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On May 14 2011 23:40 dunc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 23:37 Alpina wrote:On May 14 2011 23:03 War Horse wrote:On May 14 2011 22:20 Alpina wrote:On May 14 2011 21:55 cuppatea wrote:On May 14 2011 21:47 Alpina wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So nestea won and now he is zerg king. Lol that's so funny... I can guarantee if he would lost to inca noone would say that he is zerg king Firstly, he was already the best Zerg before this and the only reason he wasn't dominating the poll is because of the massive pro-Idra bias that exists on this forum. Secondly, no shit he's the king after winning the GSL. That tournament is the benchmark in SC2 and any player who has won it so far has been considered the best of their race at that time. No other Zerg besides FruitDealer (who was the best at the time but has since been surpassed) has even come close to winning a GSL and now NesTea has won 2. I just want to say that winning vs. player who played horribly bad does not mean much. I don't say he isn't best zerg in the world right now, but that is so funny to hear ppl immediatly starting calling someone king just by winning few games, no matter how those games went  WHO HAS IDRA BEATEN IN ANY TOURNAMENT HE WON? He's won IPL, which had a very weak player pool. Weak pool? There were good players. And the main thing is how the players played. + Show Spoiler +if player does DTs rush every single game and each fails then I don't know what to think about such player Kiwi played worse than Inca, every player in the IPL was worse than the weakest player in the GSL. hardly, there are some people in the gsl that dont belong.. and even then kiwi is pretty decent.
nestea is the best zerg right now.. but hes hardly on a throne id say, no bonjwa or anything.
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btw, Nestea was knocked out of starswars because he didn't use same builds that he has been used in GSL. He mentioned that like 2~3 weeks ago.
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After a second gsl win, in a supposed dark time for zerg again nestea shows he is by far the best zerg. Losira prob second and you can argue a lot of people after that, but none really stands out. I'd probably say fd if pressed since he has results on the biggest stage and has been as consistent as idra was able to after that.
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On May 15 2011 09:57 bigjenk wrote: After a second gsl win, in a supposed dark time for zerg again nestea shows he is by far the best zerg. Losira prob second and you can argue a lot of people after that, but none really stands out. I'd probably say fd if pressed since he has results on the biggest stage and has been as consistent as idra was able to after that.
Please stop perpetuating that nonsensical crap of "Dark time for zerg". The dark time may have even ended before, but it was sure as hell over once the infestor buff hit.
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On May 15 2011 10:09 Spacekyod wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 09:57 bigjenk wrote: After a second gsl win, in a supposed dark time for zerg again nestea shows he is by far the best zerg. Losira prob second and you can argue a lot of people after that, but none really stands out. I'd probably say fd if pressed since he has results on the biggest stage and has been as consistent as idra was able to after that. Please stop perpetuating that nonsensical crap of "Dark time for zerg". The dark time may have even ended before, but it was sure as hell over once the infestor buff hit. I'm pretty sure bigjenk didn't mean to imply that there's a dark time for the Zerg atm. (Note the use of the word "supposed" in the post. Of course, I could be wrong, but that's how I read it.)
But yeah. Dark time, my ass. The dark time was during FD's run through GSL1. It's been over for a while now.
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On May 15 2011 10:09 Spacekyod wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 09:57 bigjenk wrote: After a second gsl win, in a supposed dark time for zerg again nestea shows he is by far the best zerg. Losira prob second and you can argue a lot of people after that, but none really stands out. I'd probably say fd if pressed since he has results on the biggest stage and has been as consistent as idra was able to after that. Please stop perpetuating that nonsensical crap of "Dark time for zerg". The dark time may have even ended before, but it was sure as hell over once the infestor buff hit.
The GSL translator/interviewer mentioned the "Dark time for zerg." Take it up with him.
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I think right now it's a toss up between Nestea and Idra, but neither are consistent enough in all match-ups to really be considered the king. Maybe in a few more months we will have a true king.
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The English speaking and Korean communities obviously have different opinions on the game in Korea they probably think zerg is super weak right now.
It could stem from the different play styles Koreans have always been known for a straightforward macro style while foreigners are know for more "creative" cheesy play.
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On May 15 2011 10:35 Jeffsekai wrote: I think right now it's a toss up between Nestea and Idra, but neither are consistent enough in all match-ups to really be considered the king. Maybe in a few more months we will have a true king. I advise you to look at his TLPD stats and reconsider. His ZvZ and ZvP is just as good as MC's PvP or PvZ.
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On May 15 2011 10:35 Jeffsekai wrote: I think right now it's a toss up between Nestea and Idra, but neither are consistent enough in all match-ups to really be considered the king. Maybe in a few more months we will have a true king.
I advise you to stop smoking whatever you're smoking. Nestea is the king, with over 85% winrates in vP and vZ, and with an extremely solid ZvT to boot (view Nestea vs sC).
Nestea is GOD Zerg.
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FAT ZERG LOVE!!! xD gogo july!!! i love him xD
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It amazes me how highly alot of you rate Idra, the IPL was lacking in talent and probably akin to a go4SC2 EU tourny. Outside of this recently he lost r1 in TSL and HD tournament, r2 at Dreamhack. MLG Dallas he went 2-2 in his group then beat Huk and lost to TLO. I forget where he finished in the IEM thing but it wasnt impressive. You cannot compare him to Nestea, July or Losira.
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On May 15 2011 10:49 Aristodemus wrote: It amazes me how highly alot of you rate Idra, the IPL was lacking in talent and probably akin to a go4SC2 EU tourny. Outside of this recently he lost r1 in TSL and HD tournament, r2 at Dreamhack. MLG Dallas he went 2-2 in his group then beat Huk and lost to TLO. I forget where he finished in the IEM thing but it wasnt impressive. You cannot compare him to Nestea, July or Losira.
Eh a lot of people voted way before GSL May took place
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I said it before nestea is the best.
I lol at fanboys who think Idra is even top 3
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I find it funny how the majority of TL had to use stats from a competition to see a player's true skill. IdrA is my favorite Zerg, but I will not be ignorant and call him king just because I am a fan. Nestea obviously reigns as the Zerg king right now.
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We clearly need an official IdrA vs. NesTea match. None of that dicking-around-on-the-ladder business.
Damn. I would pay to watch that, ngl.
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After yesterday's GSL, I would say Nestea, followed by Idra.
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Bong tier NesTea
Top Tier losira july idra sen
2nd to top tier dimaga zenio ret moon fruitdealer
Pretty much in that order, too, although you could have a good argument re-arranging anyone in any of the tiers.
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Oh right this thread
Looks like your question was answered!
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