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Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
May 07 2011 09:56 GMT
#881
On May 07 2011 18:41 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 18:34 Xtal wrote:
The Zerg King is... Nerchio

He's number 1 in SC2 ELO and he's peaking in all 3 match-ups.

How can you argue??

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1771_Nerchio


Sc2 international index. Sorry, Nestea is the undisputed king.

Pretty sure this guy is disputing it.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
May 07 2011 09:59 GMT
#882
I really really hope Nestea wins the GSL just to hear what Idra has to say about it -.-
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 07 2011 09:59 GMT
#883
On May 07 2011 18:50 5ukkub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 18:41 ch33psh33p wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 07 2011 18:34 Xtal wrote:
The Zerg King is... Nerchio

He's number 1 in SC2 ELO and he's peaking in all 3 match-ups.

How can you argue??

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1771_Nerchio


Sc2 international index. Sorry, Nestea is the undisputed king.


I don't see Nestea in top 50 even so...
or maybe you were talking about the Korean ranking?
Now it comes to if Korean ELO is superior to the international one.

Ace is 2nd place and was 1st for a long time

how is international TLPD even remotely as accurate as the korean one? not to mention Nerchio's quality of opponents isn't nearly as impressive
zende
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden234 Posts
May 07 2011 10:04 GMT
#884
nestea looks so cool. THE king!
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-07 10:13:23
May 07 2011 10:10 GMT
#885
On May 07 2011 18:59 Itsmedudeman wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 07 2011 18:50 5ukkub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 18:41 ch33psh33p wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 07 2011 18:34 Xtal wrote:
The Zerg King is... Nerchio

He's number 1 in SC2 ELO and he's peaking in all 3 match-ups.

How can you argue??

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1771_Nerchio


Sc2 international index. Sorry, Nestea is the undisputed king.


I don't see Nestea in top 50 even so...
or maybe you were talking about the Korean ranking?
Now it comes to if Korean ELO is superior to the international one.

Ace is 2nd place and was 1st for a long time

how is international TLPD even remotely as accurate as the korean one? not to mention Nerchio's quality of opponents isn't nearly as impressive


Well, the Korean one has Korean tournaments only, but better ask the TLPD editor staff, they know better what is accurate.

About Nerchio, he is now on fire 3-0 ing people left and right. Just lurk through eartler posts of this thread or TLPD or google even to see which players he was playing and winning with.
One thing is, Nerchio has to prove his play on LANs yet.
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
May 07 2011 10:11 GMT
#886
IdrA is amazing and for sure at the top of the foreigner scene. But as already stated in this thread, the foreign Zerg players still have ways to go before they're close to the current level of the Korean ones. So if you ask me, it's Nestea, LosirA and July. In that order.
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
May 07 2011 10:19 GMT
#887
Savior - Ma Jae Yoon
Jaedong - Lee Jae Dong
Nestea - Lim Jae Duk

Should be obvious lol.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-07 10:21:59
May 07 2011 10:21 GMT
#888
Am i mistaken or Overmind's second name is Jae ?
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
shire
Profile Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
May 07 2011 10:23 GMT
#889
On May 07 2011 19:21 5ukkub wrote:
Am i mistaken or Overmind's second name is Jae ?



not many people know this but

Over(first name) Jae(middle name) Mind(last name)

but to make it simple people call it OverMind. but real name is OverJaeMind.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 07 2011 10:29 GMT
#890
are people forgetting Nestea is ZergBong?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 07 2011 10:30 GMT
#891
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W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
May 07 2011 10:34 GMT
#892
People who refer to ELO also believe Minigun is better than WhiteRa, Cloud better than Mvp, and hasuobs better than MC.
Hi
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
May 07 2011 10:37 GMT
#893
Nestea is without a doubt top.

Second tier is losira, fruitdealer, dimaga, idra, sen. In that order. Fruitdealer doing badly has been staying in code s, although this last season making ro16 and losing 2-1 to nestea is still pretty good.

The only one of those close to nestea imo is losira.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-07 10:44:55
May 07 2011 10:42 GMT
#894
On May 07 2011 19:34 W2 wrote:
People who refer to ELO also believe Minigun is better than WhiteRa, Cloud better than Mvp, and hasuobs better than MC.


Ok you have a point
But still, after waching Nerchio's play and the fashion he is winning with people like MorroW, TT1, Strelok, etc. He is arguably the best zerg on EU and NA.

For me, Dimaga was the raigning champion no longer than a month ago but now, definately Nerchio.
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
May 07 2011 10:42 GMT
#895
Elo international is a bit of a joke atm as some of the people who are near the top just win small tournaments. It's even seen in korea where coda a has many of the highest elo since they have inflated win percentages against worse opponents. I see the korean elo finally balancing out in the next year or so but unless the international one severely restricts tournaments that are used as basis it will still be highly inaccurate.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
May 07 2011 10:45 GMT
#896
On May 07 2011 18:50 5ukkub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 18:41 ch33psh33p wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 07 2011 18:34 Xtal wrote:
The Zerg King is... Nerchio

He's number 1 in SC2 ELO and he's peaking in all 3 match-ups.

How can you argue??

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1771_Nerchio


Sc2 international index. Sorry, Nestea is the undisputed king.


I don't see Nestea in top 50 even so...
or maybe you were talking about the Korean ranking?
Now it comes to if Korean ELO is superior to the international one.

No disrepect to Nerchio or the EU scene but I'm fairly certain Nestea faces harder opponents day in and day out.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 07 2011 10:46 GMT
#897
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5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-07 10:51:50
May 07 2011 10:49 GMT
#898
On May 07 2011 19:46 zeru wrote:
There should be some kind of global BIG tournament ELO, which doesn't count the small stuff, would be much more "accurate".


The problem would be, how to choose wich tournments are "BIG" ?

Maybe based on a prize pool or sth.

It's a slippery subject, because of probbable accusations of disregarding one tournaments and favoring another :/

But yeah... Nerchio
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
Mojar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia185 Posts
May 07 2011 10:51 GMT
#899
nestea -> losira -> fruitdealer/idra -> dimaga
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 07 2011 10:52 GMT
#900
While we're on the topic of the TLPD, was just wondering if the International and Korean TLPDs were merged, would it provide a better comparison or will the International players ELO be inflated because of the amount of games they play?
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