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motoharu
Profile Joined April 2011
Peru18 Posts
July 25 2011 17:34 GMT
#1061
Korean fans why don't forgive Savior?
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
July 25 2011 17:45 GMT
#1062
because he bent brood war over and f'd it in the a

i dont have a problem with him streaming but you can't deny that he did that
I drop suckas like Plinko
Kalent
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada253 Posts
July 26 2011 05:57 GMT
#1063
On July 26 2011 02:34 motoharu wrote:
Korean fans why don't forgive Savior?


Koreans value honor highly.. Savior betrayed his coach, fans, and the game that made him famous and left a permanent, negative mark on it. Forgive? Never. He should just stay away from the BW scene.
Korean-Canadian who spends way too much time on Afreeca
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
July 26 2011 11:40 GMT
#1064
Savior just got nuked 4 times on Fish ladder and gg'd out. There is a restream on Daum Pot Player.
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
July 26 2011 12:08 GMT
#1065
LOL who nuked him?
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
July 26 2011 12:16 GMT
#1066
On July 26 2011 21:08 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
LOL who nuked him?

I didn't see the name. I think it was just someone he found while laddering at 1450 points.

A nuke killed ~ 20 hydras, 10-15 drones, and his already damaged from tanks hatchery along with a couple defilers and he gg'd. The other nukes didn't kill much.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 26 2011 12:18 GMT
#1067
i don't see the issue. let him do what he wants, he has already been punished.

that being said, people who say he should be let back into BW should GTFO. lifetime ban was completely fair and justified imo. but he shouldn't be stigmatised from society on top of it.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 26 2011 12:26 GMT
#1068
On July 26 2011 21:18 Motivate wrote:
i don't see the issue. let him do what he wants, he has already been punished.

that being said, people who say he should be let back into BW should GTFO. lifetime ban was completely fair and justified imo. but he shouldn't be stigmatised from society on top of it.

They should let him in sc2
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
July 26 2011 12:52 GMT
#1069
On July 26 2011 21:26 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 21:18 Motivate wrote:
i don't see the issue. let him do what he wants, he has already been punished.

that being said, people who say he should be let back into BW should GTFO. lifetime ban was completely fair and justified imo. but he shouldn't be stigmatised from society on top of it.

They should let him in sc2


Every BW thread is not complete without any sc2 comments....
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
July 26 2011 12:57 GMT
#1070
On July 26 2011 21:52 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 21:26 101toss wrote:
On July 26 2011 21:18 Motivate wrote:
i don't see the issue. let him do what he wants, he has already been punished.

that being said, people who say he should be let back into BW should GTFO. lifetime ban was completely fair and justified imo. but he shouldn't be stigmatised from society on top of it.

They should let him in sc2


Every BW thread is not complete without any sc2 comments....


And Vice Versa, heh
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
July 26 2011 13:11 GMT
#1071
I wonder how primarily SC2 fans would react if you went to all the threads about good SC2 players and said, "wow he is good. He should play BW. I think he would do well."
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
July 26 2011 15:11 GMT
#1072
I agree with your point, but it's not really valid in this thread since Savior isn't a bw progamer anymore

on second thought, it's sort of valid, since he is streaming BW...
I drop suckas like Plinko
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 26 2011 18:49 GMT
#1073
--- Nuked ---
djbhINDI
Profile Joined June 2011
United States372 Posts
July 26 2011 19:42 GMT
#1074
On July 27 2011 03:49 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 22:11 Romantic wrote:
I wonder how primarily SC2 fans would react if you went to all the threads about good SC2 players and said, "wow he is good. He should play BW. I think he would do well."


nah good @ sc2 =/= good at bw afaik
but good at bw usually means good at sc2

and wow i just watched savior + Show Spoiler +
lose 3:4 to [neox] clan, losing to the same person 3 times. i would never think there could be a non-pro who could 3:1 savior

Well, he's not really at pro level anymore for all we know. I mean, you can't say that the current quality of his play is even close to as good as it was during his reign of terror. On the other hand, who knows if he's playing old pros or smurfs of current pros?
You can't emphasize enough how much you need to be a paradigm shifter. - Savior
Kalent
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada253 Posts
July 27 2011 00:36 GMT
#1075
He's hardly top-pro level anymore. I'd say he's about B-teamer level now.
Korean-Canadian who spends way too much time on Afreeca
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
July 27 2011 00:52 GMT
#1076
This reminds me. Where is part 2 of the savior article? The first was such a good read

On July 26 2011 22:11 Romantic wrote:
I wonder how primarily SC2 fans would react if you went to all the threads about good SC2 players and said, "wow he is good. He should play BW. I think he would do well."

I agree, segregated societies. The broodwar players can drink from THAT water fountain.
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
July 27 2011 01:32 GMT
#1077
btw guys, what does savior do these days?
savior & jaedong
ponies
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia9 Posts
July 27 2011 02:02 GMT
#1078
personally I'm on savior's side and I hope that he could cut a deal with KESPA's competitors to set up a rival organization.I think he should continue streaming to show KEPSA that their propaganda isn't going to stop him and that his streams will eventually get more viewers than KESPA's players
"Quantity is a quality"
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
July 27 2011 02:04 GMT
#1079
Wouldn't surprise me if Savior playing at his top level still lost to randoms. People are just better these days.
The original Bogus fan.
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
July 27 2011 02:10 GMT
#1080
On July 27 2011 03:49 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 22:11 Romantic wrote:
I wonder how primarily SC2 fans would react if you went to all the threads about good SC2 players and said, "wow he is good. He should play BW. I think he would do well."


nah good @ sc2 =/= good at bw afaik
but good at bw usually means good at sc2

and wow i just watched savior + Show Spoiler +
lose 3:4 to [neox] clan, losing to the same person 3 times. i would never think there could be a non-pro who could 3:1 savior


Spoilered response to the above statement. Lets not start this again but I did put my 2 cents on your quote. You can read it if you want.

+ Show Spoiler +
No... this is wrong. Being good at BW =/= good at SC2.

People get this wrong every time. What makes people good at SC2 is not because the played BW, it was because of the training time/devotion to the game.

That's like saying if you're great in College at a sport you should automatically be good when you go pro. And that is wrong... and you can vice versa that. If you're good in the pros, that does not mean you were great in college.


Now, For the purpose of this thread, I think Savior should not be competitive again at all. Gambling on your sport is basically the nail in your coffin no matter what. It's been 20+ years for Pete Rose in Baseball and still nothing for him.
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
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