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On November 06 2011 17:25 Gotmog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 16:54 kofman wrote:On November 06 2011 15:59 Gotmog wrote:On November 06 2011 15:41 rysecake wrote:On November 06 2011 15:36 Gotmog wrote: To me, Zerg King would have to be more then just the best player. So i am putting Idra out there. Best mechanically, the most famous, most outspoken, in touch with community non stop, consistent results (even during his long slump).
However, I'd consider Nestea, DRG better then him. (and Losira/Sen/Stephano closer to him, can't call it right now). Many of these don't even make sense. Best mechanically? No. There are korean zergs with better mechanics. Most famous? No I'd say Nestea is more famous. Most outspoken? Yes he has his way with words. Consistent results? No. In touch with the community non-stop? Depends in what way... Its not my fault your opinion is wrong  idra fanboys are sooo annoying... hes not anywhere close to being as good as the top koreans. Thats why you have this poll. I am an unreasonably fanatical IdrA-loving moron. (561) 60%
I am a retardedly biased Idra-hating dumbass. (376) 40%You have to pick one. Claiming that he is not anywhere near top koreans is ... silly. Yea he is good but till he proofs himself in the GSL again i don't think you can claim stuff based on other experiences It doesn't matter if you can stomp foreigners/ code A. The real challenges are in code S, the best of the best where you claim idra is in. Let's wait till he comes back to korea (which is soon anyway) before saying he is close to top koreans.
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On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/
Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that.
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stephano and myself are tied for 2nd behind nestea..
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On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA?
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On November 07 2011 00:22 Silidons wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA? tardo.... for example MMA at the qualifiers for IPL 3? and you know there were koreans at ipl3? gosh some people should get banned for total stupidity
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On November 07 2011 00:22 Silidons wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA? He did beat MMA during the online qualifiers but not at a LAN.
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On November 07 2011 00:25 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 00:22 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA? He did beat MMA during the online qualifiers but not at a LAN. Bo? 1? What server did they play on?
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Nestea - Zerg King Stephano - Zerg Prince Idra - Zerg Geisha ^_^
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On November 06 2011 23:57 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 17:25 Gotmog wrote:On November 06 2011 16:54 kofman wrote:On November 06 2011 15:59 Gotmog wrote:On November 06 2011 15:41 rysecake wrote:On November 06 2011 15:36 Gotmog wrote: To me, Zerg King would have to be more then just the best player. So i am putting Idra out there. Best mechanically, the most famous, most outspoken, in touch with community non stop, consistent results (even during his long slump).
However, I'd consider Nestea, DRG better then him. (and Losira/Sen/Stephano closer to him, can't call it right now). Many of these don't even make sense. Best mechanically? No. There are korean zergs with better mechanics. Most famous? No I'd say Nestea is more famous. Most outspoken? Yes he has his way with words. Consistent results? No. In touch with the community non-stop? Depends in what way... Its not my fault your opinion is wrong  idra fanboys are sooo annoying... hes not anywhere close to being as good as the top koreans. Thats why you have this poll. I am an unreasonably fanatical IdrA-loving moron. (561) 60%
I am a retardedly biased Idra-hating dumbass. (376) 40%You have to pick one. Claiming that he is not anywhere near top koreans is ... silly. Yea he is good but till he proofs himself in the GSL again i don't think you can claim stuff based on other experiences It doesn't matter if you can stomp foreigners/ code A. The real challenges are in code S, the best of the best where you claim idra is in. Let's wait till he comes back to korea (which is soon anyway) before saying he is close to top koreans. Weeeell... Bomber...
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On November 07 2011 00:29 Silidons wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 00:25 Fusilero wrote:On November 07 2011 00:22 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA? He did beat MMA during the online qualifiers but not at a LAN. Bo? 1? What server did they play on? They played a BO3 with MMA having server lag and a weird timezone. Stephano has not won againt any gerat Code S playersd as of yet.(Unless I am forgetting someone)
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On November 07 2011 00:25 gwaihir wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 00:22 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA? tardo.... for example MMA at the qualifiers for IPL 3? and you know there were koreans at ipl3? gosh some people should get banned for total stupidity There were Koreans at IPL3, but Stephano kind of lucked out and went against just TheStC(Not Code S) and Lucky(Not Code S)
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On November 07 2011 00:33 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 00:29 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:25 Fusilero wrote:On November 07 2011 00:22 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA? He did beat MMA during the online qualifiers but not at a LAN. Bo? 1? What server did they play on? They played a BO3 with MMA having server lag and a weird timezone. Stephano has not won againt any gerat Code S playersd as of yet.(Unless I am forgetting someone)
2-0'd Huk, beat MKP twice i believe
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On November 07 2011 00:34 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 00:25 gwaihir wrote:On November 07 2011 00:22 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA? tardo.... for example MMA at the qualifiers for IPL 3? and you know there were koreans at ipl3? gosh some people should get banned for total stupidity There were Koreans at IPL3, but Stephano kind of lucked out and went against just TheStC(Not Code S) and Lucky(Not Code S)
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People need to realize someday that lot of code A players and even code B are actually betters than half the code S players
edit : or even at least
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On November 07 2011 00:36 xi Tempest x wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 00:33 Aocowns wrote:On November 07 2011 00:29 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:25 Fusilero wrote:On November 07 2011 00:22 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA? He did beat MMA during the online qualifiers but not at a LAN. Bo? 1? What server did they play on? They played a BO3 with MMA having server lag and a weird timezone. Stephano has not won againt any gerat Code S playersd as of yet.(Unless I am forgetting someone) 2-0'd Huk, beat MKP twice i believe When did he beat MKP? D: That's awesome. But Huk has had varying results recently. Amazing at MLG, then totally shit at ASUS ROG for example. Still a 2-0 over Huk is impressive
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On November 07 2011 00:22 Silidons wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA?
This is the run he had through IPL3. He beat MANY great Code S players. Of course though, since this isn't a Code S setting (where you have to prepare a lot for each match) this doesn't show how well he'll do in GSL, but it's still a good indicator that this dude is GOOD.
Stephano 2-0 Anypro Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival Stephano 2-0 Puzzle Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA Stephano 2-0 Huk Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky
As you can see he beats MKP, MMA, Huk, TheSTC... and slightly less great players but still great, Violet and Puzzle. Heck, these are just Code S players, he beat the Code A players too like Revival and Lucky. What foreigner could do that in the same run?
On November 07 2011 00:39 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 00:36 xi Tempest x wrote:On November 07 2011 00:33 Aocowns wrote:On November 07 2011 00:29 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:25 Fusilero wrote:On November 07 2011 00:22 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA? He did beat MMA during the online qualifiers but not at a LAN. Bo? 1? What server did they play on? They played a BO3 with MMA having server lag and a weird timezone. Stephano has not won againt any gerat Code S playersd as of yet.(Unless I am forgetting someone) 2-0'd Huk, beat MKP twice i believe When did he beat MKP? D: That's awesome. But Huk has had varying results recently. Amazing at MLG, then totally shit at ASUS ROG for example. Still a 2-0 over Huk is impressive
I think his match vs MKP was in the online qualifiers, but still he beat MKP haha. Another thing to note is that since it's commonly agreed that MKP does better online (since he apparently gets nervous on stage), it makes Stephano's win vs him even more meaningful.
But just to emphasize again... HE BEAT FRIGGIN MMA!
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On November 07 2011 00:37 MGN wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 00:34 Aocowns wrote:On November 07 2011 00:25 gwaihir wrote:On November 07 2011 00:22 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA? tardo.... for example MMA at the qualifiers for IPL 3? and you know there were koreans at ipl3? gosh some people should get banned for total stupidity There were Koreans at IPL3, but Stephano kind of lucked out and went against just TheStC(Not Code S) and Lucky(Not Code S) ... People need to realize someday that lot of code A players and even code B are actually betters than half the code S players edit : or even at least Neither StC nor Lucky is Code S...
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On November 07 2011 00:39 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 00:36 xi Tempest x wrote:On November 07 2011 00:33 Aocowns wrote:On November 07 2011 00:29 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:25 Fusilero wrote:On November 07 2011 00:22 Silidons wrote:On November 07 2011 00:02 Vond wrote:On November 06 2011 17:01 hunts wrote:On November 06 2011 16:05 Silv.user wrote: ehm. why not option not on list etc? Stephano beats all here except Nestea. stephano doesnt have anywhere near the results of idra or sen, and he's not as good as either one of them to be prefectly honest :/ Huh? Stephano has excellent results lately, won big tournaments, beat lots of Code S players (including current Code S champion). I can't really say if he's better than Idra or Sen since I feel they're all quite even. NesTea is ofcoure undisputed #1 however. No point in arguing that. IPL3 is a big tournament ONLY for foreigners. Not koreans. Please list off the "lots of Code S players" and when did he beat MMA? He did beat MMA during the online qualifiers but not at a LAN. Bo? 1? What server did they play on? They played a BO3 with MMA having server lag and a weird timezone. Stephano has not won againt any gerat Code S playersd as of yet.(Unless I am forgetting someone) 2-0'd Huk, beat MKP twice i believe When did he beat MKP? D: That's awesome. But Huk has had varying results recently. Amazing at MLG, then totally shit at ASUS ROG for example. Still a 2-0 over Huk is impressive Stephano beat him at ESWC.
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stephano is never the zerg king. neither is idra. nestea still the best.
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