console trash or ridiculous money whoring subscriptions.
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