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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3546 Posts
November 06 2011 16:49 GMT
#1501
Saw a third place from Sen at Blizzcon. Which is the best result you can expect from any foreigner, with MVP and Nestea there.
We don't see as much from Sen, but everytime we see him, we can see that he's the top foreigner Zerg.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Noak3
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States236 Posts
November 06 2011 16:51 GMT
#1502
On November 07 2011 01:19 Bippzy wrote:
Where is leenock? Hes Pretty dayum good, espiecially compared to some of the others in the poll. But yeah i guess nestea, even though he seems to be greedy as fuck sometimes and if people do an all in, which they dont, he wud lose. But thas just me


He's greedy as fuck because he's so good at scouting that he knows exactly when a push is coming and he'll know if an allin is coming.
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MGN
Profile Joined June 2011
France383 Posts
November 06 2011 16:53 GMT
#1503
On November 07 2011 01:41 MrDudeMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 01:19 MGN wrote:
On November 07 2011 01:04 pPingu wrote:
On November 07 2011 00:49 MCDayC wrote:
Stephano has beaten HuK multiple times, he beat MarineKing, former Code S player Violet, 4-0ed Lucky, he also beat TheStC, who knocked Idra out of IPL3 and came 3rd at MLG Orlando, oh and he beat Inori for good measure. Nestea is obviously the Zerg King, but people who dismiss Stephano after the last couple of months are idiotic.


Huk is not really the most consistent player. He can play really well or really bad and seems to be really affected by traveling.

He beat MKP on an online qualifier, we never know if there was latency problem for either player, and beat him at eswc, where MKP was even more jetlaged and didn't have as much preparation time as he usually has.

Violet never had any impressive results when he was in code s and I believe he isn't even in code a anymore.

Lucky worst MU is zvz.

Thestc beat stephano at mlg just after thewind told him what stephano weaknesses were.

Inori is bad at pvz, and if I remember well the games were close.

I'm not saying that he is bad or he is not the best foreigner, just that he didn't have any victory where I can really think that we can count him as being as good as many people seem to think he is.

The best way to know if a foreigner is really good is living in korea and participate to GSL. So nobody has the excuse being jetlaged and the players have time to practice for their opponents, which shows who is really better IMO.


He beat MKP offline, please before talking know what ur saying...


He said he beat him at ESWC, please read next time.



nvm, im too tired of people talking without even knowing any results, but nvm nvm
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 06 2011 16:54 GMT
#1504
Where is stephano?
I mean, he may not be the best, but he should be on that poll.
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darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
November 06 2011 16:58 GMT
#1505
It just depends on the matchups for the #2 spot really. Idra has trouble with ZvP, DRG has trouble with ZvP, Losira has trouble with ZvT... ZvZ is coinflips all around. Stephano hasn't really been proven vs top level koreans yet, imo.
sjh
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada136 Posts
November 06 2011 17:04 GMT
#1506
Definitely a Game of Drones
Ceterum ceseo Protatem esse delendam
taoito
Profile Joined July 2011
65 Posts
November 06 2011 17:06 GMT
#1507
Can't believe there are people who voted Idra as the Zerg King.

He's unquestionably the NA Zerg King, but they need to be reminded that there exists other places outside than NA lol.
These maybe very well the same people who think USA is the only country in the world
DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
November 06 2011 17:07 GMT
#1508
you are missing so many good korean zergs -_-
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3546 Posts
November 06 2011 17:08 GMT
#1509
It just depends on the matchups for the #2 spot really. Idra has trouble with ZvP, DRG has trouble with ZvP, Losira has trouble with ZvT... ZvZ is coinflips all around. Stephano hasn't really been proven vs top level koreans yet, imo.

IGN Stephano first beat, Violet 2-0, then Inori 2-1, then TheSTC 3-1, then Lucky 4-0.
ESWC he beat Marineking.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
November 06 2011 17:10 GMT
#1510
On November 07 2011 02:06 taoito wrote:
Can't believe there are people who voted Idra as the Zerg King.

He's unquestionably the NA Zerg King, but they need to be reminded that there exists other places outside than NA lol.
These maybe very well the same people who think USA is the only country in the world

Maybe they vote him because he is top3 foreign zerg? Top5 foreign in general?

It is silly to vote anything but Nestea as Zerg King as of now... At least in terms of skill
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Vond
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Sweden145 Posts
November 06 2011 17:11 GMT
#1511
so when someone says he beat a lot of code s players, they actually mean code a & b players who are as good as code s? ok i got it.


No, I obviously meant the Code S players that were mentioned in other replies that you chose to ignore for some reason.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
November 06 2011 17:12 GMT
#1512
On November 07 2011 02:08 ejozl wrote:
Show nested quote +
It just depends on the matchups for the #2 spot really. Idra has trouble with ZvP, DRG has trouble with ZvP, Losira has trouble with ZvT... ZvZ is coinflips all around. Stephano hasn't really been proven vs top level koreans yet, imo.

IGN Stephano first beat, Violet 2-0, then Inori 2-1, then TheSTC 3-1, then Lucky 4-0.
ESWC he beat Marineking.

Oh yes that is quite the scary match up of Top Koreans! Oh wait...

Except MKP those aren't really the top, or even close to the top.
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Ghrimnar
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany260 Posts
November 06 2011 17:15 GMT
#1513
Stephano has not beaten any top Korean. MKP is inconsistent, everybody knows it. MVP/Nestea/Bomber/MC and maybe a few more are the top Koreans. You gotta beat them to be consindered one of the best.
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Finnz
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom260 Posts
November 06 2011 17:16 GMT
#1514
I said nestea for obvious reasons BUT Idra is looking great recently and i think if he continues to improve then Idra has a chance to take over as the best Zerg player on the circuit.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 17:19:41
November 06 2011 17:16 GMT
#1515
On November 07 2011 02:10 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 02:06 taoito wrote:
Can't believe there are people who voted Idra as the Zerg King.

He's unquestionably the NA Zerg King, but they need to be reminded that there exists other places outside than NA lol.
These maybe very well the same people who think USA is the only country in the world

Maybe they vote him because he is top3 foreign zerg? Top5 foreign in general?

It is silly to vote anything but Nestea as Zerg King as of now... At least in terms of skill


Imo, it goes like this

1.- NesTea
2.- DRG
3.- Losira

I don't think there's any way either Stephano or Idra can be placed top 3 overall right now. The rest would go on sth like this:

4.- CoCa
5.- Curious
6.- July
7.- Idra
8.- Sen
9.- Stephano
10.- DIMAGA

Whether the foreigners listed can go in the top 5... I don't know, I find the korean zergs more solid overall, and the foreigners need to step into korea to prove themselves yet. Out of those listed, I think Stephano and DIMAGA have the biggest potential, but DIMAGA doesn't want to go to korea so I think his level won't rise too much.

Then there's other korean zergs like BBongBBong, Line, JookTo, Seal, which are pretty difficult to rank considering how little we get to see them, but they've shown insane potential.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
November 06 2011 17:21 GMT
#1516
On November 07 2011 02:16 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 02:10 Aocowns wrote:
On November 07 2011 02:06 taoito wrote:
Can't believe there are people who voted Idra as the Zerg King.

He's unquestionably the NA Zerg King, but they need to be reminded that there exists other places outside than NA lol.
These maybe very well the same people who think USA is the only country in the world

Maybe they vote him because he is top3 foreign zerg? Top5 foreign in general?

It is silly to vote anything but Nestea as Zerg King as of now... At least in terms of skill


Imo, it goes like this

1.- NesTea
2.- DRG
3.- Losira

I don't think there's any way either Stephano or Idra can be placed top 3 overall right now. The rest would go on sth like this:

4.- CoCa
5.- Curious
6.- July
7.- Idra
8.- Sen
9.- Stephano
10.- DIMAGA

Whether the foreigners listed can go in the top 5... I don't know, I find the korean zergs more solid overall, and the foreigners need to step into korea to prove themselves yet. Out of those listed, I think Stephano and DIMAGA have the biggest potential, but DIMAGA doesn't want to go to korea so I think his level won't rise too much.

No, obviously none of the foreign Zergs can touch the top Korean Zergs, but I responded that Idra was top3 FOREIGN zerg and overall top 5 FOREIGNER.

I haven't seen much of any of the Koreans, as I don't follow GSL sadly. BUT from what I have seen, July isn't that good. Should be placed a spot further down. I have not seen anything of Curious at all, so dunno if he should be placed that high either? I don't think Dimaga has that huge of a potential., I think Idra and Stephano have the biggest potential of the foreign zergs
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
November 06 2011 17:28 GMT
#1517
I feel like Nestea is undoubtably number 1 ATM, but that DongRaeGu is closing in on him quite fast with Losira in 3rd, with Idra and Stephano tying for best foreigner
silentblob
Profile Joined June 2011
Great Britain40 Posts
November 06 2011 17:58 GMT
#1518
errrrrrr DRG TvZ anyone?
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
November 06 2011 18:01 GMT
#1519
NA King: Idra
EU King: Stephano
KR King: Nestea

Overall King: Nestea.

ZvT King: DRG or Nestea
ZvP King: Nestea, Losira
ZvZ King: Nestea, none are close.
ChanmanV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1156 Posts
November 06 2011 18:05 GMT
#1520
Nestea best zerg in the world and Stefano is the best foreigner (mainly because Idra is just so bad ZvP). Id still like to see Nestea play in a MLG environment where there are so many games in a day (like he did in BlizzCon) where you don't have days to prepare for your opponent. Id like to see how he can adjust to opponents he does not have a scouting report on.
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